2022 Eagles Thread

Moogy

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Are you drunk or high?
Btw did you notice the block in the back by the Chiefs on the punt return? It’s there go watch. Replay on the NFL network
I bet if I watch it, there will be all sorts of bad stuff the Chiefs did, and the calls weren't made, and no bad stuff done by the Eagles that they got away with because they did nothing wrong at all, and were, in fact, unjustly called for stuff they never did, and all the potentially questionable calls that went in the Eagles' favor weren't potentially questionable at all ... they were clear as day correctly ruled in the Eagles' favor, amirite? It's shocking that the fix was in. Who do you think arranged it? Goodell? The Illuminati?

So I'm watching that play right now ... where was the block in the back? I see 6 Eagles there for the kill, with NO ONE blocking them, and they all just whiff or stop and stare, rather than tackling ... Toney changes direction and I still don't see anything ... closest I can see is 23 blocking 45 (legally), and, while still engaged, 45 tries a spin move off 23, who "blocks in the back" for a bit (not a penalty because of what I already described), but 45 is already a non-factor, regardless, as Toney is already on the other side of the field and past them both ... then there's a ton of chaos with Toney rumbling down the sidelines, but not a single questionable block that I can see. Help me out.

 

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I bet if I watch it, there will be all sorts of bad stuff the Chiefs did, and the calls weren't made, and no bad stuff done by the Eagles that they got away with because they did nothing wrong at all, and were, in fact, unjustly called for stuff they never did, and all the potentially questionable calls that went in the Eagles' favor weren't potentially questionable at all ... they were clear as day correctly ruled in the Eagles' favor, amirite? It's shocking that the fix was in. Who do you think arranged it? Goodell? The Illuminati?

So I'm watching that play right now ... where was the block in the back? I see 6 Eagles there for the kill, with NO ONE blocking them, and they all just whiff or stop and stare, rather than tackling ... Toney changes direction and I still don't see anything ... closest I can see is 23 blocking 45 (legally), and, while still engaged, 45 tries a spin move off 23, who "blocks in the back" for a bit (not a penalty because of what I already described), but 45 is already a non-factor, regardless, as Toney is already on the other side of the field and past them both ... then there's a ton of chaos with Toney rumbling down the sidelines, but not a single questionable block that I can see. Help me out.

Watch it again it’s on the camera right sideline
 

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Watch it again it’s on the camera right sideline
I don't know what "camera right sideline" is, but I've watched it over 10 times, each time following a different Chiefs blocker, and I've seen nothing even close to questionable. The only one I could even slightly imagine you taking issue with is the one I already mentioned, where the Chiefs player engages the Eagles dude legally, and the Eagles dude tries a spin move to get away, but the Chiefs player stays on him. Legal, but the only time any Chief is making contact with the back of an Eagles player.
 

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I don't know what "camera right sideline" is, but I've watched it over 10 times, each time following a different Chiefs blocker, and I've seen nothing even close to questionable. The only one I could even slightly imagine you taking issue with is the one I already mentioned, where the Chiefs player engages the Eagles dude legally, and the Eagles dude tries a spin move to get away, but the Chiefs player stays on him. Legal, but the only time any Chief is making contact with the back of an Eagles player.
watch i again, its there, its on the sideline 85 on 28, block in the back illegal use of hands
 

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watch i again, its there, its on the sideline 85 on 28, block in the back illegal use of hands

LOL. No friggin way. 85 on the Chiefs first makes contact with 28 at the 38 yard line with a clearly legal block, and 28 goes stumbling to the ground over the course of a few yards. 28 was running diagonally toward the sideline, with his body turned back toward the runner, 85 came barreling down and, from 28's side, got his helmet out in front of 28 and pushed him mainly with his right hand on the front of 28s jersey, thereby engaging him in front of 28s shoulder ... and down goes 28. Completely, inarguably a clean block. That's not even in the questionable bucket. I have no idea why you'd have chosen that one, when there are probably 25 "somewhat questionable" penalties that go uncalled in any one game. If this is all you could dig up, it must have been a phenomenally well called game.
 

