Are you done with Franklin?

Are you done with Franklin?

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    Votes: 19 14.6%
  • No

    Votes: 111 85.4%

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laKavosiey-st lion

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My bad since you watched the DVR you must have seen all of the wide open WR's he just missed. It was odd as I saw our WR's blanketed, but maybe the replay I watched was different. He didn't play his best game, but blaming him when the WR's get zero separation and the only one who can make a contested catch is 44. Then you had the ball at the goal line to Nick which was an off throw but clearly catchable. Drew has some room to grow, but I'm not sure who else you want at QB. I know he could have hit any of those WR's last night for tOSU, but then again they are NFL guys, not MAC level guys.
He missed badly and at a high percentage to anyone he was throwing too. He had an awful game.

you don’t agree?
 

LaJollaCreek

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And that throw was easy and no one in front of him towards the throw and no pressure and that throw sucked like at least 6-8 others.

he had an awful game. Do you disagree?
He has bad WR's, Do you disagree? That ball in spite of the throw was still catchable and Nick himself stated this....but you just need to keep going on about it. You can tell me how much he sucks when he is in the NFL and you're still posting online thinking you're a genius. Show me all of these pics of wide open WR's he missed.....anytime...he threw to them 10 times so I'm expecting at least 5 open shots....I'll wait. He didn't have a great game, but he didn't let a backup QB march down and get a FG before half of let ND march down and score to tie it to open the second half. He didn't fall down in coverage for a 75 yard TD either.

I'm not sure why people like yourself feel the need to single one guy out on a team sport like you're Gods gift to this site and we just don't understand your aol genius.
 

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I see you are still suffering from the concussive effects of your "deep dive" into the shallow end of the pool.
But it's OK.
Playoffs games aren't big anymore....only certain ones...unless you lose. The mental gymnastics are fun to watch though.
 

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I see you are still suffering from the concussive effects of your "deep dive" into the shallow end of the pool.
But it's OK.
Numbers say 0-3. Can’t argue it. Let’s just wait for the two guaranteed losses next year and see what happens at Iowa. Never got a reply, we make the playoffs if we add Iowa to the 2 guaranteed losses?
 

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He has bad WR's, Do you disagree? That ball in spite of the throw was still catchable and Nick himself stated this....but you just need to keep going on about it. You can tell me how much he sucks when he is in the NFL and you're still posting online thinking you're a genius. Show me all of these pics of wide open WR's he missed.....anytime...he threw to them 10 times so I'm expecting at least 5 open shots....I'll wait. He didn't have a great game, but he didn't let a backup QB march down and get a FG before half of let ND march down and score to tie it to open the second half. He didn't fall down in coverage for a 75 yard TD either.

I'm not sure why people like yourself feel the need to single one guy out on a team sport like you're Gods gift to this site and we just don't understand your aol genius.
Christ lajolla. I said the wr were not open. There were 7-9 throws to be made to any type of receiver that were reasonably open. Some would have been good to great throws, he missed them. A couple were easy throws, he missed them especially the throw too singleton

Our qb played so poorly that it is clear he was the primary reason they lost. Sry to hurt anyone’s feelings. Yes it a team game duh. But the player at by far the most important position failed that day.

I don’t hate him. I hope he gets better (cough….footwork….cough) next year and he likely will.

Wait’ll next year!!
 
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Christ lajolla. I said the wr were not open. There were 7-9 throws to made to any type of receiver that was reasonably open. Some would have been good to great throws, he missed them. A couple were easy throws, he missed them especially to throw too singleton

Our qb played so poorly that it is clear he was the primary reason they lost. Sry to hurt anyone’s feelings. Yes it a team game duh. But the player at by far the most important position failed that day.

I don’t hate him. I hope he gets better (cough….footwork….cough) next year and he likely will.

Wait’ll next year!!
He played damn bad. Cost himself $$. $ he can earn back next season but he’s gonna have to do it 3 places, OSU game, o game and at Iowa. Like me, nfl GMs don’t attend blue hen games.
 

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Christ lajolla. I said the wr were not open. There were 7-9 throws to be made to any type of receiver that were reasonably open. Some would have been good to great throws, he missed them. A couple were easy throws, he missed them especially the throw too singleton

Our qb played so poorly that it is clear he was the primary reason they lost. Sry to hurt anyone’s feelings. Yes it a team game duh. But the player at by far the most important position failed that day.

I don’t hate him. I hope he gets better (cough….footwork….cough) next year and he likely will.

Wait’ll next year!!
Whatever. So the WR’s weren’t open and a QB looked bad against a good team. Wow! Shocked. He wasn’t the primary reason why we lost. If you need to think that you go ahead. it’s refreshing knowing those young men have a better grasp on things than some of the PSU fans.


