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DarkCock

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Hyperbolic, a little. However look at the seeding
1,4,7,7,9,11,11,12. Very easily Gamecocks could be the only SEC team to make the second weekend.
I think to say the SEC is "mid" would be fair. But "embarassing" is the bottom 2/3rds of the Big Ten. The SEC is much tougher from top to bottom. Florida beat Michigan; Mizzou beat Illinois. Also, we were even in the ACC/SEC Challenge, if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Cardoso did not struggle in the 1st half. We struggled WITHOUT HER on the court in the 1st half. Rewatch the game if you doubt me.

And she should not be "co" Player of the Week with anyone, but at least she was recognized.


Not trying to argue with you, but she struggled in my opinion especially offensively. Part of that was on the guards with bad entry passes, but she could have worked harder to get post position as well. She, also, was not as tough as I would like to see her on the defensive end early. Allowed Angel Reese deep catches with two feet in the paint numerous times. She may played up to your expectations and that is fine, but I know Cardoso can be better. I am not one of those guys bashing her because she is not Aja Wilson or Boston. I have been watching Kamilla for 3 years. I know what her capabilities are. She disappointed me a little in the first half. However, she responded in the second half and we got the win. That's what matters.
 
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Not trying to argue with you, but she struggled in my opinion especially offensively. Part of that was on the guards with bad entry passes, but she could have worked harder to get post position as well. She, also, was not as tough as I would like to she her on the defensive end early. Allowed Angel Reese deep catches with two in the paint numerous times. She may played up to your expectations and that is fine, but I know Cardoso can be better. I am not one of those guys bashing her because she is not Aja Wilson or Boston. I have been watching Kamilla for 3 years. I know what her capabilities are. She disappointed me a little in the first half. However, she responded in the second half and we got the win. That's what matters.
As Dawn said after the Vandy game, "we want Cardoso to be more dominant." And she put it on the coaching staff to do more to get her the ball, and the results in the Vandy game were 24 points in 23 minutes

But, yeah, she was not perfect in the LSU game, especially on offense. I'm not say she was. Her defensive presence alone, though, made her invaluable in that game imo. LSU's lead went from 1 to 11 in a hurry when she went to the bench in the 1st.

Auburn plays a freshman at the 5, so hopefully she can continue to build off her performance against Vandy.
 

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There goes KingWard being hyperbolic again. The SEC is 3rd in the NET, ahead of the ACC & the Big Ten. Charlie Creme has 8 SEC teams in the tournament (tied with the PAC-12) and two teams in his "Next Four Out." The conference also claims the last two national champions who just played a game in front of a huge television audience. The conference is not "embarrassing." C'mon, dog.
Well I'm embarrassed. When I'm embarrassed, I'm oblivious to anyone and everyone else's ambivalence.
 

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Mississippi State's roster from the 2020 SEC Tournament Final included Rickea Jackson, Jessika Carter, JaMya Mingo-Young and Aliyah Mathuru. All still playing in the SEC.

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Vic had a solid foundation of freshmen had he stayed.

He avoided the juggernaut that the Freshies would be the next 3 years by leaving, though.
 

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Mississippi State's roster from the 2020 SEC Tournament Final included Rickea Jackson, Jessika Carter, JaMya Mingo-Young and Aliyah Mathuru. All still playing in the SEC.

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Vic had a solid foundation of freshmen had he stayed.

He avoided the juggernaut that the Freshies would be the next 3 years by leaving, though.
Wow
 

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There you go. If the unquestioned leading WBB authority on the board is out in left field, then I want to be out in left field with him. ✊👊😊
Ummm, The SEC IS a good conference, but the strength is you have 8 teams from 30-53. They are good AND they are all so damn inconsistent. You have to pay attention but nobody is quaking in their boots when they see them on the schedule.

I think some of the negative perception is due to the fact except for us and UT everyone had their version of a Mulkey schedule. I also think the inconsistent nature of the teams is because they weren’t tested in OOC.

ALSO this is a defense first league, (with a few exceptions) which makes the fact that we are averaging 88ppg in SEC games damn impressive. The fact that LSU has lost 3 games is proof of that. LSU averaged 96ppg in OOC, 79 in SEC. In those losses they averaged 68ppg.
 

