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All of these conspiracy theories are based upon half truths, fabrications, and paranoia.
The one fact that brings this out best is that they did not finalize the parade route until shortly before the assassination. Oswald somehow got his job at a place overlooking a parade that was not even planned at the time? Yet, we are to believe the conspirators meticulously set up Oswald as the scapegoat with years of planning and a long series of actions leading up to the day?
And that POS Oswald had a Marine Corp marksmanship score of 212. Charles Whitman, the Texas Tower sniper, had a Marine Corp score of 215. Any score over 210 qualified the person as a sharpshooter. over 220 was considered an expert.
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I was in German class when the Principal announced that JFK has been shot. I moved to Mechnical Drawing Class when it was announced that the President was dead. We just talked among ourselves for the rest of the class.
I agree that the Posner book is excellent. In the book Posner mentioned Larry Sturdivan who I worked with later in the 1990's. . Larry did the ballistics and he told me that Lee Oswald did the shooting. The bullets that hit JFK came from the rifle found on the 6th floor of the Book Depository had Oswald's palm print. This same rifle was used in an attempted killing of Gen Walker the leader of the John Birch Society in Dallas earlier. He also did the ballistics on the killing of officer Tripett. The killing of the officer was an open and shut case was there were eye witnesses and the ballistics matched the pistol Oswald had when he was caught.
What remains a mystery is the Ruby shooting of Oswald, not that actual event, but why?
I agree that the Posner book is excellent. In the book Posner mentioned Larry Sturdivan who I worked with later in the 1990's. . Larry did the ballistics and he told me that Lee Oswald did the shooting. The bullets that hit JFK came from the rifle found on the 6th floor of the Book Depository had Oswald's palm print. This same rifle was used in an attempted killing of Gen Walker the leader of the John Birch Society in Dallas earlier. He also did the ballistics on the killing of officer Tripett. The killing of the officer was an open and shut case was there were eye witnesses and the ballistics matched the pistol Oswald had when he was caught.
What remains a mystery is the Ruby shooting of Oswald, not that actual event, but why?
Remember it well...Political Science class in HS, 15 yrs old,
released for the next couple days until after funeral. Very sad day for the country.
The Ruby shooting is one of the things that really fueled the conspiracy theories, and rightly so.
Ruby claims it was a spur of the moment decision, and he wanted to save Jackie Kennedy from having to go through a trial.
But, man, it muddies the waters.
A moment before Agent Hill made his run to the Presidential limo that in reality should have been accelerating away if the driver hadn't become a spectator by turning to look behind him after hearing the second shot.
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Just because Oswald was trained to shoot doesn’t mean that he was a trained sniper. Simple answer, hesitation.
Today’s episode of the Solving JFK podcast covered the recent claims of Secret Service agent Paul Landis that he found the magic bullet in the back of the limo and set it on Kennedy’s hospital gurney.
The episode is about 25 minutes long and is a good example of how the podcast tries to present a balanced perspective of events surrounding the assassination.
The episode is about 25 minutes long and is a good example of how the podcast tries to present a balanced perspective of events surrounding the assassination.
Except there was nothing magic about the magic bullet as proven by ballistics experts. See PBS Nova episode examining the ballistics.
I completely agree with your post. Many years ago I watched a reenactment of this tragedy. A sniper used a remote control car and a crash dummy with target material to access hits and misses. He first used a scoped 6.5mm Carcano which was the same gun used in the assassination. English soldiers affectionately labeled the Carcano as the most forgiving rifle used in WWII, probably due to its lack of accuracy and poor reliability. If memory serves me right I think he got to practice with that rifle for one week leading up to the filming. He took 3 shots and found the mark twice, but only missing the third shot by an inch. He repeated the exercise using the Carcano and achieved the same results. However, when he used his rifle with modern ammunition he found the mark on all 3 shots, not once but on three different attempts (9 shots). Speaking from some experience these were indeed close shots but far from easy shots, especially when you factor in nerves, rapid heartbeat and the ability to focus. Here's what I believe, Lee Harvey Oswald was indeed the shooter, you are correct, but the plan involved some well connected groups. He was not an average shot, instead he was dam near sniper material. Also, contrary to popular belief he was "NOT" the bumbling idiot the media made him out to be and Jack Ruby made sure that information never got out.. That's my honest opinion on LHO and JFK assassination.
This theory is not as far fetched as it would seem. The secret service had just started using the AR-15 and George Hickey was a junior secret service guy with likely limited experience with that gun. It doesn't mean that Oswald didn't already fire the kill shot, but Hickey could have finished the deal.
Forgive me if I have a hard time believing claims that come out this long after the fact....oh, and it is a scene straight from the Oliver Stone movie.
Oh, he published a book too.
Color me skeptical.
And the early versions were prone to slam fire, where the closing of the bolt carries enough forward momentum to drive the firing pin into the primer, firing the weapon without the trigger being touched
You could certainly be correct, but if that's the case, Oswald put on an incredibly good bumbling idiot act for a good 15 years before the assasination
The problem is there were three shots. It would have required an impossible coordination for multiple shots from different locations to come off as three shots. Nobody, that is nobody, heard a shot from the Secret Service.
