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I agree with this. Cardoso need to improve her post move. When she get the ball on the post she need to keep dribbling the ball to the basket.
No, you don't want a 6'7" female dribbling. This is not the NBA with Chet Holmgren or Wemby dribbling the ball from the 3 point line as 7 footers. Also, Cardoso is at least 2 inches (I say 3) bigger and a good 20-30 lbs. heavier than Boston. Cardoso is not a perfect product. She does need to work on a go-to post move, but she is probably the 3rd best big in the country. I would only put Brink and the girl from Virginia Tech above her. This talk of anyone with size getting 15 points in a college game is non-sense. Most D-1 programs have a big close to Cardoso's size and they are not doing it.
 

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No, you don't want a 6'7" female dribbling. This is not the NBA with Chet Holmgren or Wemby dribbling the ball from the 3 point line as 7 footers. Also, Cardoso is at least 2 inches (I say 3) bigger and a good 20-30 lbs. heavier than Boston. Cardoso is not a perfect product. She does need to work on a go-to post move, but she is probably the 3rd best big in the country. I would only put Brink and the girl from Virginia Tech above her. This talk of anyone with size getting 15 points in a college game is non-sense. Most D-1 programs have a big close to Cardoso's size and they are not doing it.
Brink is a center in college but will be a stretch 4 in the WNBA, Kitley has more range than Cardoso but she is marshmallow soft. Ayoka Lee has Cardoso’s size and a more polished down low offensive game, but cannot run the floor, does not rebound or play D nearly as well. Lauren Betts at UCLA is probably the only center in college that can match Cardoso and I might consider in a straight up swap.


Kennedy Brown, the Duke center is considered one of the top 15 centers in the country. Again her line against Cardoso was 1 rebound ZERO points and 5 fouls.

Is Cardoso a Boston? Of course not! Interestingly enough, her points, rebounds and blocks per 40 minutes always exceeded Boston’s
 
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I don't get the contextless criticism of Cardoso! Is she perfect? No - she has a lot of room to improve. But that is the scary part! She is playing really well as it is and I am extremely thankful she is a Gamecock. I know exactly where I was, when she committed to transfer to us and how excited I was about it. Today I am even more happy about her play and look forward to see her develop further in the years to come

Lauren Betts at UCLA is probably the only center in college that can match Cardoso and I might consider in a straight up swap.

How did she not work out at Stanford?
 
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Brink is a center in college but will be a stretch 4 in the WNBA, Kitley has more range than Cardoso but she is marshmallow soft. Ayoka Lee has Cardoso’s size and a more polished down low offensive game, but cannot run the floor, does not rebound or play D nearly as well. Lauren Betts at UCLA is probably the only center in college that can match Cardoso and I might consider in a straight up swap.


Kennedy Brown, the Duke center is considered one of the top 15 centers in the country. Again her line against Cardoso was 1 rebound ZERO points and 5 fouls.

Is Cardoso a Boston? Of course not! Interestingly enough, her points, rebounds and blocks per 40 minutes always exceeded Boston’s
And let me say this for all those that find faults with parts of Cardoso's game, though she and every other big has some deficiency, She has outplayed an neutralized bigs her size in most head to head matchups. Someone mentioned Betts being the closest to Cardorso's flexibility, I give you this reminder that Cardorzo beat Betts twice this summer in head to head matchups in the USA Americup Tournament and rendered Betts and the other American Bigs helpless in the regular pool game and the Gold Medal Matchup. Cardoso ended up being chosen the MVP of that tourney. Sometimes we need to understand what we have in her.
 

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I know it may be a surprise to some but Cardoso is far from the only D1 player that is 6'6 or bigger playing college basketball. Many on which play limited minutes and are not productive to their teams. Virginia has one who hasn't done much and Utah also has one hasn't been impactful either. The critics don't realize how lucky we are to have someone like Cardoso.

Despite the lapses in her game Kamilla is still averaging 15pts, 12rbds, 2 ast, .7stls and 3.4 blks on 61% shooting in on 27.1 minutes . Kamilla is putting up All American type numbers against ranked teams and the scary part is that she's still figuring out how to play as a starter and as the #1 option on the scouting report. Once she figures that out, the potential could be endless.
 

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I don't get the contextless criticism of Cardoso! Is she perfect? No - she has a lot of room to improve. But that is the scary part! She is playing really well as it is and I am extremely thankful she is a Gamecock. I know exactly where I was, when she committed to transfer to us and how excited I was about it. Today I am even more happy about her play and look forward to see her develop further in the years to come



How did she not work out at Stanford?
That is a damn good question!!! For some very strange reason VanDever just didn’t play her very much at all. She has had very erratic substitution patterns over the last three years(this year included)

It led to 3 players transferring out after last season, that never happens at Stanford. Iriafen would play 3 great games in row last year and then not even get in the game the next two. It felt weird and capricious. Dawn sits you and you know why and she explains it to the press in very clear but kind terms.
 
