2022 Phillies Thread

[MrTailgate]

The Phillies took prep CF Justin Crawford at pick #17 overall. Justin is Carl Crawford’s son and JP Crawford’s (remember him?) cousin.

Any thoughts on the pick? CF is a big area of need as is just about any high-end OF or middle infield prospect.

Phillies select CF Crawford

Interesting pick given that they have Johan Rojas currently in CF at Reading. Similar to Rojas in that both start with speed as their best plus skill set. Rojas currently has 43 stolen bases in 44 attempts. Both Rojas and Crawford use their speed to advantage defensively and both have work to do from a power perspective. Rojas has had comparisons to Acuna Jr. so my guess is his power is more seen as potentially developing as opposed to Crawford.

Crawford has a lot of upside but it’s an interesting pick and hopefully says more about the potential of Crawford than the concerns about Rojas. Maybe the Phillies just couldn’t let the opportunity to let his talents pass at the pick. Having two CF prospects with good toolkits is never a bad thing.

 

[WestSideLion]

Interesting pick given that they have Johan Rojas currently in CF at Reading. Similar to Rojas in that both start with speed as their best plus skill set. Rojas currently has 43 stolen bases in 44 attempts. Both Rojas and Crawford use their speed to advantage defensively and both have work to do from a power perspective. Rojas has had comparisons to Acuna Jr. so my guess is his power is more seen as potentially developing as opposed to Crawford.

Crawford has a lot of upside but it’s an interesting pick and hopefully says more about the potential of Crawford than the concerns about Rojas. Maybe the Phillies just couldn’t let the opportunity to let his talents pass at the pick. Having two CF prospects with good toolkits is never a bad thing.

Just a hunch, but given the poor historical hit rate in the MLB draft (compared to other sports), they likely went with the best available guy on their board.

If Rojas has power upside, then perhaps he can move to a corner outfield position down the road too.

 

[rudedude]

Schwarber’s Home Run Derby spikes!

 

[rudedude]

Shoes didn’t help Schwarber falls to Pujols 20-19

 

[Relayer]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Additional picks by the Phils in the MLB draft:

R2: they didn't have a pick due to signing FA Nick Castellanos
R3: Gabriel Rincones, Jr (OF, Florida Atlantic)
R4: Alexander McFarlane (RHP, University of Miami)
R5: Orion Kerkering (RHP, USF)
R6: Mavis Graves (LHP, Eastside HS (South Carolina))
R7: Caleb Ricketts (C, University of San Diego)
R8: Alex Rao (RHP, Notre Dame)
R9: Chad Castillo (OF, California Baptist University)
R10: Gustavo Sosa (C, South Montain CC)

 

[GregPickel]

 

[nittanyfan333]

Interesting pick given that they have Johan Rojas currently in CF at Reading. Similar to Rojas in that both start with speed as their best plus skill set. Rojas currently has 43 stolen bases in 44 attempts. Both Rojas and Crawford use their speed to advantage defensively and both have work to do from a power perspective. Rojas has had comparisons to Acuna Jr. so my guess is his power is more seen as potentially developing as opposed to Crawford.

Crawford has a lot of upside but it’s an interesting pick and hopefully says more about the potential of Crawford than the concerns about Rojas. Maybe the Phillies just couldn’t let the opportunity to let his talents pass at the pick. Having two CF prospects with good toolkits is never a bad thing.

Was just reading an article on the Orioles and how Elias drafted Holliday (SS) this year, while one of the top prospects in the farms (Gunnar Henderson) is also a SS. His response i think makes sense here, as he referred to drafting Alex Bregman in 2015 at SS the year Carlos Correa became the every-day SS. Solution: they moved Bregman to 3B. I can see that with Crawford and Rojas. One of them can move to LF

 

[MrTailgate]

Was just reading an article on the Orioles and how Elias drafted Holliday (SS) this year, while one of the top prospects in the farms (Gunnar Henderson) is also a SS. His response i think makes sense here, as he referred to drafting Alex Bregman in 2015 at SS the year Carlos Correa became the every-day SS. Solution: they moved Bregman to 3B. I can see that with Crawford and Rojas. One of them can move to LF

