FC: Whew Mauti let's Jay have it with both barrels

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I can't keep up. Someone needs to get all parties at the table and tell them to shut up. Like face to face at a table.


Ordinarily, I'd say that Kraft is the only person that could get the parties to row in the same direction. But when people who have nothing to do with NIL start going off in public, I don't know.
 

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This is really getting embarrassing.
This was always a "narrative" (hate that word) being promulgated by folks with either very (VERY) low intellects, and/or personal axes to grind (for their own self interests). That was obvious from Day 1.
If one subjects themselves to the intellectual punishment of listening to that podcast - through to the later parts - they will see exactly what was behind the whole "NIL is garbage" kerfluffle (spoiler, it had nothing to do with "NIL").

(FWIW: So much of the content of that 18 minutes is simply abject nonsense.)

Where would one expect that to end up?

BTW: I wonder if the journalist responsible for that wonderful piece of reporting took the time to reach out the other parties mentioned (slandered?) in that piece (or the last one)? That is what righteous and serious journalists do, right?
 
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Understood. Just when it looks like things have cooled down, another nimrod has to throw gasoline on it. Helluva' way to run a railroad.
Not trying to be an ***. Just asking, what’s your beef with Short? Is it that he dislikes Jay also? I’m like LionJim here. I can’t keep up with the proJay vs antiJay crowd, NIL vs antiNIL, proMauti vs antiMauti, pro Lubrano vs antiLubrano, proBOT vs antiBOT, proapology vs antiapology? It gets a little confusing.
 
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Not trying to be an ***. Just asking, what’s your beef with Short? Is it that he dislikes Jay also? I’m like LionJim here. I can’t keep up with the proJay vs antiJay crowd, NIL vs antiNIL, proMauti vs antiMauti, pro Lubrano vs antiLubrano, proBOT vs antiBOT, proapology vs antiapology? It gets a little confusing.
Has nothing to do with Jay who is also a nimrod. Ask yourself this: at this point, or at any point, why does Short have to say anything for public consumption. Is that interview going to move PSU NIL forward?
 
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Not trying to be an ***. Just asking, what’s your beef with Short? Is it that he dislikes Jay also? I’m like LionJim here. I can’t keep up with the proJay vs antiJay crowd, NIL vs antiNIL, proMauti vs antiMauti, pro Lubrano vs antiLubrano, proBOT vs antiBOT, proapology vs antiapology? It gets a little confusing.
Nothing is wrong with Short nor that interview.
 

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Has nothing to do with Jay who is also a nimrod. Ask yourself this: at this point, or at any point, why does Short have to say anything for public consumption. Is that interview going to move PSU NIL forward?
Well, considering his former BOT position and his continued involvement with the football program, as well as, his background in finance, I’d bet he has way more of a chance of moving NIL forward than you or I, so I will let him speak his peace and respect his opinion without calling him names. Plus, based on this interview from the past when he was running for BOT reelection, he seems to check a lot of boxes that many on here clamor for on a daily basis.

 

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Again, I am always perplexed by the “freedom of speech” champions who do a 180 when someone has a different opinion than them then they just say STFU. Interesting.
 

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Not trying to be an ***. Just asking, what’s your beef with Short? Is it that he dislikes Jay also? I’m like LionJim here. I can’t keep up with the proJay vs antiJay crowd, NIL vs antiNIL, proMauti vs antiMauti, pro Lubrano vs antiLubrano, proBOT vs antiBOT, proapology vs antiapology? It gets a little confusing.
Also, based on all the contradictions I noted here amongst the alumni and fans. (There are plenty more that I did get into) NIL is the least of our concern. Until, those issues are all ironed out, it’s going to be tough to move forward.
 

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Well, considering his former BOT position and his continued involvement with the football program, as well as, his background in finance, I’d bet he has way more of a chance of moving NIL forward than you or I, so I will let him speak his peace and respect his opinion without calling him names. Plus, based on this interview from the past when he was running for BOT reelection, he seems to check a lot of boxes that many on here clamor for on a daily basis.

So with his formidable background and ability why isn't Brandon Short doing anything to move NIL forward?
 

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How do we know he isn’t?
He isn't. And in the unlikely event that he is, it's not going so well is it?

While you're at it, perhaps you can explain how a background in finance would contribute to success in a NIL business?
 

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He isn't. And in the unlikely event that he is, it's not going so well is it?

While you're at it, perhaps you can explain how a background in finance would contribute to success in a NIL business?
Seriously? I’m done. Have a good night.
 

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In other words, you have no answer.
Yeah, I’m at a loss as to how a guy with a background in the financial world, most likely with business connections, could possibly know anything about how to obtain money for fundraising for NIL. You got me. I’m stumped. You win. Good night.

I guess the best option is to just blast anybody that questions Jay, call them names and tell them to STFU. That seems like the best way to move forward.
 
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

One day, we will all look back at barren and Sandy as Penn State’s golden era.
Wow, you are quite the comedian. Are you putting together material for a Netflix comedy hour?
 

