Are you done with Franklin?

Are you done with Franklin?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 14.6%
  • No

    Votes: 111 85.4%

  • Total voters
    130
  • Poll closed .

LaJollaCreek

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This thread, now 7 pages, is living proof that the “10-2 is great” crowd were absolutely full of crap all of these seasons.

Sean Clifford never delivered a single playoff game, let alone a win. Drew gave you three games and two wins, yet I see him getting scoffed at while James is getting praised for the exact same accomplishments by the 10-2 is awesome crowd. Sick.
Did you stomp your feet too?

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laKavosiey-st lion

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Lest we forget, we were underdogs 3 times this season and went……drum roll….0-3. Super fun format, I enjoyed it lots, but nothing changed. We are who we thought we are :)
 
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LaJollaCreek

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So, we were 13-0 when we were overdogs?
No, we weren't dogs to ND, we went in as a 1 point favorite there late as the line changed. When you can only talk about losses to top 5 teams you need to have some leeway to make a any type of argument this program is in a bad spot currently. Again the same people crying the loudest are upset because PSU isn't playing for a MNC tonight, but are too stupid to realize we are way off better than most were this year. Woe is PSU...such heros of fans to standby a perennial top 10 program who made it to the semis in the first fulll year of playoffs.....let's make a change for the 10-15% of knuckle draggers though who think they are on to something. The dude talks out of both sides of his arse....fraud.
 
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Not our job. Don’t be ascared of change. The good news is we can still make a run with our 2 guaranteed losses. As far as I’m concerned big game Jim is almost a non issue.
As I look at the schedule the next 3 years, we don’t have 3 guaranteed losses, only 2. When USC becomes a guaranteed loss is anyone’s guess, but sooner or later they will be.
Hmmm. Interesting point. USC and their 100 million dollar coach will eventually get it done despite very mixed results so far. I guess we won't see any further improvement?

Franklin has done well and the facilities, relationship with admin, and management of the roster is now as good as one might reasonably expect. The team made the final four. I would say he is about as entrenched as any coach has a right to be.
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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No, we weren't dogs to ND, we went in as a 1 point favorite there late as the line changed. When you can only talk about losses to top 5 teams you need to have some leeway to make an any type of argument this program is in a bad spot currently. Again the same people crying the loudest are upset because PSU isn't playing for a MNC tonight, but are too stupid to realize we are way off better than most were this year. Woe is PSU...such heros of fans to standby a perennial top 10 program who made it to the semis in the first fulll year of playoffs.....let's make a change for the 10-15% of knuckle draggers though who think they are on to something. The dude talks out of both sides of his arse....fraud.
Dogs the entire time until a few hours before the game. I’m keeping the stat
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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No, we weren't dogs to ND, we went in as a 1 point favorite there late as the line changed. When you can only talk about losses to top 5 teams you need to have some leeway to make a any type of argument this program is in a bad spot currently. Again the same people crying the loudest are upset because PSU isn't playing for a MNC tonight, but are too stupid to realize we are way off better than most were this year. Woe is PSU...such heros of fans to standby a perennial top 10 program who made it to the semis in the first fulll year of playoffs.....let's make a change for the 10-15% of knuckle draggers though who think they are on to something. The dude talks out of both sides of his arse....fraud.
Was Coach 0-3 this year v favs or not? Numbers be numbers.
I see 2 guaranteed losses next year and 1 playoff win. Not too shabby. Question, if we lose to Iowa, do we make the playoffs?
 

LaJollaCreek

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Was Coach 0-3 this year v favs or not? Numbers be numbers.
I see 2 guaranteed losses next year and 1 playoff win. Not too shabby. Question, if we lose to Iowa, do we make the playoffs?
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Go Blue Hens!!!! As far as Iowa goes maybe you'll get lucky and they get a W so you can try to puff our your chest on how bad a coach PSU has....even though he just keeps winning and winning. For such an awful coach man does he win a lot of games. 13 this year.
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Go Blue Hens!!!! As far as Iowa goes maybe you'll get lucky and they get a W so you can try to puff our your chest on how bad a coach PSU has....even though he just keeps winning and winning. For such an awful coach man does he win a lot of games. 13 this year.
Sigh. This new format is so great for big game Jim, I dig it the most. See you in Seattle?
 