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Mississippi State's roster from the 2020 SEC Tournament Final included Rickea Jackson, Jessika Carter, JaMya Mingo-Young and Aliyah Mathuru. All still playing in the SEC.

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Vic had a solid foundation of freshmen had he stayed.

He avoided the juggernaut that the Freshies would be the next 3 years by leaving, though.
KC and Paopao notwithstanding, I'm so ready for the extra Covid year madness to be done with.
 

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Ummm, The SEC IS a good conference, but the strength is you have 8 teams from 30-53. They are good AND they are all so damn inconsistent. You have to pay attention but nobody is quaking in their boots when they see them on the schedule.

I think some of the negative perception is due to the fact except for us and UT everyone had their version of a Mulkey schedule. I also think the inconsistent nature of the teams is because they weren’t tested in OOC.

ALSO this is a defense first league, (with a few exceptions) which makes the fact that we are averaging 88ppg in SEC games damn impressive. The fact that LSU has lost 3 games is proof of that. LSU averaged 96ppg in OOC, 79 in SEC. In those losses they averaged 68ppg.
My thought is playing all these teams on the bubble is pretty tough, especially on the road, as LSU is discovering. I expect a battle tomorrow. I expect a win, for sure, but Auburn did beat LSU, so they can play. They beat Clemson by 30. The bottom of the Big Ten and ACC provide more "nights off." We couldn't get playing time for the end of our bench against Vandy and Mississippi St at home. Vandy was even closer against NC State than they were against us.

Good point about the weak OOC schedule. The biggest victim of that was Texax A&M. Joanie Taylor went full Mulkey: weak OOC schedule and 3 transfer starters. They have been a bigger disappointment than LSU to me.
 
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Auburn preview

The place will be packed hoping to catch lightning ⚡️ in a bottle again. They will try to make the pace of play ponderous. They are also going to try to get every defensive rebound.

This is a team that went 11-2 in OOC losing to #63 Cal and #94 UCF. They did beat the taters by 30🎉🎉 They were not ready for SEC and it showed. They dropped their first three but since then are 3-1 in conference. Besides LSU they beat UGA and Bama, they lost to Vandy in the final seconds at Nashville. They are a top 30 D.

They have 10 players that have started at least one game, but the consistent four are

Honesty Scott-Grayson who’s their best player. 5’9” guard 16ppg and the heart and soul of this team. Not a very good shooter but still manages to score.

Jamya Mingo-Young 5’8” averages 9ppg. Fast and quick good ball handler. Not a good shooter and takes very few 3 pointers.

Taylen Collins 6’1” averages 8.4ppg and 7rebounds. Their best rebounder and good defender.

Sydney Shaw 5’8” averages 6.3 ppg but is a very poor shooter. There for D

They have another six players who play over 10 minutes a game. It’s kinda of a mix and match about what they need in a certain situation.

Scott 6’4 and Akinbolawa 6’5” bring height and 10 fouls down low. Scott is averaging 6ppg on 60% shooting. Akinbolawa adds very little on offense.

Bostic and Duhon are 2guards and their best shooters who combined average 10ppg.

Sumbane 6’1” is a serviceable sub in the front court. She is however a foul and a turnover waiting to happen.

This is a group where the sum is greater than the parts. Good cohesion on D and though limited on O they have a plan.

This should be a 20+ game for us. Need to take them out early. Shake their confidence and get the crowd out of the equation. They have been in every SEC game but A&M, who really did a number on them defensively.
 

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Ummm, The SEC IS a good conference, but the strength is you have 8 teams from 30-53. They are good AND they are all so damn inconsistent. You have to pay attention but nobody is quaking in their boots when they see them on the schedule.

I think some of the negative perception is due to the fact except for us and UT everyone had their version of a Mulkey schedule. I also think the inconsistent nature of the teams is because they weren’t tested in OOC.

ALSO this is a defense first league, (with a few exceptions) which makes the fact that we are averaging 88ppg in SEC games damn impressive. The fact that LSU has lost 3 games is proof of that. LSU averaged 96ppg in OOC, 79 in SEC. In those losses they averaged 68ppg.
Well, this is a broad stroke but you see what I'm getting at. There was a day when the SEC was more prominent nationally in WBB than it is right now. That's not saying it couldn't happen again, but the league is in its modern nadir right now. Tennessee's prolonged futility is a big part of it. Vic leaving was a part of it also, but of course, he's coming back.
 