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He is without question the primary reason we lost.
No he isn't, but the more you say it the more you will believe it. A QB/offense without WR's who can get open is handicapped, but you apparently don't understand this. PSU has some really crappy fans who always need ONE scapegoat in a team game and a need to boast about it on repeat...it is what it is. I mean you couldn't even offer up any evidence the WR's weren't blanketed all night, not even one example...never mind 5 or more out of the 10 throws their way. I can find tons from the other night where tOSU WR's were open by 3-4 yards, but then again they have NFL ready WR's, PSU did not. I know why you cannot find the open PSU WR's on DVR, but I was just hoping maybe I could get you to exercise a little thought. You offer nothing to me in terms of value in your opinions so you won't be missed by me.

The ball awareness here is off the charts, he was looking back just prior to this and made zero effort to contest this catch. Instead he ducked out of the way. Just what any good WR would do.
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This was basically throws 2 and 3 to Harrison as the coverage was identical for both, notice the great separation he has. That is sarcasm. I could go on with every throw to the WR's but 3 of the first 3...clearly the WR's were great and Drew was the only reason PSU lost. Good call. No doubt he missed a couple as every QB does, but the WR play was abysmal all year.
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Yeah I’m a crappy fan because I have the opinion that an awful performance by the third year guy (who made plays all year while having the same substandard we group as part of his arsenal but didn’t near enough in this game whether to the wr group or to OTHER receivers) at the most important position on a team that was better than the other team in the two most position groups (the lines) was ultimately the primary (biggest? Most important?) reason they ultimately lost the game.

I’m done here but yes I’m also right.

waitll next year!
 

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I starting to wonder if you’re messing with us. 15 played an awful game.
Not at all. I’m saying there are reasons QB’s struggle too. The pics don’t lie. Maybe you guys think the WR play was great and it was just the QB. Seems to be the case. More than 1 thing can be true but pinning that loss on 15 alone is beyond stupid even for you.

QB’s with no threat from the WR’s is clearly the way to succeed at QB and offense in general. Meanwhile Howard is hitting guys in tons of green space against that same D. Man if only we could tell the difference between the the WR’s at tOSU and PSU. Clearly they are all equal and it was just the QB. Harrison and Wallace are elite first round picks, my bad.

WR catches for the WR Unit in the only games that count to you. Man that production is through the roof. 3.6 catches per game in our biggest games.

ND 0 QB's fault is what I'm being told.
Boise 5 Not one WR, 5 for the Unit.
SMU 5 Not one WR, 5 for the Unit.
Oregon 5 Tez Johnson alone had 11 for Oregon.
tOSU 3 OSU had 11
 
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Imagine how good we would be if we projected as much hate on the opponent as we do on each other.

Then again, maybe our opponents aren’t this stupid.

o_O
 

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So 15 played a good game. Got it
I found this
12-23, 135 Yds, 1 Int
Did the receivers throw that pick? Prob would have been better to go to OT. Hero ball fail shown 15 lost the game all by himself
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So 15 played a good game. Got it
No he didn't play his best game, but 15 isn't the sole reason PSU lost which is also true and my original point. Let me dumb this down for you even more using your own words.

So the WR's were open all night, played great, QB just missed them and they were great just as they were all year. Got it. They are the best WR's in the B1G, maybe the nation.

Here are there catches in big games Mr Numbers guy. Facts and real numbers along with pics kind of paint a bigger picture.

ND 0 QB's fault only is what I'm being told.
Boise 5 Not one WR, 5 for the Unit.
SMU 5 Not one WR, 5 for the Unit.
Oregon 5 Tez Johnson alone had 11 for Oregon.
tOSU 3 OSU had 11
 
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No he didn't play his best game, but 15 isn't the sole reason PSU lost which is also true and my original point. Let me dumb this down for you even more using your own words.

So the WR's were open all night, played great, QB just missed them and they were great just as they were all year. Got it. They are the best WR's in the B1G, maybe the nation.

Here are there catches in big games Mr Numbers guy. Facts and real numbers along with pics kind of paint a bigger picture.

ND 0 QB's fault only is what I'm being told.
Boise 5 Not one WR, 5 for the Unit.
SMU 5 Not one WR, 5 for the Unit.
Oregon 5 Tez Johnson alone had 11 for Oregon.
tOSU 3 OSU had 11

Allar was considered all-world coming out of high school. Sadly, he hasn’t had one reliable WR in his time at PSU. That likely doesn’t explain everything about his play, but it has to affect his confidence. Football experts (not us) talk about trust between a QB and his WRs. I have to believe that Allar hasn’t had that with his WRs the past two years.
 
