LOL, you guys are so close though...I mean it's coming any day now Felecia. He probably gets fired today when they see your genius Ricker. Top 4 team was a rough year for you knobs....Loving it. 111 -19
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Are you done with Franklin?
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Look at the greatest seasons thread minus undefeated and MNC teams. All Paterno’s teams. If listed a top 10, 9 of 10.
laKa, aka The Dick ... why are you wasting time trolling as if you're a 15-year-old? Don't you have a full-time job to get to in your "retirement"?
It didn’t work for me in 2016. I thought for sure that Grant Haley would make it happen. Nope.
Go state go 0-3 v big boysLOL, you guys are so close though...I mean it's coming any day now Felecia. He probably gets fired today when they see your genius Ricker. Top 4 team was a rough year for you knobs....Loving it. 111 -19
Keep crying....you're little whiny tears taste delicious and JF will still be coach next year. Preseason top 5 or so probably next year too.....oh that has to hurt. Maybe he can lose to Rutgers for you guys.
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Most everything you mention is true...the angst you speak of derives not from loses from being the lesser team, but from questionable events during games. It is acceptable to lose to a superior team with a superior gameplan....however losing because of headscratching decisions is heartbreaking. When you are winning the flow of the contest...make the other team stop you! Don't stop yourself.... Don't abandon what works!
P.S. Name calling doesn't make your post better....more so you lose credibility.
P.S. Not sure which name was called, but I think the Ricker can handle it. Last night Freeman went for 3 down 16 with 8 to go....dumb move, but nobody here will say a word as they aren't looking at that microscope. Any PSU fans that feel PSU is in a bad spot should from a health of the program standpoint should be called out for their utter stupidity. Just like those that threatened Day and his family....every fanbase has knuckle draggers and if you don't call them out they actually start to believe the BS they post. Sorry....but not really sorry if I'm being honest.
When PSU starts to spend like tOSU maybe I'll get upset more, but that isn't the case. The reality is they spend more to get better players and that is why they win MNC's and beat PSU. Saying fire coach is great, but it really is meaningless right now to do so with where the program is. So if they want to litter the board with nonsense that won't occur...I think laughing at them for trolling is perfectly acceptable.
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0-3 ain’t greatKeep crying....you're little whiny tears taste delicious and JF will still be coach next year. Preseason top 5 or so probably next year too.....oh that has to hurt. Maybe he can lose to Rutgers for you guys.
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13-3 isn't great, but it's pretty good. Top 4 out of 130 or so is pretty good too. Is today the day you get him fired? I'm just waiting and it's not happening. I'm sure it's in the works. Since all of the money isn't behind him, how comes you guys haven't bought out his contract yet? SEC has real fans that get rid of dead weight coaches....you guys just cry online.
Yeah...first thing I think of when it comes to your posting is being a real numbers man. I thought you were Urschel in disguise for a while.
2025 Way-Too-Early Top 25: Where do Ohio State and Notre Dame rank?
The season has just ended, but that won't stop Mark Schlabach from ranking the 25 best teams for next season.
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Since 2014 - when CJF first got here:
OSU has 125 wins
Oregon has 100 wins (87 in the PAC 12)
Michigan and Penn State - 99 wins (ane one could argue Michigan cheated to get several of those, and Penn State was handcuffed with sanctions at the onset).
Iowa has 94 wins
Your comment about CJF's record against top 10 teams is not incorrect. But neither is his record overall. I don't think your dive was as deep as you might think it is.
It is not an issue of the numbers however - it's which numbers you want to hang your hat on.
Discuss quietly amongst yourselves.
It's crazy he's right there with UM and Oregon in spite of the s**t sandwich he was dealt.
Frankly (pun intended), he has done more with less than Michigan since he has been here. I can't really take Oregon's numbers seriously, because they were in the PAC 12 and it's not comparing apples to apples in terms of success.