As hard as it is to believe the President was murdered by a single nut. The incredible, and they are incredible, theories of conspiracies have no evidence to support them. I will not suspend belief in reality to buy any of them.
Yet somehow garnered top security clearance at an airbase in Japan.
Dig just a bit deeper. Oswald was an intelligence plant.
I would have to go back and reread Wecht's stuff, but my recollection was that his objections were mostly over the "magic bullet theory" and not the fatal head shot.
Again, it was NOT a "top" security clearance. It was a routine Confidential level clearance that every single member of his unit would have had.
"Out of the four official examinations into the Kennedy Assassination, Wecht is the only forensic pathologist who has disagreed with the conclusion that both the single bullet theory and Kennedy's head wounds are mutually consistent." Wikipedia, so you know it is true!
My dear neighbor served in Vietnam and had a similar security clearance. He was a sweet man, but dumb as a stump. They hand those clearances out like potato chips. Does anyone seriously think the Soviets would have let Oswald come and go if he possessed special knowledge of anything? They shipped him off to work in a city in the provinces, where he would be less of a problem with his inflated ego and twisted sense of self. They sized him up as a nut case and trouble and they were right.
An interesting read. Easily refutable.
Start with Dr. Wecht on forensics and work outwards.
There is mountains of evidence of a conspiracy. Including eyewitness testimony. No need to cherry pick items and concoct a laughable narrative (like magic bullet - totally impossible).
Added to this, there are reams of circumstantial evidence that would have exonerated Oswald. Or at least reduced his charges to co-conspirator.
By the way, if you know where the President’s brain is, raise your hand. You will be in very selective company.
I have no doubt that Wecht is a smart guy, and obviously qualified to have an opinion. The problem comes in when it comes to motive. Do I think Wecht is lying? No.
But you don't get on TV to discuss the Jon Benet Ramsey case by agreeing with the Warren Commission. There is incentive for him to have an alternative theory.
Are his motives pure? I have no idea.....
The only conspiracy theory is the “lone nutter” - laughable by modern CSI standards.
That is not required at all. There were many plans in place - all with similar MOs..in Chicago, in Florida…with arrests all part of the public record. You just need to dig a teeny bit.
Lots of layers to this case. But there was clear motives, capability, witnesses, forensics, and mountains of supporting circumstantial evidence.
Read up on it. Go to Dallas. Talk to witnesses.
100% a conspiracy. 100%
Fascinating subject. Changed the trajectory of the USA and the World. Not for the better.
The theory is that Oswald fired the first two and the secret service fired the third. I'm not sure what the coordination is. If true, the secret service shot was accidental when the car suddenly sped up.
This theory doesn't claim conspiracy to assassinate JFK, but does claim cover up after the fact. I'm not stating that this theory is absolutely gospel - just an interesting theory that could be plausible.
The magic bullet isn't so magic. Here's the diagram that the conspiracy theorists love to show:
In reality, if you move Connally slightly inboard, and have him turn slightly to the rear, as evidenced by photographic evidence, the "magic" bullet looks like this:
There's really nothing at all magic about it, and there are just as many mountains of evidence supporting it.
I did all those things you say to do. Guess what? I eventually realized they were blowing smoke up my *** with their nonsense.
PBS did a show on this years ago. They showed that the angles and positioning were perfect for this result. Somehow the conspiracy theorists ignore all this and continue to beat the same busted drum.
But yet emerged pristine. I have swamp land in Florida if you are interested.
And they refer to "eyewitness" testimony that doesn't match the testimony given in the immediate aftermath of the event. People suddenly remember things differently... when it appears they can make some money from it.
The lone nutter conspiracy theorists are effective smoke blowers. Their evidence is severely lacking to say the very least.
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And Santa Claus told me if I am a good boy I will get a Lightning Glider sled.
Pristine? The bullet is flattened on one side from impact with bone.
Not true at all. There were numerous cases of testimony that was taken immediately and then suppressed.
In addition, many of these witnesses were subsequently threatened. All easily discoverable . Many also met untimely demises (dozens+).
If you know anything about ballistics (I trust you do not), this is a complete joke to think that very, very slight change would have been cause by the magic bullet is hand slapping ludicrous.
Ask Dr. Wecht.
Ask the Doctors in the ER?
What would they know?!
As did many bullets fired into cadavers to try to prove or disprove the theory....
And it is not pristine. The lead core is exposed from fairly significant flattening of the bullet. Not coincidentally, the fragments removed from Connally's wrist wound were found to be lead, not copper.
Did he “defect” to our #1 enemy and come back with a bride? And then hang out with known CIA employees?
Didn’t think so.
OK, if we are treading into the witness "mystery deaths" we are venturing into lunacy territory. Seriously.
When there is a top murder care in the country for past 60 years, who was turned to? Not the two people who conducted their very first autopsy on JFK!
How about the ER doctors? All are mistaken I guess.
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