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LionJim said:
Long analysis on the Eagles O.

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What happened to the Eagles' offense? Start with Jalen Hurts and what defensive coordinators figured out about his game

When I watch this Eagles offense, the lack of answers against the blitz is what I think has to be sorted out this offseason. By both the play designers and the quarterback.
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I said in another tread, at OTA's this spring, if they dont spend 1/2 hr a day on how to handle the blitz, then they should be fired.
 
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I said in another tread, at OTA's this spring, if they dont spend 1/2 hr a day on how to handle the blitz, then they should be fired.
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Running 4 verticals on 3rd and 2 is just dumb, is it the play called by OC, the adjustment QB makes at LOS, or WRs getting confused on the routes? Either way, WRs should now the game situation at this level, I need 2 yds so someone should make a cut at 3 yards and get open. That's just football knowledge unless they are thinking they can out smart everyone at that level, which just seems dumb
 
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Running 4 verticals on 3rd and 2 is just dumb, is it the play called by OC, the adjustment QB makes at LOS, or WRs getting confused on the routes? Either way, WRs should now the game situation at this level, I need 2 yds so someone should make a cut at 3 yards and get open. That's just football knowledge unless they are thinking they can out smart everyone at that level, which just seems dumb
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Football is a complimentary sport. Eagles have an old and slow D on the back end. Constant 3-5 and outs took its toll. Save for the away cowboys game, every game that the eagles lost in the last 7 were very close games at half. Then the D fell apart. Just looks so much like the D got gassed, which was exacerbated by the O not going on prolonged drives. And the O didn't go on prolonged drives because Brian Johnson is a terrible play caller. Desai's D was NOT bad (not like the last 4 games bad) throughout the year. beat KC at KC and held the Dolphins to 17. the losses to the 9ers and cowboys at jerrahworld while were bad looking at the final score, weren't bad losses in general. I really think you prolong some drives, things are much different.

that video breakdown that Orlovsky did that shows a 0 blitz and the middle of the field wide open with 4 (essentially) streak routes is just sickening.... stuff of nightmares.....

 
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Football is a complimentary sport. Eagles have an old and slow D on the back end. Constant 3-5 and outs took its toll. Save for the away cowboys game, every game that the eagles lost in the last 7 were very close games at half. Then the D fell apart. Just looks so much like the D got gassed, which was exacerbated by the O not going on prolonged drives. And the O didn't go on prolonged drives because Brian Johnson is a terrible play caller. Desai's D was NOT bad (not like the last 4 games bad) throughout the year. beat KC at KC and held the Dolphins to 17. the losses to the 9ers and cowboys at jerrahworld while were bad looking at the final score, weren't bad losses in general. I really think you prolong some drives, things are much different.

that video breakdown that Orlovsky did that shows a 0 blitz and the middle of the field wide open with 4 (essentially) streak routes is just sickening.... stuff of nightmares.....

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Yeah, the D getting gassed was a major problem with all the offenses of the 90s that went 3 and out as well.
 
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Not so fast my friend. According to Fat Charlie of NFL radio he still has to present his plan to Jeffrey on how to fix things, and Jeffrey has to approve. Iiirc this is what lead to Doug downfall
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Nothing against Weis, but why would Howie be working coordinator circles in person if he wasn’t bought in on keeping Nick?
 
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Nothing against Weis, but why would Howie be working coordinator circles in person if he wasn’t bought in on keeping Nick?
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Good question but with that bunch and how it went down with Doug who knows. I have read though Nick hasn’t met w JL
 
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Yeah, patricia was the obvious next to go. I don't understand why Brian Johnson is getting HC interviews. I get the Rooney thing, but after that offensive collapse?
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I hope that doesn’t stop the Eagles from interviewing new OCs. Can’t sit back and let all the top candidates get hired.
 
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I hope that doesn’t stop the Eagles from interviewing new OCs. Can’t sit back and let all the top candidates get hired.
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Iirc they are trying to get Jim Bob Cooter back. But he has a contract w the Colts. He’s OC there but does not call their plays. I’d take him
 
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Grant Green said:
Yeah, patricia was the obvious next to go. I don't understand why Brian Johnson is getting HC interviews. I get the Rooney thing, but after that offensive collapse?
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I figure in. Yr or 2 he’ll have a lot to say about his time in Philly. Might be interesting
 
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BJ is out. It’s good they acted reasonably fast. Grab your popcorn for the replacement search.

DC candidates indicate the search for a “bad cop” tough guy to complement Nick’s rah-rah style. They could go in many directions on offense.
 
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Kotelnicki and Allen to the Iggles. Patricia, Desai, and Johnson to PSU.
 
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www.espn.com

Sources: Johnson latest Eagles assistant ousted

Brian Johnson is out as the Eagles' offensive coordinator, sources confirmed to ESPN, becoming the latest assistant ousted from Nick Sirianni's coaching staff.
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“Sirianni's job status has been a source of speculation following Philadelphia's 1-6 finish to the season. He'll have to rebuild key parts of his staff, and sources told ESPN on Monday that former Commanders coach Ron Rivera is interviewing for the vacant defensive coordinator post.”

EDIT: I just saw sluggo’s post above.
 
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WestSideLion said:
BJ is out. It’s good they acted reasonably fast. Grab your popcorn for the replacement search.

DC candidates indicate the search for a “bad cop” tough guy to complement Nick’s rah-rah style. They could go in many directions on offense.
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Met Riverboat Ron a few years ago. Super down to earth and surprisingly calm dude. Roob said the other day on the eagle eye podcast they're looking for experienced OC/DCs that can operate independently. I think they realized that with Steichen and Gannon, Sirianni could just let them handle their respective sides, but with Desai and Johnson, Nick had to be a lot more involved. Hence why they brought Patricia in as an experienced DC to help Desai if needed.

On D, I'd like to see Rivera. Even heard Leslie Frasier is looking to possibly come back. Wouldnt' mind him either.
 
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ok, I've taken enough time off from the Birds. I needed to step back and take a bit of a break after the playoff loss. The break did me well.

I don't think this will be good news to the "run the ball" crowd. :(

 
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s1uggo72 said:
Sounds like a Howie interview!!
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I am quite familiar with Kingsbury during his time at Texas Tech. He ran an air raid siren spread offense throw happy concepts. Very much a boom or bust effort. His big issue was when he needed run production . As the Eagles showed in our most current Super Bowl year the Eagles success was a result of a good mix of a dominate run game and efficient pass concepts. I would be concerned with his ability to develop a solid run game. I would pass on him. Too boom or bust for my taste.
 
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I am quite familiar with Kingsbury during his time at Texas Tech. He ran an air raid siren spread offense throw happy concepts. Very much a boom or bust effort. His big issue was when he needed run production . As the Eagles showed in our most current Super Bowl year the Eagles success was a result of a good mix of a dominate run game and efficient pass concepts. I would be concerned with his ability to develop a solid run game. I would pass on him. Too boom or bust for my taste.
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Visions of Chip Kelly's red zone O in those back to back losses against SF and Arizona in 2014.
 
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Not much new in this - just a report on the "reports." It does give more background on Vince.

 
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