Marshall2323

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Was Coach 0-3 this year v favs or not? Numbers be numbers.
I see 2 guaranteed losses next year and 1 playoff win. Not too shabby. Question, if we lose to Iowa, do we make the playoffs?
If PSU manages to lose several of the games in which they are favored, how many big games will there be?
 

Moogy

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This thread, now 7 pages, is living proof that the “10-2 is great” crowd were absolutely full of crap all of these seasons.

Sean Clifford never delivered a single playoff game, let alone a win. Drew gave you three games and two wins, yet I see him getting scoffed at while James is getting praised for the exact same accomplishments by the 10-2 is awesome crowd. Sick.

Wut? You should try your extremist whining again ... but this time make sense.
 

Nitt1300

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This thread, now 7 pages, is living proof that the “10-2 is great” crowd were absolutely full of crap all of these seasons.

Sean Clifford never delivered a single playoff game, let alone a win. Drew gave you three games and two wins, yet I see him getting scoffed at while James is getting praised for the exact same accomplishments by the 10-2 is awesome crowd. Sick.
well, no- and no
 

MacNit

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It may be difficult for you to comprehend but I think Joe was the greatest educator/coach (in any sport) of all time. Holding Joe in the highest regard does not preclude having respect for what James Franklin has done.
Even the most ardent Joe supporters recognize that when BOB and then Franklin came along.....many things were in need of improvement. Coaches salaries and facilities to name two.
Easy for me to comprehend.

I respect what Franklin has done. But I believe he has proven that his ceiling has been reached. I am far from alone in that opinion. It is a runaway majority opinion.

Will only get tougher as I think it is almost universally accepted that Frankin is not a good Xs & Os guy. Probably why you never hear his name as rumored to get a HC position in NFL.

As the final steps are completed in making CFB an NFL minor league, this will make it even tougher from Franklin teams to compete.

As for Joe, I just like to remind the uninformed just how great he was…kind of like you like to repeat xxxx more years for Franklin.

I part company with you in that I believe Franklin has had plenty of time to prove he can take the program to next level. Nothing to be ashamed of, but it is what it is.

He has come up short - primarily in failing in over 95% of the big games he has coached - including a complete failure in establishing the ability to win a big game on the road. This is not my opinion - this is a fact.

Time for someone else to get a chance.
 

MacNit

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You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Go Blue Hens!!!! As far as Iowa goes maybe you'll get lucky and they get a W so you can try to puff our your chest on how bad a coach PSU has....even though he just keeps winning and winning. For such an awful coach man does he win a lot of games. 13 this year.
Was he “winning and winning” in 2020, 2021?

Who have we beaten? No one.
 

Marshall2323

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Easy for me to comprehend.

I respect what Franklin has done. But I believe he has proven that his ceiling has been reached. I am far from alone in that opinion. It is a runaway majority opinion.

Will only get tougher as I think it is almost universally accepted that Frankin is not a good Xs & Os guy. Probably why you never hear his name as rumored to get a HC position in NFL.

As the final steps are completed in making CFB an NFL minor league, this will make it even tougher from Franklin teams to compete.

As for Joe, I just like to remind the uninformed just how great he was…kind of like you like to repeat xxxx more years for Franklin.

I part company with you in that I believe Franklin has had plenty of time to prove he can take the program to next level. Nothing to be ashamed of, but it is what it is.

He has come up short - primarily in failing in over 95% of the big games he has coached - including a complete failure in establishing the ability to win a big game on the road. This is not my opinion - this is a fact.

Time for someone else to get a chance.
So replacing Franklin is "a runaway majority opinion?" LOL "It's time to give someone else a chance." What is this ? Mommy its my turn! LOL
 

Marshall2323

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Six is not enough…make it 16…by then maybe Penn State will win a single game against Ohio State!
Will beating Ohio State increase the size of your Penis?
Lot's of teams and coaches don't beat Ohio State.
I'll take 34-13 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Is the overwhelming majority of ND fans calling for Freeman's head? Cause Franklin and Freeman's records the past three years are identical.
Good thing the people who have a grasp of reality and the power, will give both extensions.