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And let me say this for all those that find faults with parts of Cardoso's game, though she and every other big has some deficiency, She has outplayed an neutralized bigs her size in most head to head matchups. Someone mentioned Betts being the closest to Cardorso's flexibility, I give you this reminder that Cardorzo beat Betts twice this summer in head to head matchups in the USA Americup Tournament and rendered Betts and the other American Bigs helpless in the regular pool game and the Gold Medal Matchup. Cardoso ended up being chosen the MVP of that tourney. Sometimes we need to understand what we have in her.
Betts held her own offensively in the championship game but Kamilla controlled the paint and the boards. As a future note Angel Reese started the championship game at center and Kamilla just owned and humiliated her. It’s why they brought Betts in.
 

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I don't think Tara had much trust in her roster outside of the starters last season. 4 players average 24+ minutes a game and everyone else averaged 13 minutes or less. Players such as Betts, Belibi and Prechtel averaged 10 or less minutes.

I believe Tara underestimated the power of the transfer portal. This season there are 7 players with at least 15+ minutes and only 2 players average less than 10 minutes.
 

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I know it may be a surprise to some but Cardoso is far from the only D1 player that is 6'6 or bigger playing college basketball. Many on which play limited minutes and are not productive to their teams. Virginia has one who hasn't done much and Utah also has one hasn't been impactful either. The critics don't realize how lucky we are to have someone like Cardoso.

Despite the lapses in her game Kamilla is still averaging 15pts, 12rbds, 2 ast, .7stls and 3.4 blks on 61% shooting in on 27.1 minutes . Kamilla is putting up All American type numbers against ranked teams and the scary part is that she's still figuring out how to play as a starter and as the #1 option on the scouting report. Once she figures that out, the potential could be endless.

Utah has a player who is 6' 8". She's played 9 minutes and scored 3 points so far this season.

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Here's my assessment -- which means absolutely nothing except I get to hear myself type --

Cardoso is actually as good as you guys say
Kitts continues to hit the 12-15 footer, plays in the flow of the offense, and hustles like heck
Swatkins does her thing rebounding, blocking shots, and adding a some scoring
Three-Hina continues to shoot about 50% from three
Hall is becoming the glue we hoped for, plays D and keeps the D honest knocking down 2-3 3's a game
Raven continues to value possessions, distributes at a high assist level, and contributes some on offense.
That is a really good TEAM. A TEAM that meshes well. Not a bunch of stars seeking personal glory.

Add in Fulwiley learning the college game and seems about ready to explode, T. Johnson getting back on track after the ankle sprain, and some level of contribution from Walker, Jah, and Feagin.

Nice TEAM. Actually, a little better than nice! ;)
 

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Dealing with young athletes' egos this day and time is like walking through a minefield, however you depict it. The portal exacerbates the peril.
 
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Rebounders not establishing position/out of position had a lot to do with it. Looked a little sluggish after the layoff.
We shoot way more 3s, and play with 3 guards. We’re going to get less rebounds. Not forcing the ball down low to Boston, Saxton, and Beal. Not expecting the same rebound numbers this year
 
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We shoot way more 3s, and play with 3 guards. We’re going to get less rebounds. Not forcing the ball down low to Boston, Saxton, and Beal. Not expecting the same rebound numbers this year
Well, it's complicated. We may actually have more rebounds this season. We lead the nation in rebounds at 53 per game ( against the 2nd toughest schedule so far, btw). Last year we averaged 49. But we are playing at a much faster pace, so there are more rebound opportunities.

Outside of the UNC game, I've been pleased with the rebounding. I agree, though, we won't be as dominate on the boards as last year.
 

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Damn you🤣🤣 I just posted it TIF and was going to post it here. I just love Staley! Talked Sportsmanship, sacrifice, and defense. I loved how she told the story of Tara and the Olympic team. She is only asking of her players what she had to do to become great


here is the full interview



The best thing about Sunday’s game was how Pao Pao willingly accepted the role of letting Dawn put MF in the end of game fire to learn. Pao Pao was playing well…but she gets the team winning aspect more. Best pickup by any team from the portal.
 

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Let's talk about the Cardoso effect because the numbers don't tell the complete story. As Debbie Antonelli pointed out on the broadcast Sunday, Duke was deliberately avoiding challenging Cardoso inside. We only finished with 3 blocks in that game, 2 from Fulwiley on perimeter players. Duke settled for perimeter shots and pull-up jumpers and rarely if ever posted up. So all the whining on social media about the free throw disparity was completely unjustified (ACC fans did a lot of whining last weekend).

On the other end of the court, did you notice that UNC and Duke didn't play zone? When was the last time we played two opponents in a row who played man defense exclusively. Why? The answer is Cardoso. It's simply too easy for the lob to beat the zone and Cardoso to convert an easy basket.

