Cut out the lights. The party is over!!!

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There is absolutely nothing in "the land of fruits and nuts" that I need bad enough to make me go there and I don't want them to hear about our $2.46 gas here and potentially influence them to come here.
 

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Well yeah. Just don't **** up what he is inheriting and the metrics will be great. Getting out the way shouldn't be hard but will he and the admin's egos allow themselves to do so or are they going to make giant changes to tax/tarriffs fo show off how smart they are? There really isn't any telling bc there is no predicting what they will do and won't have a congress that challenges any idea that comes up.

Maybe I'm wrong but if you could point me to any republican platform that he hasn't disavowed so I can get an expectation of what his admin will actually look like that'd be swell....
I'm pretty sure if you can remember 2017 thru 2020 but subtract the constant undermining by communists you can figure out what the next 4 will look like. If you can't remember Google it.
 
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All I asked for was what the Trump admin is planing on given they will have all 3 branches of govt. That should be easy to do for any well informed supporter of a well prepared admin. Show me the details. Not the goals. The plan. 26 isn't too far away and the voters have demanded cheap ****. Let's get after it and see what's going to change shortly.
I can’t tell you his actual plans other than we’ve seen him work for 4 years and outside of the largest and worst pandemic ever it was pretty GD good

if things get worse or stay the same, I’ll admit

I was too young to vote for bill Clinton but in hindsight he was a pretty damn good president even though he doesn’t totally align with my values on many thing.

Speaking of rapist and womanizer.
 
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All I asked for was what the Trump admin is planing on given they will have all 3 branches of govt. That should be easy to do for any well informed supporter of a well prepared admin. Show me the details. Not the goals. The plan. 26 isn't too far away and the voters have demanded cheap ****. Let's get after it and see what's going to change shortly.
Haven't you read Project 2025? I haven't, but according to journalists, he's going to put them in internment camps. I was on the fence about voting at all this election but when I heard that I went out and voted for Trump multiple times.
 

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Well yeah. Just don't **** up what he is inheriting and the metrics will be great. Getting out the way shouldn't be hard but will he and the admin's egos allow themselves to do so or are they going to make giant changes to tax/tarriffs fo show off how smart they are? There really isn't any telling bc there is no predicting what they will do and won't have a congress that challenges any idea that comes up.

Maybe I'm wrong but if you could point me to any republican platform that he hasn't disavowed so I can get an expectation of what his admin will actually look like that'd be swell....
Liberal meltdowns are glorious!
 
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ckDOG

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Don’t bother. They’re prepping for when things get better, they can claim “Biden did that” despite things being shi-tay under Biden.
And if not you'll blame Biden. And if most metrics are flat compared to what's inherited there will be a moment of "well 2.1% inflation is actually good!". All the possible reactions are predictable. Fact is a very large chunk of voters don't really care about R or D or the name on the ballot. They just toss out the incumbent when gas or eggs go up. They sure as hell don't care about my investment returns last 4 years.

Anyhow, GOP will have to convince everyone things are rosey in the next year or so heading into 26. Will be tough to do outside of the party hardliners with as pessimistic they've positioned despite a pretty solid rebound last 2 years. Can things get better? Of course and I hope they do. But telling voters they are in a shittier hole than reality starts you behind the 8 ball politically bc they expect very quick improvements.

What are the quick wins can most voters expect to see in the next 1-2 years that will make them feel better at the grocery store or gas pump? I doubt the sledge hammer tariff stuff comes into play - that's too pricey for the consumer and will scare off most of Washington. The Vance/Thiel plans to dismantle the executive will be easier said than done and doesn't make eggs cheaper. That's a pet project for ideologues and who knows how far that gets. No tax on tips would actually do it but that's deficit insanity without an offset to the wealthy and going to be very polarizing politically.
 

