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Kentucky game thoughts:

* Everyone in the starting lineup played extremely well.

- After struggling for a couple of games, Bree has put together two excellent back-to-back games. Perhaps the best game of her career today. She was 8-10 from the field and 2-3 from behind the arc. Her defense on Scherr was outstanding. We finished +49 in her 27 minutes on the floor!

- Chloe played the kind of game we need her to play against smaller teams. I understand she'll be at a disadvantage against a team like LSU, but she should be able to hold her own against Kentucky. She did more than hold her own; she grabbed 12 rebounds, blocked 2 shots, and had 5 assists to go along with 10 points.

- Watkins was dominant in her brief 19 minutes of play. We were +31 with her on the court. Petty could get nothing going with Watkins in the game.

* There is a post on another thread where it's said that we have some players who have been playing hero ball lately. The poster didn't name names, but I took it as a veiled reference to Fulwiley. I think the poster fails to appreciate that Fulwiley's role is to come in and make things happen. Our problem last year was players like Fletcher and Saxton could be ghosts out there at times. Fulwiley is going to make her presence felt, believe that. She gets to the foul line like no one else on our team. She was 12 of 12 from the line today. We finished 19 of 21 as a team. 😲 (Kentucky was 7 of 18).

* Sania Feagin had a slow start offensively, but she turned it on in the 2nd half to have a nice overall game.

* I hope we don't need any significant minutes from Sakima Walker in the post-season. She simply doesn't rebound well enough. It's concerning.
Since you are talking about me, I really wasn't talking about Fulwiley. I was talking about all of our perimeter players over the course of a two game period. In those games, we had several players driving the ball without a plan and doing something that 8th graders are taught not to do. They were driving the ball into crowds, not being decisive with it and picking up their dribble. Guess what is going to happen when you do that? You get trapped. Now, it didn't happen a lot, but I just don't expect those type of mistakes out of high level players like ours. I don't call names, except when you are dealing with professionals, so I still won't do that. However, I don't see the problem in calling that out. Sorry, I am not a cheerleader type of fan. When you play well, I will say so. When I see something that can turn into an issue, I say so. The issue I have is that you were all gung ho, when I was defending Kamilla against fans that were questioning her ability because she is 6-7". Now, you are talking about what I don't understand the minute I am not 100% positive. You have to take the good with the bad. I am going to call it like I see it. I give the kids their just due for stepping up to every challenge, but I am a hard grader. I probably watch and/or attend 2 NBA games a night. So, I can be a little hard on college players. I get that, however, I want the best for all of our players especially on the women's side because my expectation for all of those that get significant playing time is the WNBA or some professional career in basketball.
 
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Since you are talking about me, I really wasn't talking about Fulwiley. I was talking about all of our perimeter players over the course of a two game period. In those games, we had several players driving the ball without a plan and doing something that 8th graders are taught not to do. They were driving the ball into crowds, not being decisive with it and picking up their dribble. Guess what is going to happen when you do that? You get trapped. Now, it didn't happen a lot, but I just don't expect those type of mistakes out of high level players like ours. I don't call names, except when you are dealing with professionals, so I still won't do that. However, I don't see the problem in calling that out. Sorry, I am not a cheerleader type of fan. When you play well, I will say so. When I see something that can turn into an issue, I say so. The issue I have is that you were all gung ho, when I was defending Kamilla against fans that were questioning her ability because she is 6-7". Now, you are talking about what I don't understand the minute I am not 100% positive. You have to take the good with the bad. I am going to call it like I see it. I give the kids their just due for stepping up to every challenge, but I am a hard grader. I probably watch and/or attend 2 NBA games a night. So, I can be a little hard on college players. I get that, however, I want the best for all of our players especially on the women's side because my expectation for all of those that get significant playing time is the WNBA or some professional career in basketball.
The NBA regular season is turrrible. No wonder you don't appreciate good defense. I kid, I kid.

I love this YouTube channel. This guy rips apart lazy NBA play.

 

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The NBA regular season is turrrible. No wonder you don't appreciate good defense. I kid, I kid.

I love this YouTube channel. This guy rips apart lazy NBA play.