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Yeah, I’m at a loss as to how a guy with a background in the financial world, most likely with business connections, could possibly know anything about how to obtain money for fundraising for NIL. You got me. I’m stumped. You win. Good night.
Short is a real-estate portfolio manager for the Pru. Where do you think the money he invests comes from?

His background doesn't hold a candle to Ira Lubert's. Lubert is a founder and director of Success With Honor, the NIL collective to which Jay and Lubrano are associated. Why is it the focus for criticism?
 

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You can't possibly be this dumb in real life - cross checked, SMH

That's false equivalence Bob. The notion of "us" doesn't really apply anymore. Is us supposed to be Nittany Nation? That's just just some marketing ********. The day where any of these people represent more than themselves are gone. Gotta catch up bud
Exactly, Jay hasn’t cared about anything but himself for years.
 

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If we're talking about paying players (beyond NIL) then Jay is full of :poop:. Revenue from media rights will be insufficient. Think that and gate, and naming right, and, yes, contributions from alumni and whoever else. Man is a fu@king numbskull.
Jay is a Moron
 

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Again, I am always perplexed by the “freedom of speech” champions who do a 180 when someone has a different opinion than them then they just say STFU. Interesting.
Free speechers only want to have their speech being free. To opposing views it’s STFU. It been that way in the US for at least the last dozen or so years.

It’s kinda like: “do as I say, not as I do”
 

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Short is a real-estate portfolio manager for the Pru. Where do you think the money he invests comes from?

His background doesn't hold a candle to Ira Lubert's. Lubert is a founder and director of Success With Honor, the NIL collective to which Jay and Lubrano are associated. Why is it the focus for criticism?
Paterno and Lubrano are not associated with swh. Jay has been asked repeatedly not to speak on the collectives behalf
 

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Paterno and Lubrano are not associated with swh. Jay has been asked repeatedly not to speak on the collectives behalf
That is correct. I could make a good guess as to why SWH wasn't a rip-roaring success and it had nothing to do with Jay, Lubrano, Ira or any of the other founders. Hope that Kerry Small can turn it around.
 

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So the BoT is involved in promoting NIL? Brilliant!

I'm more interested in Brandon Short's ideas and efforts to reduce PSU's nine-figure deficits.
No they are not promoting NIL, but those two need less power at the University & voting them out WILL help de-neuter them.

As for the nine-figure deficit, it gets proven every day: Go Woke, go broke. 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Understood. Just when it looks like things have cooled down, another nimrod has to throw gasoline on it. Helluva' way to run a railroad.
This has been simmering ever since Jay voted down the money for Lash.That’s fine if he feels that way, but at the same time he makes comments how involved in football he is. The lies gotta stop so maybe you can call Jay & tell him to cut it out so that the AD can move forward. Mauti & Short ain’t the ones spreading the BS, they are only calling out Jay & Lubrano for doing so.

I get that you don’t like this being public, & overall I agree with your stance. But you’re blaming the wrong folks for this mess, & my guess is that Mauti, Short & others have tired of Jay & Lubrano for months (maybe years) & now are just sick of the lies & need to lead change.
 
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No they are not promoting NIL, but those two need less power at the University & voting them out WILL help de-neuter them.

As for the nine-figure deficit, it gets proven every day: Go Woke, go broke. 🤣🤣🤣
Jay and Lubrano have now power at PSU. They are simply noisemakers.
This has been simmering ever since Jay voted down the money for Lash.That’s fine if he feels that way, but at the same time he makes comments how involved in football he is. The lies gotta stop so maybe you can call Jay & tell him to cut it out so that the AD can move forward. Mauti & Short ain’t the ones spreading the BS, they are only calling out Jay & Lubrano for doing so.

I get that you don’t like this being public, & overall I agree with your stance. But you’re blaming the wrong folks for this mess, & my guess is that Mauti, Short & others have tired of Jay & Lubrano for months (maybe years) & now are just sick of the lies & need to lead change.
Until Shrewberry left, nothing was heard about the state of NIL at PSU. And it's not as if SWH was the only entity operating in that area. If Franklin wasn't pleased with the response he was getting from SWH, he could have turned to the group that Mauti runs, which focuses only on football.

And in the background, before any of the noise hit the fan, moves were afoot to reorganize SWH. Don't know when they started, but it was before anyone was talking about it. Gonna guess that the folks who oversee it weren't happy with previous management.
 

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Free speechers only want to have their speech being free. To opposing views it’s STFU. It been that way in the US for at least the last dozen or so years.

It’s kinda like: “do as I say, not as I do”

Well apparently telling someone to shut up is now the equivalent to the government actively working to delete and moderate speech it disagrees with. Who knew it was so easy and the same thing? Don't feel bad, you're not even the only moron in this thread who believes this.
 

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The people who actually have power at Penn State need to be better at their jobs and getting positive results. Complaining someone thinks differently than them is loser talk, and is a mere attempt to distract from their own incompetence. Competency matters, and I dare say is paramount to any successful organization.
 
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