OSU is probably the most consisently elite program in CFB since 2001. Alabama has more NCs, but they were dormant for a long time before Saban. Clemson and Georgia have shown flashes and are probably "right there" with OSU but not as consistent over the long run. Prior to 2001, OSU was really good, but became elite once Tressel got there (2001).
Since that time, PSU and Michigan have defeated OSU five times (Michigan with the last four). Only Clemson has defeated OSU more than twice in that same time span - no one else has.
Since PSU joined the conference in 1993, OSU has 212 wins, PSU has 178. (Yeah, I know - down years, but that is the difference between elite and consistent vs everyone else). Even when OSU has a down year (2011), they come back to form quickly. OSU gets the players/has the money, etc because they have the culture within the AD and the University. There is a reason they are consistently the AD that generates the most revenue of any college AD. ($250MM vs PSU's $170MM in the last year available if memory serves).
Franklin's biggest problem is that his poor record is primarily OSU (and a couple of other programs), and that the consistently best team in CFB and a University with the best culture, over the last 25 years, is right in his backyard.
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Your comment about CJF's record against top 10 teams is not incorrect. But neither is his record overall. I don't think your dive was as deep as you might think it is.
i guess I don’t care about 2 things. Piling up wins v blue hens, who cares. Piling up stats v blue hens. We had a GREAT d first 7 weeks, cause we played patsys. Imo, without tears or any angst at all, the only wins that matter, the only games that matter are v the big boys. They are the most fun to watch and they are the most fun to win.
You want to drive up to the FIU game next sept or the O game. Why'd you pick O?
i guess I don’t care about 2 things. Piling up wins v blue hens, who cares. Piling up stats v blue hens. We had a GREAT d first 7 weeks, cause we played patsys. Imo, without tears or any angst at all, the only wins that matter, the only games that matter are v the big boys. They are the most fun to watch and they are the most fun to win.
You want to drive up to the FIU game next sept or the O game. Why'd you pick O?
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I loved Joe as much as anybody. He was regularly outcoached by Kirk Ferentz. Glenn Mason took him to school a few (couple?) of times. He couldn’t beat Lloyd Carr. What was his record against Ohio State the last dozen or so years of his career?
Ohio State is a better football program than PSU.
This year, they were better than everyone.
I'll enjoy the 13 wins. Choosing to dwell on the 3 losses is its own reward.
This year, they were better than everyone.
I'll enjoy the 13 wins. Choosing to dwell on the 3 losses is its own reward.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Franklin and the coaching staff did a remarkable job this year. This team overcame a lot of adversity and like you said, we were in every game they lost to the end. Even though this team had a lot of heart and some great NFL talent, just like the last number of years there were some talent gaps they just could not overcome. For a few years, it was the OL. The OL improved all season and became a strength by the end of the season. On the other hand, I have never seen a team struggle so mightily to get a pass completed to a WR. I know the team compensated by getting the ball to TEs and RBs but you won't consistently beat the best of the best without WRs. Heck, they are 30 or 40% of the entire offensive personnel. I know they blocked pretty well but separation, being a threat, and actually making plays; where were they? Since this problem was over a couple of offensive coordinators I assume the issue was recruiting, talent, and WR coaching. What was the difference in the game when ND was trying to claw their way back into the game? Jeremiah Smith blew by the defense. We didn't have that all season except for a couple of plays and that's the difference between us and OSU and Oregon. At the playoff level, you need all the pieces. Frankly, I was extremely pleased with Franklin this season. He put the team in a position to win every game and they almost did it.
On the WR's. Last night tOSU's 20 million dollar roster had WR's open by 2-3 yards on most throws. Our WR's could not get ANY separation at all. That was the biggest difference between the 2 programs the last 2 years...WR play at tOSU is a clear step above anyone else right now. They will probably bring in 2 more top 10 WR's each year and that gap is what setting this offense from being really dynamic. QB, OL, TE, and RB are all there.
I think CJF's best WR group was in 2016 - which, conversely, was a horrible OL group- mostly due to the remnants of the sanctions and scholarship reductions.