I knew you would come back with an uninformed retort like that. You are doing what a lot of people do. They pick a play or series of plays for confirmation bias as to a reason or set of reason they don't like the NBA. If the NBA is so bad, why are the best players trying so hard to get there? Why is Chris Silva, one of our best players at USC in the last decade, been trying for the last four years to make it back in the NBA after getting cut. Sin and PJ would give anything to be back in the NBA. I bet you don't even understand why it is easier to play defense on the college level. Well, I'll educate. You can sit your bigs in the lane and provide permanent help interior defense because their is no defensive 3 second rule on the college level. However, I don't bemoan the difference in rules or be ignorant to them like most. I accept the college game for what it is. I accept the professional game for what it is. I love basketball. Now, if you really want to have an informed basketball discussion, let's go. However, you don't impress me with your constant cheerleading of our players like they are perfect. If college coaching was so great, explain to me why GG Jackson has learned to shoot so much better now that he has left the perfect tutelage of college coaching?

Dude's with the NBA defense take, kill me. Did Basketball players just forget how to play defense because they went professional? Get out of here. The players are better and the college rules assist players in playing defense. That's the truth if you want to be fair. Waiting on your NBA All-Star Game footage which is not even a real game.
 
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I knew you would come back with an uninformed retort like that. You are doing what a lot of people do. They pick a play or series of plays for confirmation bias as to a reason or set of reason they don't like the NBA. If the NBA is so bad, why are the best players trying so hard to get there? Why is Chris Silva, one of our best players at USC in the last decade, been trying for the last four years to make it back in the NBA after getting cut. Sin and PJ would give anything to be back in the NBA. I bet you don't even understand why it is easier to play defense on the college level. Well, I'll educate. You can sit your bigs in the lane and provide permanent help interior defense because their is no defensive 3 second rule on the college level. However, I don't bemoan the difference in rules or be ignorant to them like most. I accept the college game for what it is. I accept the professional game for what it is. I love basketball. Now, if you really want to have an informed basketball discussion, let's go. However, you don't impress me with your constant cheerleading of our players like they are perfect. If college coaching was so great, explain to me why GG Jackson has learned to shoot so much better now that he has left the perfect tutelage of college coaching?

Dude's with the NBA defense take, kill me. Did Basketball players just forget how to play defense because they went professional? Get out here. The players are better and the college rules assist players in playing defense. That's the truth if you want to be fair. Waiting on your NBA All-Star Game footage which is not even a real game.
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I noticed you didn't say I am wrong. Further, I hate you continuously put me in a position to criticize our players because you couldn't respect the opinions of others. However, I am going to let it go now if you will. However, don't run to other threads talking about me and don't expect me to see it.
 

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I noticed you didn't say I am wrong. Further, I hate you continuously put me in a position to criticize our players because you couldn't respect the opinions of others. However, I am going to let it go now if you will. However, don't run to other threads talking about me and don't expect me to see it.
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Our last two conference losses were to Kentucky and Missouri, probably bought Pingeton and Elzy an extra year. Time might be up for them.

Pingeton has been at Mizzou 14 seasons with 4 NCAA Appearances with Sophie and a losing record last five. Time to move on.

Elzy got put in a tough spot when Matthew Mitchell retired. She inherited a decent roster that has degraded yearly. There is nothing in the pipeline, time to start over.

Harper🤷‍♂️has been on the portal like a Guinea pig on a wheel. She just can’t run fast enough any more. I think she gets another year but she needs 6 players in the portal with at least 3 of them being starters.
 

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Pingeton has been at Mizzou 14 seasons with 4 NCAA Appearances with Sophie and a losing record last five. Time to move on.

Elzy got put in a tough spot when Matthew Mitchell retired. She inherited a decent roster that has degraded yearly. There is nothing in the pipeline, time to start over.

Harper🤷‍♂️has been on the portal like a Guinea pig on a wheel. She just can’t run fast enough any more. I think she gets another year but she needs 6 players in the portal with at least 3 of them being starters.
I have been reading some Arkansas boards to get a feel for fan sentiment about Mike Neighbors before our game on Thursday. Most state the obvious: progress has stagnated after a promising start. But can they fire a coach who consistently has his team on the bubble, especially at a program that has known little success? Unless the AD plans on a Kim Mulkey-esque splash hire, the consensus is no.
 

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Pingeton has been at Mizzou 14 seasons with 4 NCAA Appearances with Sophie and a losing record last five. Time to move on.

Elzy got put in a tough spot when Matthew Mitchell retired. She inherited a decent roster that has degraded yearly. There is nothing in the pipeline, time to start over.

Harper🤷‍♂️has been on the portal like a She just can’t run fast enough any more. I think she gets another year but she needs 6 players in the portal with at least 3 of them being starter
"Harper🤷‍♂️has been on the portal like a Guinea pig on a wheel. She just can’t run fast enough any more."
That there is funny. I don't care who you are.
 