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UNCarolina and Duke were detemined to keep a player between Cardoso and the basket. That means playing man. They preferred Kamilla catch the ball in the low post with her back to the basket and at least have to dribble. We did a better job against Duke of getting her the ball and letting her draw fouls. Thus Duke's bigs were in foul trouble late.

Another benefit of forcing teams out of zone is Fulwiley can beat just about anyone off the dribble. Duke has some very good perimeter defenders and they were struggling to stay in front of her.



Dawn was diplomatic in asking Paopao if she wanted to return. It wasn't just a case of seeing if Fulwiley could figure it out, she was killing it out there. The game was tied when she came in the 4th. Having several options is a good problem to have.

Edit to add: Notice in the twitter video, Richardson hit a 3 against Paopao to tie the game and then Fulwiley came in. Dawn made a tough call to get a better on ball defender in there late.
 

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The best thing about Sunday’s game was how Pao Pao willingly accepted the role of letting Dawn put MF in the end of game fire to learn. Pao Pao was playing well…but she gets the team winning aspect more. Best pickup by any team from the portal.
I like her. I like the way she plays; I like the way she talks. There's a fast-acting brain in that head.
 

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Let's talk about the Cardoso effect because the numbers don't tell the complete story. As Debbie Antonelli pointed out on the broadcast Sunday, Duke was deliberately avoiding challenging Cardoso inside. We only finished with 3 blocks in that game, 2 from Fulwiley on perimeter players. Duke settled for perimeter shots and pull-up jumpers and rarely if ever posted up. So all the whining on social media about the free throw disparity was completely unjustified (ACC fans did a lot of whining last weekend).

On the other end of the court, did you notice that UNC and Duke didn't play zone? When was the last time we played two opponents in a row who played man defense exclusively. Why? The answer is Cardoso. It's simply too easy for the lob to beat the zone and Cardoso to convert an easy basket.

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UNCarolina and Duke were detemined to keep a player between Cardoso and the basket. That means playing man. They preferred Kamilla catch the ball in the low post with her back to the basket and at least have to dribble. We did a better job against Duke of getting her the ball and letting her draw fouls. Thus Duke's bigs were in foul trouble late.

Another benefit of forcing teams out of zone is Fulwiley can beat just about anyone off the dribble. Duke has some very good perimeter defenders and they were struggling to stay in front of her.



Dawn was diplomatic in asking Paopao if she wanted to return. It wasn't just a case of seeing if Fulwiley could figure it out, she was killing it out there. The game was tied when she came in the 4th. Having several options is a good problem to have.

Edit to add: Notice in the twitter video, Richardson hit a 3 against Paopao to tie the game and then Fulwiley came in. Dawn made a tough call to get a better on ball defender in there late.

Here is Lawson’s post game presser. Calls out the officiating twice, pooh poohs the dustups that Dawn was pissed about and generally gives us no credit

 
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I'm sure Kara has some sour grapes because her assistant coach left her and her so did her star player as a result because of us.
She's a good coach and recruiter. She would certainly be doing better at UT than Harper. But always a lot of turnover in her program. I know it's common place now, but it's been that way from Day 1 with her. Duke played 10 players against us 2 years ago and none of them are still on the team.
 
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I'm sure Kara has some sour grapes because her assistant coach left her and her so did her star player as a result because of us.
she seems to have had a beef with Dawn before this. I remember a few years ago she made the comment that "she was not close with Dawn". Can't remember the context but it came across as no love lost.
 

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She's a good coach and recruiter. She would certainly be doing better at UT than Harper. But always a lot of turnover in her program. I know it's common place now, but it's been that way from Day 1 with her. Duke played 10 players against us 2 years ago and none of them are still on the team.
Harper is very low bar to outdo. Kellie has gotten by off of Holly Warlick recruits and the transfer portal. I can't think of a player she's recruited or developed into a high caliber SEC player.

I think Duke is slowly improving but as you mentioned the turnaround is a killer. Their recruiting is improving and players like Jackson has great potential.
 
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Gamecocks win 104-38. Everyone scores a lot, rebounds a ton, and steals aplenty. Now to get ready for Utah, who leads WCBB in scoring offense.....
 

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Gamecocks win 104-38. Everyone scores a lot, rebounds a ton, and steals aplenty......
Pretty much sums it up. Just a dominant performance against a vastly overmatched team. Looking forward to watching the game Sunday versus Utah.....
 

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I bet Tenn board is in melt down mode!

Saw where Kentucky lost too but atleast Eniya has turned into one of their more productive players which makes me happy! What’s going on with Maddie Scherr … is she hurt?
 

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I bet Tenn board is in melt down mode!

Saw where Kentucky lost too but atleast Eniya has turned into one of their more productive players which makes me happy! What’s going on with Maddie Scherr … is she hurt?
I expected a lot better from Harper, but this is moving toward unsurvivable.
 
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Tomorrow, the talk around the water cooler in Tennessee offices is going to be, Kelli is running this program in the ground.

I say for UT's sake, go after the DUKE coach!!!