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All I asked for was what the Trump admin is planing on given they will have all 3 branches of govt. That should be easy to do for any well informed supporter of a well prepared admin. Show me the details. Not the goals. The plan. 26 isn't too far away and the voters have demanded cheap ****. Let's get after it and see what's going to change shortly.
What you're saying is correct but you are discounting most of America's disgust with the daily dose of left wing lunacy this administration dished out. I could type for an hour but I'll just leave you with this.

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If it costs me money to get rid of this crap just send me the bill and add a 20% tip.
 

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There's gonna be a bloodbath among the Democratic Party power brokers in the next few months. Much needed. Hopefully they'll give us a decent candidate for the first time since Clinton in 4 years.
 
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ckDOG

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What you're saying is correct but you are discounting most of America's disgust with the daily dose of left wing lunacy this administration dished out. I could type for an hour but I'll just leave you with this.

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What you're saying is correct but you are discounting most of America's disgust with the daily dose of left wing lunacy this administration dished out. I could type for an hour but I'll just leave you with this.

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If it costs me money to get rid of this crap just send me the bill and add a 20% tip.
I don't doubt the disgust. I think it's mostly a water cooler thing though and ultimately if voters thought they were getting a good deal at the pump /grocery store they don't care. If they don't, then it's more fuel for the fire. Hell they just fired one frail geriatric and rehired a sunsetting geriatric whose health should be of yuge concern. They don't care. Eggs and gas. Eggs and gas.
 
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And if not you'll blame Biden. And if most metrics are flat compared to what's inherited there will be a moment of "well 2.1% inflation is actually good!". All the possible reactions are predictable. Fact is a very large chunk of voters don't really care about R or D or the name on the ballot. They just toss out the incumbent when gas or eggs go up. They sure as hell don't care about my investment returns last 4 years.

Anyhow, GOP will have to convince everyone things are rosey in the next year or so heading into 26. Will be tough to do outside of the party hardliners with as pessimistic they've positioned despite a pretty solid rebound last 2 years. Can things get better? Of course and I hope they do. But telling voters they are in a shittier hole than reality starts you behind the 8 ball politically bc they expect very quick improvements.

What are the quick wins can most voters expect to see in the next 1-2 years that will make them feel better at the grocery store or gas pump? I doubt the sledge hammer tariff stuff comes into play - that's too pricey for the consumer and will scare off most of Washington. The Vance/Thiel plans to dismantle the executive will be easier said than done and doesn't make eggs cheaper. That's a pet project for ideologues and who knows how far that gets. No tax on tips would actually do it but that's deficit insanity without an offset to the wealthy and going to be very polarizing politically.
2.1 inflation is good? What are you talking about?

it’s the 6% yearly average that’s 17ing terrible
And that’s not all on Biden/harris and dems

But spending and printing $h1t tons of money is bad!!!
 
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johnson86-1

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I don't doubt the disgust. I think it's mostly a water cooler thing though and ultimately if voters thought they were getting a good deal at the pump /grocery store they don't care. If they don't, then it's more fuel for the fire. Hell they just fired one frail geriatric and rehired a sunsetting geriatric whose health should be of yuge concern. They don't care. Eggs and gas. Eggs and gas.
Trump is probably too old but his Vice President is at least smart. May not be competent as an administrator, but he didn't need to perform any sexual favors to jump start his careeer. Or at least I don't think he did.
 
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ckDOG

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2.1 inflation is good? What are you talking about?

it’s the 6% yearly average that’s 17ing terrible
And that’s not all on Biden/harris and dems

But spending and printing $h1t tons of money is bad!!!
Inflation was bad and now it's not. Why is that hard to grasp? Bad things aren't always bad. Good things aren't always good. I hope Trump continues the 2.0 targets. Historically healthy.
 