For sure. It’s never a problem to have options. I’d say that SS and 3B is a little different because a lot of guys grow out of the SS position. A Rod was probably going to move with or without Jeter being anchored at SS. You can get into a lot of arguments with Yankee fans when you bring up that Jeter was a liability at short later on in his career. Realistically, Jeter should have moved positions as well. Ripken was the same. So, they might have thought that Bergman was a better 3b fit at some point down the road. I think this stuff tends to always work itself out. I watched Rojas a bit in camp this year on the practice fields. He can go get it. Crawford will have to be good to move him out of CF but if he does that’s not a bad thing.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Day 3 of the MLB draft, and the Phils picked:

R11: Emaarion Boyd (OF, South Panola HS, MS)
R12: Jordan Disson (C, Saddleback College)
R13: Cade Fergus (CF, George Washington Univ.)
R14: Bryan Rincon (SS, Shaler Area HS, PA)
R15: Troy Schreffler (OF, Univ. of Maryland)
R16: Josh Bortka (RHP, Univ. of Central Missouri)
R17: Daniel Harper (RHP, Univ. of Kentucky)
R18: Braylen Wimmer (2B, Univ. of South Carolina)
R19: Drew Garrett (RHP, Univ. of Missouri)
R20: Nathan Karaffa (RHP, Ohio State)

Boyd (R11) has committed to Northwest Community College. The reviews on him are pretty positive.

Dissin (R12) is a 2nd year JUCO. He transferred from Richmond after the 2021 season, and committed to UC-San Diego.

Fergus (R13) is a 4th year senior, who played in the Cape Cod League last summer.

Rincon (R14) is the other high school kid in the day 3 picks. He's a Venezuelan native.

Schreffler (R15) mostly played RF in college, but played a bit in CF this past season. He was 3rd team All B1G this season, and made the 2022 Big Ten All-Tournament Team.

Bortka (R16) has been a reliever in college. I believe he played in the MLB Draft League for the State College Spikes.

Harper (R17) is another reliever who also played in the MLB Draft League for the State College Spikes.

Wimmer (R18) played most of the time at 2B, but had a few games at SS. He played in the Cape Cod League last summer

Garrett (R19) is an interesting selection. He only pitched 4.2 innings in 2022. He played in the MLB Draft League last summer, and was used mostly as a reliever, and averaged over 1 walk per inning

Karaffa (R20) is another interesting selection. Prior to the 2022 season, he played INF and OF. He was used as a reliever this season, and while his ERA was high, he averaged over 1 K per inning.

 

[nittanyfan333]

For sure. It’s never a problem to have options. I’d say that SS and 3B is a little different because a lot of guys grow out of the SS position. A Rod was probably going to move with or without Jeter being anchored at SS. You can get into a lot of arguments with Yankee fans when you bring up that Jeter was a liability at short later on in his career. Realistically, Jeter should have moved positions as well. Ripken was the same. So, they might have thought that Bergman was a better 3b fit at some point down the road. I think this stuff tends to always work itself out. I watched Rojas a bit in camp this year on the practice fields. He can go get it. Crawford will have to be good to move him out of CF but if he does that’s not a bad thing.

Yeah for sure, I think it all boils down to talent. If the kid is talented, FIND a spot for him.

 

[MrTailgate]

Yeah for sure, I think it all boils down to talent. If the kid is talented, FIND a spot for him.

This is where I show my age. For so long, you had your arm in RF, your athlete in CF,and you hid your problem in LF. That’s a sweeping generalization I know. I show my age more by liking the notion of guys playing one position as well. It drove me crazy and I will forever say the Phillies contributed to the downfall of Kingery by moving him so much. I’ve seen Rojas a smidgen and he looks like a fit in CF. I will have to wait to see Crawford and see if either of these guys can naturally move to a corner spot and not be diminished and not wasting the skillsets that seem to make both a CF fit.

It made me think of something that always seemed strange to me. If you’re ancient like me, you remember how great Curt Flood was in CF. I always thought that Brock had to be the guy given his speed. But Flood was as good a CF’er I saw behind Mays who was the best I ever saw. You weren’t ever going to move Flood. I don’t recall Brock being a bad OF’er but maybe my memory is bad. I always assumed though that Brock should have been the natural fit in CF mostly based on his speed.

Hopefully, the Phillies have two guys who can play and be contributors down the road wherever they get slotted in.

 

[JoePano19]

If either of these guys can hit the Phillies will find a spot for them . With CF being such a problem area over the last few years , Rojas and Crawford are a good problem to have .

 

[Colt2169]

If either of these guys can hit the Phillies will find a spot for them . With CF being such a problem area over the last few years , Rojas and Crawford are a good problem to have .

