Is it any surprise the Nose pickers in Michigan are cheaters? Currently under investigation by the NCAA illegally scouting

[Bwifan]

What could happen if Michigan and Jim Harbaugh take their Big Ten battle to court?

If the Big Ten suspends Jim Harbaugh on Thursday for Michigan's alleged sign stealing, expect a legal fight from the Wolverines. Here's how that could play out.

www.espn.com

I still think Michigan is going to try and stall this with everything they have... See if Harbaugh can get a natty and at season's end he bolts to the NFL to coach the Raiders and Michigan fans don't care what punishment the NCAA dishes out since they have their natty.

 

[ODShowtime]

I still think Michigan is going to try and stall this with everything they have... See if Harbaugh can get a natty and at season's end he bolts to the NFL to coach the Raiders and Michigan fans don't care what punishment the NCAA dishes out since they have their natty.

Like other groups in the country these days, they will revel in their outlaw status. They'll taunt us about how they got away with it along with everything else.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

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[PSUSignore]

Michigan's response to the Big 10 is surprisingly lacking in "we didn't do it" content.

 

[ODShowtime]

Michigan's response to the Big 10 is surprisingly lacking in "we didn't do it" content.

Denying guilt is so 20th century. Now you attack the process.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

SVP's One Big Thing: Breaking down Michigan's sign-stealing scandal

Michigan has a view of itself that is justified for many reasons -- it's a great school and a proud football tradition. But being a Michigan man doesn't mean you're above being called out if you broke the rules.

www.espn.com

 

[leinbacker]

 

[PSUSignore]

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[ODShowtime]

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Well, one thing you can take away from that is that Marines don't FA. Luckily they are generally doing good honorable work for the country.

 

[ManxomeLion]

Well, one thing you can take away from that is that Marines don't FA. Luckily they are generally doing good honorable work for the country.

Apparently he joined the military as a career route to coaching football. Sounds a bit monomaniacal. https://soldierstosidelines.org/blog/cotm-jan-2022/

 

[ODShowtime]

Apparently he joined the military as a career route to coaching football. Sounds a bit monomaniacal. https://soldierstosidelines.org/blog/cotm-jan-2022/

It appears to me that he may be insane.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[mr.michigan]

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Still pretty damn good either even before sign stealing was invented. Jim's awesomeness knows no bounds

 

[MacNit2.0]

Michigan's response to the Big 10 is surprisingly lacking in "we didn't do it" content.

They did it!

 

[MacNit2.0]

Have you see what is going on at Harvard lately?

 

[marshall23]

They did it!

They did it!

No it was all Connor Stalions. He was a Lee Harvey Oswald type program assassin. The coordinators he stood next to and listened as he informed them what was coming, merely thought he was a savant. A gift from God to bring Michigan what they so richly deserved. Harbaugh, well, look at him. This guy is in a world of his own. Stalions fashioned his CMU coaching gear out of discarded Michigan practice gear and did a Jack Ruby type of entrance unnoticed onto the CMU sidelines.
Just as Oswald was likely a CIA operative, Stalions worked for Ohio State, funded by Ryan Day. His mission, make Michigan Football a national pariah. Mission Accomplished I just can't understand why everyone doesn't understand that Michigan is the only victim here

 

[Alphalion75]

I sure hope Harbaugh is not suspended before our game with Michigan. If will only further incite the Wolverines.

 

[GreggK]

Turns out this was fake.
posted on the OSU board.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom_PSU]

If not a seat, then in the cargo space, first class overhead luggage or perhaps in a crate marked “Return to Connor Stalions vacuum cleaner repair services”.

 

[marshall23]

Sounds like we will hear something 1pm

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[jp3272]

Ain’t nothing discipline wise going to happen until end of the year, at the earliest.

 

[marshall23]

In terms of being "fair to the players," who is responsible for this? The coaching staff of U of M that initiated this scheme betrayed the sacred trust that coaches on every level owe their charges. All the accomplishments, team and individual will be forever tainted. The young people they were entrusted to develop and protect have been harmed.
I find it interesting that everyone is concerned about the Michigan players.....was it fair to the players on the teams that Michigan cheated against? Where is their justice?