ckDOG

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Trump is probably too old but his Vice President is at least smart. May not be competent as an administrator, but he didn't need to perform any sexual favors to jump start his careeer. Or at least I don't think he did.
He's definitely bright. I don't know what he's passionate about though. Is he a pragmatic populist? Is he an evil villain that wants to knee cap the executive? Hard to tell. Bright as he may be, he's very typical in the political world in that he's made massive shifts in opinions to position himself for an election win. Which Vance do we get? Probably 50/50 he ends up with a promotion in the next 4 years given Trump's age/health.
 

ckDOG

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There's gonna be a bloodbath among the Democratic Party power brokers in the next few months. Much needed. Hopefully they'll give us a decent candidate for the first time since Clinton in 4 years.
No. They'll wait and see like they always do. "Maybe if we just wait one more cycle Trump and the GOP will eat themselves and the public will come crawling back to our progressive ideals?!"
 
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ckDOG

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I'm pretty sure if you can remember 2017 thru 2020 but subtract the constant undermining by communists you can figure out what the next 4 will look like. If you can't remember Google it.
Yes. Things were good until they weren't. Things were bad until they weren't. Anyone selling all good/bad for either of these admins isn't being honest.
 

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There's gonna be a bloodbath among the Democratic Party power brokers in the next few months. Much needed. Hopefully they'll give us a decent candidate for the first time since Clinton in 4 years.
They don't seem to learn from their mistakes. Their last three candidates have been an almost universally despised woman with significant political baggage, a man more than likely already in cognitive decline and a woman who couldn't make it out of Iowa in the 2020 primary. All their commentators are already blaming the electorate. Obama's election convinced them that anyone who opposed them was bigoted. Introspection isn't their strong suit.
 

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Where the heck is Kamala Harris? What is she doing? This is a clear cut victory, she should be calling Trump and giving a concession speech.
 
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What you're saying is correct but you are discounting most of America's disgust with the daily dose of left wing lunacy this administration dished out. I could type for an hour but I'll just leave you with this.

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Looks like Liz Chaney is taking it pertty hard.***
 
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Inflation was bad and now it's not. Why is that hard to grasp? Bad things aren't always bad. Good things aren't always good. I hope Trump continues the 2.0 targets. Historically healthy.
Show me the stats where inflation is good

is it back down to 2.5%?

just bc it came down doesn’t mean it’s good
 
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He's definitely bright. I don't know what he's passionate about though. Is he a pragmatic populist? Is he an evil villain that wants to knee cap the executive? Hard to tell. Bright as he may be, he's very typical in the political world in that he's made massive shifts in opinions to position himself for an election win. Which Vance do we get? Probably 50/50 he ends up with a promotion in the next 4 years given Trump's age/health.
He’s repositioned himself way less than the alternative Kamala.

surely you can admit that?
Or do I need to remind you of her positions?
 

thatsbaseball

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Where the heck is Kamala Harris? What is she doing? This is a clear cut victory, she should be calling Trump and giving a concession speech.
Waiting for her "handlers" to write it . She absolutely couldn't give a speech on anything on her own....well not one that anyone would know WTF she was trying to say.
 
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Yes. Things were good until they weren't. Things were bad until they weren't. Anyone selling all good/bad for either of these admins isn't being honest.
So tell me why isn’t it you wanted the other person so much more than trump?

was it bc of their social policies?
 
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johnson86-1

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Where the heck is Kamala Harris? What is she doing? This is a clear cut victory, she should be calling Trump and giving a concession speech.
I watched some of her speeches at the rally the day before the election and she seemed to be stone cold sober. Maybe not eloquent but no slurring of her words and no fake accents. If she was really as sloshed as she seemed at some of her appearances in the middle of the day, I'm guessing she exhausted her willpower early yesterday and nothing in the results would have made her want to slow down as the night went on.
 

ckDOG

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He’s repositioned himself way less than the alternative Kamala.

surely you can admit that?
Or do I need to remind you of her positions?
Brother, you will not find me defending the consistency of any mainstream politician.
 
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I just put my name in the hat to be director of a Trump re-education camp in the NE. I will keep yall updated. Peace and blessings!
 
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