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Allar was considered all-world coming out of high school. Sadly, he hasn’t had one reliable WR in his time at PSU. That likely doesn’t explain everything about his play, but it has to affect his confidence. Football experts (not us) talk about trust between a QB and his WRs. I have to believe that Allar hasn’t had that with his WRs the past two years.
Drew still has room to grow, he is 20. He didn't play lights out against ND, nobody is even saying that. What some might argue is maybe the WR's play isn't exactly up to par. OSU had WR's open by 5 yards on simple crossing patterns. J Smith went in motion, came out of it and walked into the endzone. People ask what is the difference between PSU and OSU the last couple of years.....if you cannot see it or know by now I don't know what to tell you. Tez Johnson torched our pretty good D for 11 catches, that is 2-3 games worth for our entire WR unit. I do understand he and AK leaned on Warren too, they did, but there was a reason for that too. You get an AA TE that makes contested catches, gets open, and can truck people...yeah...you go there.
 

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Allar was considered all-world coming out of high school. Sadly, he hasn’t had one reliable WR in his time at PSU. That likely doesn’t explain everything about his play, but it has to affect his confidence. Football experts (not us) talk about trust between a QB and his WRs. I have to believe that Allar hasn’t had that with his WRs the past two years.
I think we need to make a change for a new internet Wide Recievers coach. Bob, you just aren't getting the job done.

Thanks for your service and we wish you good luch down the road. Our HR department will provide you with your exit package and security will escort you off this message board.

Good luck to you.
 
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Allar was considered all-world coming out of high school. Sadly, he hasn’t had one reliable WR in his time at PSU. That likely doesn’t explain everything about his play, but it has to affect his confidence. Football experts (not us) talk about trust between a QB and his WRs. I have to believe that Allar hasn’t had that with his WRs the past two years.


And its all the fans fault because they won't give up their lattes and scones to give that money to some NIL dark hole.
 
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Whatever. So the WR’s weren’t open and a QB looked bad against a good team. Wow! Shocked. He wasn’t the primary reason why we lost. If you need to think that you go ahead. it’s refreshing knowing those young men have a better grasp on things than some of the PSU fans.


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I continue to be amazed at the fact that Notre Dame lost two OL in the first half and went into the game down another OL starter and we could not control their offense better. Giving up those two marches in the "middle 8 minutes" kept the game on a razor's edge. Our QB play was disappointing, but the loss was multi-factorial.
 

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Drew still has room to grow, he is 20. He didn't play lights out against ND, nobody is even saying that. What some might argue is maybe the WR's play isn't exactly up to par. OSU had WR's open by 5 yards on simple crossing patterns. J Smith went in motion, came out of it and walked into the endzone. People ask what is the difference between PSU and OSU the last couple of years.....if you cannot see it or know by now I don't know what to tell you. Tez Johnson torched our pretty good D for 11 catches, that is 2-3 games worth for our entire WR unit. I do understand he and AK leaned on Warren too, they did, but there was a reason for that too. You get an AA TE that makes contested catches, gets open, and can truck people...yeah...you go there.
Room to grow? Indeed. Recognized by those who count: his family, his coaches, and the NFL. He's very young in age and maturity. Acts like it and appears that way to objective observers. And we are lucky to have him.
 
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I think we need to make a change for a new internet Wide Recievers coach. Bob, you just aren't getting the job done.

Thanks for your service and we wish you good luch down the road. Our HR department will provide you with your exit package and security will escort you off this message board.

Good luck to you.

This is very disappointing. Like any quality interwebs coach, I made no contributions and complained early and often. That should have been rewarded.
 

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I continue to be amazed at the fact that Notre Dame lost two OL in the first half and went into the game down another OL starter and we could not control their offense better. Giving up those two marches in the "middle 8 minutes" kept the game on a razor's edge. Our QB play was disappointing, but the loss was multi-factorial.
The FG before the half with a backup QB really swapped the momentum as ND had NONE up to that point. Then they come out and tie the game immediately on the first drive. To me the PRIMARY reason PSU lost that game was the drive before and immediately after the half. Cam slipping sucks, but that does happen from DB's from time to time. QB's miss throws. 15 wasn't incredible, but pinning that loss on him just lacks any merit to be honest. Hell had Abdul been able to maintain that fumble it's either 17 or 13-0 going into the half. That milk is spilled, but I'm not pinning it on any one player as there are too many plays that impacted that outcome.
 

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And it’s all the fans fault because they won't give up their lattes and scones to give that money to some NIL dark hole.

Give up lattes and scones? You’re asking a lot. In that case, I accept that we will never be T™️osu.