The QB cannot get separation for WR’s or make contested catches. Just look at the size and build of tOSU’s WR’s, you don’t see a difference? In most years, yes on QB. Not this year.
Sry unsure about the qb. Watched the dvr and it confirmed to me how bad he was in the nd game I watched there. And on the huge screens where every down was on replay.
True, but he can also throw the ball away if the play isn't there rather than trying to force it.
My bad since you watched the DVR you must have seen all of the wide open WR's he just missed. It was odd as I saw our WR's blanketed, but maybe the replay I watched was different. He didn't play his best game, but blaming him when the WR's get zero separation and the only one who can make a contested catch is 44. Then you had the ball at the goal line to Nick which was an off throw but clearly catchable. Drew has some room to grow, but I'm not sure who else you want at QB. I know he could have hit any of those WR's last night for tOSU, but then again they are NFL guys, not MAC level guys.
I don't believe OSU receivers dropped anything, and on some low passes too. Passes in the flat and mid range were accurate. With the exception of OSU's last drive very few deep balls,( no chunk play mentality last night ) and the QB spread the wealth.
OSU did excellent in the portal, Judkins, Downs, and Howard were home run hires, i'm sure they will repeat the process and increase
the donations this year again.
The one thing thing that jumps out with their WR's is the size and build they have. Tate, Egbuka, and Williams all look like NFL WR's physically right now. If you put those 3 beside Wallace, Clifford, and Evans......it's not a hard long look to figure out which ones are which if you lined them all up. I'm not saying every WR has to be a monster as smaller WR's can excel, but they are bigger, faster, and better. Do I like that...not at all. Is it the truth...100% IMO.
I am old enough to rember when the idea of OSU having a strong passing game was a foreign concept.
You're a bit skewed here. The throw to Nick was horrendous, and it would have been a miracle catch if he got it. Running one direction and catching a short pass (little reaction time) outside your back knee is a magic trick, not a catch. That was brutal because it's such an easy throw to make, as well. There were a number of instances where WRs were open and he never looked to them, he was late to react, and by the time he did, they were covered, or he just put the ball in the wrong spots. The WRs take a ton of abuse, but it's a combination of horribly drawn up plays, poorly called plays, bad decision making by Drew, bad execution by Drew, and bad WR play. Finding one person, or group of people to place blame on is just a cop out.
I remember one play that was posted on twitter with the narrative that the WRs stunk, and weren't even running/trying. Except the reality of that play was it had 2 WRs running slant-ins at the exact same depth, meaning they'd eventually hit each other in the middle of the field if they kept going. And they both had a man on them, AND there was an LB just literally sitting in the middle of the field, right where they were going to converge. The one WR was actually open early in his cut, and he saw the LB just waiting where he was going, so he essentially sat for a second (slow jog), waiting for Allar to find him and make the throw. Allar was busy looking elsewhere, or didn't compute that he was that open ... and the guy eventually started going again, at which point Allar tried to make a really tough throw into traffic. So, unless the WRs just ran the wrong routes, or ran them poorly (wrong depth), that play looked like a combination of being poorly drawn up, and poorly executed by the QB, with the WR actually trying to make a smart play, and, yet, the WR was still taking heat.
Nick had as much chance to catch that pass as you have of having a 3-way with Ana de Armas and Gal Gadot.
Singleton owned it and said he should have caught the ball. He said coaches throw him 10 bad balls every practice…
Of course he did! He's not going to say "bad pass" or "I had no shot." Oy. I'm going to throw you that pass 1,000 ... and allow you to use superglue, and you still won't catch it. It was at his knees, outside his back knee as he's running the opposite direction. It's virtually impossible to snag that. It's much much easier to perform one of those circus catches where you stretch out fully and nab a bad pass high and outside with one hand than to pull off what he tried to pull off.
That was 100% on Allar for throwing an absolute duck on one of the easiest throws he will have.