Agree it’s all about the hitting now

 

[JoePano19]

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[MrTailgate]

If either of these guys can hit the Phillies will find a spot for them . With CF being such a problem area over the last few years , Rojas and Crawford are a good problem to have .

They have been horrible out there and have struck out repeatedly. I feel bad since there wasn’t a consensus guy at the top of the draft when they had the #1 pick with Moniak. Buzzards Luck not to have a consensus stud at the pick. I had a ton of arguments with many over Haseley. I never liked him and always thought he should have been a pitcher versus a position player. Herrera is a nut job. He is lucky they have nothing else, he should have been gone a long time ago. Kingery was a mistake trying to jam him into CF. Hopefully, they have an answer that develops down the farm. A lot of people will tell you that you don’t win without being solid up the middle.

1980- Boone, Trillo, Bowa, Maddox
2008 - Chooch, Chase, Jimmy, Victorino

The Pope was huge on strength up the middle.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Phillies looking good to make playoffs, per simulation

Plenty of the season left to play, but one computer model has the Phillies on track for playoff baseball.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Tom McAndrew]

10 storylines for the Phillies when the season resumes

Before the first pitch this coming Friday of a six-game homestand against the Cubs and then the Braves, here's a look at 10 of the most interesting ones:

www.phillyvoice.com

 

[PSU Chicago]

........ I will forever say the Phillies contributed to the downfall of Kingery by moving him so much .....

Can Scotty Jet Packs get back in the bigs? Had such high hopes for him.

In the MLB draft you always have to go with the best player. So few of those guys make it. If you have 2 players at CF that are MLB quality, you trade one to fill the hole in your own system.

 

[GregPickel]

 

[GregPickel]

This is where I show my age. For so long, you had your arm in RF, your athlete in CF,and you hid your problem in LF. That’s a sweeping generalization I know. I show my age more by liking the notion of guys playing one position as well. It drove me crazy and I will forever say the Phillies contributed to the downfall of Kingery by moving him so much. I’ve seen Rojas a smidgen and he looks like a fit in CF. I will have to wait to see Crawford and see if either of these guys can naturally move to a corner spot and not be diminished and not wasting the skillsets that seem to make both a CF fit.

It made me think of something that always seemed strange to me. If you’re ancient like me, you remember how great Curt Flood was in CF. I always thought that Brock had to be the guy given his speed. But Flood was as good a CF’er I saw behind Mays who was the best I ever saw. You weren’t ever going to move Flood. I don’t recall Brock being a bad OF’er but maybe my memory is bad. I always assumed though that Brock should have been the natural fit in CF mostly based on his speed.

Hopefully, the Phillies have two guys who can play and be contributors down the road wherever they get slotted in.

One hundred percent agree! It was so frustrating to watch.

 

[Relayer]

Apple TV for the game tonight? How many bars will have that on this evening?

 

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schwarber first pitch dinger

 

[Rick76]

Apple TV for the game tonight? How many bars will have that on this evening?

I turned the sound off and listen to Scott and LA.

 

[rudedude]

Glad to see the Phillies worked on fielding and defense on the All Star break.

 

[Relayer]

Disaster! Any reason Gibson started tonight when your two studs had the week off?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[WestSideLion]

Hmmm…London is quite a change from sunny SoCal.

 

[rudedude]

 

[Relayer]

What an ugly 10th inning for the Phils. Alvarado, Bohm...etc...This team sorely misses Segura and Harper in the lineup, and it's starting to show.

 

[Liontown]

Pete Rose to appear on Philadelphia Phillies' field with 1980 World Series title team​

Pete Rose to appear on Philadelphia Phillies' field with 1980 World Series title team (espn.com)

 

[rudedude]

 

[MrTailgate]

I am sure they will talk today. Jimmy is about as professional as you can get and isn’t that guy to provoke these kinds of exchanges. He’s never been a guy to be part of a story. Nick is a tough guy and should count his blessings. Many Philly print media past and present would have made this a lot more difficult for Nick. I would think this was frustration boiling over for Nick and that they will clean this up today.

 

[Rick76]

This just in: Phillies games broadcasts on Peacock are atrocious. That is all.

 

[rudedude]

This just in: Phillies games broadcasts on Peacock are atrocious. That is all.

Atrocious also describes the Phillies play. They are sleepwalking in this series. Time to jettison some roster dead weight: Herrera, Bohm, Castellanos, Familia, Falter, Gregorious, etc etc etc

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[rudedude]

 

[Rick76]

Watching the Phillies tonight - - and a Little League game broke out.