 

[ODShowtime]

Oh no it's not fair for the players!!! The horror!

We have to make sure it's always fair for the players. Except Nittany Lions. F them.

 

[marshall23]

Oh no it's not fair for the players!!! The horror!

We have to make sure it's always fair for the players. Except Nittany Lions. F them.

When you brake it all down. The Michigan players are among those harmed by the systemic spying scheme initiated by their very own coaches.

 

[BobPSU92]

Of course he’s going to PSU this weekend. Death Dish at Berkey!

 

[ODShowtime]

When you brake it all down. The Michigan players are among those harmed by the systemic spying scheme initiated by their very own coaches.

Sure, for those of us that understand the concept of accountability.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[blion72]

When you brake it all down. The Michigan players are among those harmed by the systemic spying scheme initiated by their very own coaches.

the argument that the current players at Penn State might be harmed by the actions of a person outside of Penn State did not seem to be a valid argument. Not sure how this is a legal argument.

Tom Mars seems to show up whenever an organization attempts to enforce any restrictions on teams or players. The teams/schools are voluntary members of both the NCAA and the BIG conference, and sign contracts that include being overseen and governed by these organizations. This includes submitting to the authority of said organizations to enforce compliance and doll out sanctions/punishments. Without that level of control you have a lawless/chaotic structure.

most of us have a drivers license to operate various motor vehicles. As part of that license we agree to follow the laws of our state, and that we will be punished/fined for not obeying the traffic laws.

How does Tom Mars have any argument? Has any one ever asked Tom Mars to comment on the punishment that Penn State took over Jerry Sandusky incident, which was via an outside entity?

 

[mr.michigan]

In terms of being "fair to the players," who is responsible for this? The coaching staff of U of M that initiated this scheme betrayed the sacred trust that coaches on every level owe their charges. All the accomplishments, team and individual will be forever tainted. The young people they were entrusted to develop and protect have been harmed.
I find it interesting that everyone is concerned about the Michigan players.....was it fair to the players on the teams that Michigan cheated against? Where is their justice?

No, it won't. The tide is already turning. This is going to age with laughter

 

[marshall23]

the argument that the current players at Penn State might be harmed by the actions of a person outside of Penn State did not seem to be a valid argument. Not sure how this is a legal argument.

Tom Mars seems to show up whenever an organization attempts to enforce any restrictions on teams or players. The teams/schools are voluntary members of both the NCAA and the BIG conference, and sign contracts that include being overseen and governed by these organizations. This includes submitting to the authority of said organizations to enforce compliance and doll out sanctions/punishments. Without that level of control you have a lawless/chaotic structure.

most of us have a drivers license to operate various motor vehicles. As part of that license we agree to follow the laws of our state, and that we will be punished/fined for not obeying the traffic laws.

How does Tom Mars have any argument? Has any one ever asked Tom Mars to comment on the punishment that Penn State took over Jerry Sandusky incident, which was via an outside entity?

Pretty sure this is currently not a legal matter. But in competitive sport, tampering with the legitimacy of a contest is about as bad as it gets.

 

[blion72]

Pretty sure this is currently not a legal matter. But in competitive sport, tampering with the legitimacy of a contest is about as bad as it gets.

totally agree with you. that is why I am not seeing how they try to take this to a legal argument. Tom Mars seems to take all these to the courts. Is he going to argue that Penn State DBs held UMich WRs if we were to win?

 

[GreggK]

 

[GreggK]

This is incredibly BS if true. And I trust that it is true.
Does that mean he can also coach from the box?

 

[Catch1lion]

 

[ODShowtime]

Looking like 3 games

Big Ten suspends Jim Harbaugh 3 games for Michigan's alleged sign-stealing scheme

The punishment is in response to Michigan staff member Connor Stalions allegedly running an illegal in-person scouting operation.

www.yahoo.com

 

[STL_Lion]

My best guess is nothing will happen before our game tomorrow.
B10 will come down with 2 game suspension for Harbaugh and a fine less than $10K which is consistent with B10 bylaws for Commissioner authority limits. Timing will be either Monday or Tuesday to give UM time prepare. UM will take legal action but will lose in court unless Judge is a UM zealot.
OSU vs UM game will be a must see TV.