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LOL. No friggin way. 85 on the Chiefs first makes contact with 28 at the 38 yard line with a clearly legal block, and 28 goes stumbling to the ground over the course of a few yards. 28 was running diagonally toward the sideline, with his body turned back toward the runner, 85 came barreling down and, from 28's side, got his helmet out in front of 28 and pushed him mainly with his right hand on the front of 28s jersey, thereby engaging him in front of 28s shoulder ... and down goes 28. Completely, inarguably a clean block. That's not even in the questionable bucket. I have no idea why you'd have chosen that one, when there are probably 25 "somewhat questionable" penalties that go uncalled in any one game. If this is all you could dig up, it must have been a phenomenally well called game.
85 is behind 28, you just said that, unless he can get in front of 28, he cant hit the guy. Block in the back should have been called, 28 would have made the tackle if he wasnt illegally contacted. My God you sound like Buschwood sometimes.
 

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85 is behind 28, you just said that, unless he can get in front of 28, he cant hit the guy. Block in the back should have been called, 28 would have made the tackle if he wasnt illegally contacted. My God you sound like Buschwood sometimes.
In fact, I did NOT say 85 is behind 28. I said he came at 28 from 28's SIDE. The back and the side are different. He, in fact, CAN hit the guy when his helmet and his arm are IN FRONT of the guy he's hitting ... which is what happened. 28s back wasn't turned. Again, not even close to questionable. It's not a block in the back.

here’s what not blocking in the back looks like …
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Unless 85 is an actual wizard, and can defy the laws of physics, thereby hitting someone from the back, yet stopping their forward progress and sending them sideways/backward, while simultaneously casting an illusion that makes it appear he’s hitting the guy from the side/front ... there is nothing to see here. Do you have any proof of 85's wizardry?
 
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In fact, I did NOT say 85 is behind 28. I said he came at 28 from 28's SIDE. The back and the side are different. He, in fact, CAN hit the guy when his helmet and his arm are IN FRONT of the guy he's hitting ... which is what happened. 28s back wasn't turned. Again, not even close to questionable. It's not a block in the back.

here’s what not blocking in the back looks like …
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Unless 85 is an actual wizard, and can defy the laws of physics, thereby hitting someone from the back, yet stopping their forward progress and sending them sideways/backward, while simultaneously casting an illusion that makes it appear he’s hitting the guy from the side/front ... there is nothing to see here. Do you have any proof of 85's wizardry?
Bushwood your last clip is a clear block in the back (side is the same as the back) so I am out
 

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Bushwood your last clip is a clear block in the back (side is the same as the back) so I am out
I don't know what "Bushwood" is supposed to reference, but now you're not only wrong about this play, but you don't know the actual rule:


Please note below the 3rd point, where it clearly says that, if both hands are on the opponent's SIDE, it is NOT a foul. This, of course, means that "side is the same as the back" is false, by explicit rule. If you want to fight this further, you will have to contact the NFL directly and tell them that their rule is wrong, and they should have called the play, not by their own actual rule, but by a rule that you invented.

"ILLEGAL BLOCK ABOVE THE WAIST

Blocks an opponent (from behind) in the back above the opponent’s waist, or uses his hands or arms to push an opponent from behind in a manner that affects his movement, except in close-line play.

Note: The prohibition applies to a player of the kicking team while the ball is in flight during a scrimmage kick.

The use of hands on the back is not a foul when:


  1. a player is making a personal attempt to recover a loose ball
  2. the opponent turns away from the blocker when contact is imminent
  3. both of the blocker’s hands are on the opponent’s side. (If either hand is on the back, it is a foul.)
Penalty: For an illegal block in the back above the waist by the offense: Loss of 10 yards."

 
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After the poor defensive performance in the Super Bowl, I’m surprised Gannon got an offer. Or perhaps the deal was done and his mind was already on the new job during the big game.
 
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After the poor defensive performance in the Super Bowl, I’m surprised Gannon got an offer. Or perhaps the deal was done and his mind was already on the new job during the big game.
Otoh D only gave up 24 points. Fumble return I put on the O, and the other 7 came from the punt return, imo
 

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Zero sacks.
One tackle for loss.
Chiefs scored on every possession in second half.
Extremely poor defensive scheme. Zero pressure.
 
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Interesting take from Roob on Miles:

"You never want to put too much weight on the way a season ends when you’re making decisions about a player’s future, but I do believe Miles Sanders’ lack of consistency late in the season might cost him a new contract with the Eagles. Sanders ran for 1,200 yards, a 4.9 average and 11 touchdowns during the regular season and made his first Pro Bowl. A monster season.

But he was a non-factor Sunday with 16 yards on seven carries, a 2.3 average. He’s only the fourth running back ever to gain 1,000 yards during the regular season and average 2.3 or worse in a Super Bowl — the first in more than 20 years. Sanders was also 7 for 16 against the Buccaneers last year."
 
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