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Interesting stat on Arkansas: every SEC game they have lost, they have also lost the rebounding battle. Every SEC game they have won, they have also won the rebounding battle, except for the Kentucky game.

I could probably end my preview of the Arkansas game right there. Although we are not as dominant a rebounding team as the past few seasons, we should easily have the rebounding edge tomorrow night.

The Hogs are actually pretty decent at defensive rebounding and defense in general. However, since their bigs stay on the perimeter mostly on offense, they don't rebound well on that end of the court. When they shoot free throws, Neighbors doesn't even have his players contest a rebound. I don't recall seeing another team in the country that doesn't have at least one token player attempting to rebound a free throw miss.

Surprisingly, Arkansas' offense has been their biggest problem. They attempt the 2nd most 3 pointers per game in the nation and hit them at a percentage (31%) that is comparable to our 3 point percentage last season. Of course Arkansas doesn't have the offensive rebounding capability we possessed last season, so their offense isn't very efficient.

The freshman Talia Scott has missed the last 2 games because of a family emergency. I watched her closely for the first time this week and tbh I'm not seeing the comparison to Fulwiley and Makayla Williams. She definitely isn't as physically impressive as those two. She is a good shooter, though, and takes a lot of tough step-back 3's. In the games I've seen, she hesitated to take the ball to the basket. I hope she plays. It would be interesting to see her matchup against Bree.
 

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I love official Gamecock wbb twitter dropping advanced stats and making a case from one of our players, HOWEVER as much as dislike Angel Reese's on the court behavior, I'll give her credit for the work she puts in. I respect the grind. She plays a ton of minutes and they need her to play them. I think these recent missed games have probably cost Cardoso a chance at SEC POY. She's resting and the team hasn't skipped a beat. From my understanding, she wants to play; the decision not to play her is Dawn's. Coach is putting long term goals over individual awards, so get it. I hope she plays tomorrow, though. We need to be gelling as a team. The postseason is right around the corner.
 

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I love official Gamecock wbb twitter dropping advanced stats and making a case from one of our players, HOWEVER as much as dislike Angel Reese's on the court behavior, I'll give her credit for the work she puts in. I respect the grind. She plays a ton of minutes and they need her to play them. I think these recent missed games have probably cost Cardoso a chance at SEC POY. She's resting and the team hasn't skipped a beat. From my understanding, she wants to play; the decision not to play her is Dawn's. Coach is putting long term goals over individual awards, so get it. I hope she plays tomorrow, though. We need to be gelling as a team. The postseason is right around the corner.

I respect the work she puts in during the games, but honestly, I can't really respect her for her lack of work this summer when she got out of shape. My understanding was that she was barely on campus this summer working with her team. In my opinion, truly elite players (which I think she thinks of herself as) don't do that. Compare that to players like Raven, Chloe & Ashlyn who really put in WORK this summer.

But having said that, I am fine with her getting SEC POY. She has played very well in most SEC games.

But having said THAT, I am glad to see our social media team highlighting what Cardoso does well. A lot of what she does on defense doesn't show up in stats so I am glad to see them point out those defensive win shares. Angel is certainly more of a stat stuffer than Cardoso but that doesn't mean what Cardoso does isn't just as important. But I agree with you: us doing well in these games without Cardoso I think eliminates her from winning the award (even though that doesn't actually diminish what she does for the team).
 

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I respect the work she puts in during the games, but honestly, I can't really respect her for her lack of work this summer when she got out of shape. My understanding was that she was barely on campus this summer working with her team. In my opinion, truly elite players (which I think she thinks of herself as) don't do that. Compare that to players like Raven, Chloe & Ashlyn who really put in WORK this summer.

But having said that, I am fine with her getting SEC POY. She has played very well in most SEC games.

But having said THAT, I am glad to see our social media team highlighting what Cardoso does well. A lot of what she does on defense doesn't show up in stats so I am glad to see them point out those defensive win shares. Angel is certainly more of a stat stuffer than Cardoso but that doesn't mean what Cardoso does isn't just as important. But I agree with you: us doing well in these games without Cardoso I think eliminates her from winning the award (even though that doesn't actually diminish what she does for the team).
Excellent comment. I think the ray of hope for Cardoso is the winner is determined by a vote of conference coaches. I think that gives her a better chance than a media vote.
 

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I respect the work she puts in during the games, but honestly, I can't really respect her for her lack of work this summer when she got out of shape. My understanding was that she was barely on campus this summer working with her team. In my opinion, truly elite players (which I think she thinks of herself as) don't do that. Compare that to players like Raven, Chloe & Ashlyn who really put in WORK this summer.