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Well, this is a broad stroke but you see what I'm getting at. There was a day when the SEC was more prominent nationally in WBB than it is right now. That's not saying it couldn't happen again, but the league is in its modern nadir right now. Tennessee's prolonged futility is a big part of it. Vic leaving was a part of it also, but of course, he's coming back.
We have both painted in broad strokes. I think calling this a modern nadir, is as usual a testament to your mastery of the English language, but over the top.

I have been critical of the league’s strength this year, it’s an odd year. I know I look critically at the SEC in part because LSU has been soooo hyped. They are a very talented bully, but smack back and expose their glaring weaknesses and they don’t look as scary. UT just stunk in OOC but is getting better. I expected more out of A&M, Miss St and OM. All are portal reliant and had injuries.

Gazing into next year I see Vandy on the rise but they should enjoy Shea Ralph as she will be the heir to Geno.

Coach Yo is out after the season. No fan support or it would seem from the administration. She went to a popular OM watering hole after the game last night and said “Drinks are on me, just show me your ticket.” Rumors are it was a very manageable tab.

Harper’s seat is getting hotter, Coach Abe has been a total flop in her second season. Purcell and Taylor are really building. VIC IS BACK. Finley is a fraud and not just her hair color🤣
Pingeton bye bye.
 

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Watching the Vandy/Auburn game from earlier this season, I was struck by how balanced the Commodores are. They don't do anything particularly outstanding, but they also don't have any glaring weaknesses. Auburn, on the other hand, is completely unbalanced. They are excellent on defense and not so good on offense.

Auburn has the best group of defensive guards in the nation. They are 5 deep, at least. In the SEC, they lead the conference in steals. They defend the 3 point line better than any other team. Opposing teams struggle at times just dribbling the ball up-court. Don't even think about a lazy pass to the wing against this team because it will get stolen. They also do an excellent job of denying the ball to the post. As for their bigs, I think Johnnie Harris hopes they can hold their own and not get bullied underneath. They did just enough against LSU for them to win that game. But Auburn bigs are not going to block a lot of shots or have a huge rebounding game. We must get the ball to Cardoso involved early and often.

Offensively, well, it's been a struggle. Their best 2 scorers are Honesty Scott-Grayson and Mingo-Young. Both shoot under 40%. Overall, they have been the worst 3 point shooting team in conference play (21.7%). They average only 61.1 points in 7 conference games (they give up an average of 61.1 points...no joke). After our lackluster defensive performance against Vandy, I'm looking for a return to form in this game.

The only way I see Auburn winning is if we commit at least 20 turnovers. They need live ball turnovers that they can turn into transition baskets. It will be interesting to see how much leash Dawn gives Fulwiley. That up-and-down chaotic pace that Fulwiley brings to the game is a bit of a double-edged sword against Auburn. Johnnie Harris would like to play at that pace, anything that would diminish the importance of Cardoso. But Dawn tends to insert Fulwiley and Watkins at the same time. She likes to play Raven and Cardoso together because Raven is more cognizant of getting the ball to Cardoso, imo. We'll see. Fulwiley, if she doesn't turn the ball over, could be effective against Auburn's aggressive guards.

One odd note: Auburn got out to a 12-0 lead against Bama, 9-0 lead against UGA, and 9-0 against Vandy. Hope we come ready to play tomorrow.
 

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Watching the Vandy/Auburn game from earlier this season, I was struck by how balanced the Commodores are. They don't do anything particularly outstanding, but they also don't have any glaring weaknesses. Auburn, on the other hand, is completely unbalanced. They are excellent on defense and not so good on offense.

Auburn has the best group of defensive guards in the nation. They are 5 deep, at least. In the SEC, they lead the conference in steals. They defend the 3 point line better than any other team. Opposing teams struggle at times just dribbling the ball up-court. Don't even think about a lazy pass to the wing against this team because it will get stolen. They also do an excellent job of denying the ball to the post. As for their bigs, I think Johnnie Harris hopes they can hold their own and not get bullied underneath. They did just enough against LSU for them to win that game. But Auburn bigs are not going to block a lot of shots or have a huge rebounding game. We must get the ball to Cardoso involved early and often.

Offensively, well, it's been a struggle. Their best 2 scorers are Honesty Scott-Grayson and Mingo-Young. Both shoot under 40%. Overall, they have been the worst 3 point shooting team in conference play (21.7%). They average only 61.1 points in 7 conference games (they give up an average of 61.1 points...no joke). After our lackluster defensive performance against Vandy, I'm looking for a return to form in this game.

The only way I see Auburn winning is if we commit at least 20 turnovers. They need live ball turnovers that they can turn into transition baskets. It will be interesting to see how much leash Dawn gives Fulwiley. That up-and-down chaotic pace that Fulwiley brings to the game is a bit of a double-edged sword against Auburn. Johnnie Harris would like to play at that pace, anything that would diminish the importance of Cardoso. But Dawn tends to insert Fulwiley and Watkins at the same time. She likes to play Raven and Cardoso together because Raven is more cognizant of getting the ball to Cardoso, imo. We'll see. Fulwiley, if she doesn't turn the ball over, could be effective against Auburn's aggressive guards.

One odd note: Auburn got out to a 12-0 lead against Bama, 9-0 lead against UGA, and 9-0 against Vandy. Hope we come ready to play tomorrow.
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Well, this is a broad stroke but you see what I'm getting at. There was a day when the SEC was more prominent nationally in WBB than it is right now. That's not saying it couldn't happen again, but the league is in its modern nadir right now. Tennessee's prolonged futility is a big part of it. Vic leaving was a part of it also, but of course, he's coming back.
Word salad as usual. Big nothing. Last two NC’s and current only undefeated team in the nation. Go figure.
 
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So I’m going to watch K state on ESPN+ at 7. I know they will be without Ayoka Lee, their star center but I want to see what 20-1 looks like.

We beat them 65-44 two seasons ago. Got Lee in foul trouble and held her to 14. She got 8 in garbage time in the 4th quarter
 
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The SEC sucked in football this past season also. No dressing on the salad. You're welcome.
Four of the top ten teams and five of the top 12 in the nation in final polls, so define “sucked” word salad chef. Because if you can only avoid the “suck” label by winning the whole enchilada, then in WBB the SEC has the last two enchilada holders and the favorite for this year as well.

I like my dressing on the side you see. I recall the same sentiments last year reference SEC WBB and then the tournament happened. Which conference had two teams in the final four again? Which conference had the most wins in the tourney? Which one holds the golden enchilada once again? Talk to me about your definition of “suck” again great domed one.
 
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Funny "KingWard", I think some of the hijackers of my thread are turning on you!!!

You jumped on their train by bad mouthing me. The originals who have posted here early on, no longer visit as they prefer to be on other women's basketball boards. I created the board simply to talk recruiting, do a little jabbing on gameday and have fun conversations.

You decided to join the group of a few that have ruined it for some folks. If you notice, it's the same posters over and over AND not any new folks or old timers.

I will keep posting and hope you do too. It makes me look good as the creator of a thread that is probably the most viewed and responded to in the history of 003. So, kudos to me!!!!
 
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Funny "KingWard", I think some of the hijackers of my thread are turning on you!!!

You jumped on their train by bad mouthing me. The originals who have posted here early on, no longer visit as they prefer to be on other women's basketball boards. I created the board simply to talk recruiting, do a little jabbing on gameday and have fun conversations.

You decided to join the group of a few that have ruined it for some folks. If you notice, it's the same posters over and over AND not any new folks or old timers.

I will keep posting and hope you do too. It makes me look good as the creator of a thread that is probably the most viewed and responded to in the history of 003. So, kudos to me!!!!
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Four of the top ten teams and five of the top 12 in the nation in final polls, so define “sucked” word salad chef. Because if you can only avoid the “suck” label by winning the whole enchilada, then in WBB the SEC has the last two enchilada holders and the favorite for this year as well.