But having said that, I am fine with her getting SEC POY. She has played very well in most SEC games.

But having said THAT, I am glad to see our social media team highlighting what Cardoso does well. A lot of what she does on defense doesn't show up in stats so I am glad to see them point out those defensive win shares. Angel is certainly more of a stat stuffer than Cardoso but that doesn't mean what Cardoso does isn't just as important. But I agree with you: us doing well in these games without Cardoso I think eliminates her from winning the award (even though that doesn't actually diminish what she does for the team).
I Don’t know where you get the idea that Kamilla loafed all summer and was out of shape. She was with the Brazilian national team all summer. It kicked the dog crap out of the USA national team that Raven(who was barely in town this summer)played on, not once but twice. Kamilla was the MVP for the tournament and beat down Angel Reese and stole her lunch money. Chloe was not in Columbia very much this summer either. She was starting alongside Edwards on the U-19 National Team. She tied for leading scorer and rebounder. She started at center when Del Rosario quit the team to go to Baton Rouge to get in shape🤣🤣🤣.
Paopao trained most of the summer in California with an offensive and defensive coach. Her work out partner for O was HVL.
Just because players are not in town doesn’t mean they are loafing about.
 

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I Don’t know where you get the idea that Kamilla loafed all summer and was out of shape. She was with the Brazilian national team all summer. It kicked the dog crap out of the USA national team that Raven(who was barely in town this summer)played on, not once but twice. Kamilla was the MVP for the tournament and beat down Angel Reese and stole her lunch money. Chloe was not in Columbia very much this summer either. She was starting alongside Edwards on the U-19 National Team. She tied for leading scorer and rebounder. She started at center when Del Rosario quit the team to go to Baton Rouge to get in shape🤣🤣🤣.
Paopao trained most of the summer in California with an offensive and defensive coach. Her work out partner for O was HVL.
Just because players are not in town doesn’t mean they are loafing about.
I took "she" to refer to Angel Reese, not Cardoso.
 

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Oh no! What happened?
Knee injury, operated on just a few days ago, should recover just fine. It was her second such knee injury but if I read correctly may not be the same knee and was not a catastrophic type. Probably 6 mos recovery according to article I read. We can afford to red shirt her next season obviously so she will get all the time she needs to get back to 100%. Same for TAC tbh.
 

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On a lighter note, the game at Arkansas tomorrow evening should be interesting if not competitive, it will show how we play defensively versus a team that primarily lives by shooting the three from the entire lineup, we could face a few teams in the NCAA’s that play that style also.
 

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Upcoming SEC tourney followed by NCAA’s is always the toughest stretch run of the season, staying undefeated would obviously be a huge challenge and I’m not focused on that until the NCAA’s start, but it’s definitely time to recognize what has happened thus far, and by any measure it’s been absolutely amazing. Whatever happens from here, I’m very proud to have been a fan of this team these past 12 years or so since I became addicted. I dont take any of this for granted. What a ride.
 

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The picks

Gamecocks @ Arkansas
I am 3-11 picking Arkansas games. Just going to pass on predicting this one. Do not want to be the guy who jinxed a 45 game win streak.

A&M @ UT✔️✔️
Must win game for UT to have any hope to maintain double bye. A&M has averaged 59 ppg in their last 7 games. Five without Rogers. One would think UT could muddle through this game and win? But they lost by 16 in College Station earlier this season, still the pick is UT.

Ole Miss✔️✔️@ UK
UK I’m sure is saying “It’s not the Gamecocks!” Yes, but OM plays D also. Second half rout.

Bama✔️✔️ @ UF
Bama wins out and they are a 4 seed. They are 6-2 in their last 8 games. The losses were at LSU and South Carolina. They have become a good team with an identity. UF is on pace for opening day in Greenville.

LSU✔️✔️ @ UGA
UGA weird D May stifle Barbie for awhile but they are just too strong on the boards.

Vandy ✔️✔️@ Mizzou
Mizzou is 2-12 and has lost 9 in a row. It’s senior night for Haley Frank. She deserved better than this. Maybe she can go to a winner with her COVID year. Too predictable and not enough talent for a well coached Vandy

Miss St @ Auburn✔️✔️
Two weeks ago State was a hot pick for a top 4 seed but then….. they got blown out by UF, choked in OT vs OM, totally collapsed vs UK, getting out scored 19-0 over the last 8 minutes. They are playing their worst ball of the season. Auburn puts them down with D and Honesty Scott-Grayson. Massey has this as a 50/50 game
 
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