I like my dressing on the side you see. I recall the same sentiments last year reference SEC WBB and then the tournament happened. Which conference had two teams in the final four again? Which conference had the most wins in the tourney? Which one holds the golden enchilada once again? Talk to me about your definition of “suck” again great domed one.
Not good in the pre-conference against the major opponents, mediocre against OOC opponents on rivalry Saturday, undistinguished in the bowls and thumped like a booger in the playoff. A year not befitting the best conference in America. The best conference (that doesn't suck) separates itself.
 

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Maryland seems to be in a tailspin. Down by 22 at the half to Indiana. It will be interesting to see how many players jump ship after a bad season vs in the past when they have lost multiple players even when they were good.
Frese has been a magician at retooling with transfers for the last 4-5 years. So much talent has left and come into that program. When you are forced to rely on transfers eventually you miss on who you bring in and the house of cards starts to fall. Harper at UT is another hamster on the wheel and it looks like Mulkey might also be in that position this offseason
 

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Maryland seems to be in a tailspin. Down by 22 at the half to Indiana. It will be interesting to see how many players jump ship after a bad season vs in the past when they have lost multiple players even when they were good.
Sellers being hurt definitely in the past week isn't helping matters.
 
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Frese has been a magician at retooling with transfers for the last 4-5 years. So much talent has left and come into that program. When you are forced to rely on transfers eventually you miss on who you bring in and the house of cards starts to fall. Harper at UT is another hamster on the wheel and it looks like Mulkey might also be in that position this offseason
Tennessee's scholarship chart is wild.

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Firing Harper would probably lead to more defections and make the situation worse.
 

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The coach of Grand Canyon is a popular name on the Vols board. Not sure what her qualifications are, basketball wise

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2019-20Drury32-0
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Miller's marks
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Pretty strong. On the personal side, married, two children. Older one is about nine years old.
 
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So they went with the experienced assistant in Warlick, then went mid major with Harper... try another mid major? I'd say they go after coach from a power conference school. Given that it likely has to be a woman, there aren't that many options.

Is coach Yo a possibility?
 

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So they went with the experienced assistant in Warlick, then went mid major with Harper... try another mid major? I'd say they go after coach from a power conference school. Given that it likely has to be a woman, there aren't that many options.

Is coach Yo a possibility?
First off Harper keeps pulling a rabbit out of her hat just when you think she’s done. She has talent that May again rally and be a sweet 16 team, but I doubt it.

UT under Pat Summitt and Women’s AD Joan Cronan sp? was probably the most women centric and forward thinking school in the SEC. I think UT is working with the idea that their coach has to be a woman and have played at UT.

The Summitt legacy is so strong. I don’t know that they would be ready to hire an “outsider”. Right now Kara Lawson at Duke would be the only one to fit that profile.

IF Harper fails and they go outside the family, it’s got to be a WOW!! Like what LSU did.
 

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The picks for tonight. Last time out I was 3-4 for my worst showing all season(5-2 was previous worst) I haven’t placed a bet since I was a senior in college 1979-80. I had a sure thing so I put 200$ down. 🤬🤬🤬Atlanta Falcons. That cured me. But I digress.

Gamecocks✔️✔️✔️@ Auburn
Hopefully you read my review and DarkCock’s.

MISS ST✔️@ UK
In their last five UK is 1-4. They beat a poor Mizzou team but in the other 4 they gave up 88, 91, 95, and 98 playing matador defense, OLE!! 💃🏼💃🏼.Petty is still most improved player but Jessika Carter clamps her down.

UT ✔️vs UGA
UGA is alone in the cellar 1-6 and has lost their last six. They hang their hat on that funky D but how do you win when you only average 55 points a game in SEC play? I’m telling you right now UGA vs UK WILL BE MUST SEE TV🤣🤣 The team that can’t score vs the team that can’t defend.

Ole Miss✔️ @ Vandy
Two darn good teams going at it. I’ve seen Vandy play more than OM and really like how they play. However OM is playing better and while they do not have The pick of destiny they do possess Tenacious D.

Bama @ Ark ✔️
This is their second matchup of the season. Ark pummeled the elephants the first time. Ark shot poorly but Dominated the boards and Dauda had 10 blocked shots and they won by 18. But this is Ark after all, a team that lost to UK and then beat them by 30 in the rematch 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ That said, Bama is no model of consistent play. I’m picking Ark but be warned it is a Forrest Gump box of chocolates 🍫 game.