Because he's short-sighted. MS would lose more opportunities closing schools than by making it easier for OOS kids to attend State.
Keenum has got to go.
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Probably a lot easier to get a shuttle than to wish for a flight to GTR. They used to run a shuttle daily from the R&D center to Stark every single day in the 90s. It was great. Forget something at home and just have someone put it on the shuttle
You got it, for the most part. I do think that what UM is doing is beginning to hurt in state students. If we start doing it too that would be a problem. If you can bring in more out of state students without hurting both enrollment and scholarship opportunities for in state students, then that's fine.
My suggestion for cutting schools is DOA of course. The legal fights would bankrupt the state.
Nope, my view is totally focused on the long term for higher education for Mississippians. Yall are the ones taking the short view, mostly for athletic reasons.
SMART meets every flight at GTR. GTR really needs a westbound flight to either DFW or Houston.
Valley and MUW are the schools that need to close. The other six offer something of value.
GTR definitely needs a DFW flight, and MSU should have a JAN shuttle.
GTR definitely needs a DFW flight, and MSU should have a JAN shuttle.
Shuttle to MEI and get a direct flight to Houston. Little farther than Ole Miss to MEM though, about 100 miles, 1:31. May could be a good partnership also with Meridian people that want to get to Atlanta the other way too, plus you have the campus there. Eventually, show enough demand, the airlines take notice.
I know Meridian hotels were shuttling Texas A&M fans to Tuscaloosa for a ballgame a few years ago. I'm guessing we could pull this off.
Nothing changes with that just because kids come in from OOS. It means a larger school, that's all. Do you think MS kids aren't going to compete with those kids for jobs? Because they are regardless, if they're in a quality major. You act like MS kids can't compete, and that's a damn shame.
FFS. I never suggested doing recruiting OOS instead of in Mississippi. Do you think it's a zero sum game? We can recruit both. We can even increase OOS and not reduce in state, and OOS PAY MORE MONRY TO ATTEND TO THE RETURN IS BETTER
A lot of Mississippi kids CAN'T compete with the education background they have, especially for university admissions. Get them into competent university and help them and they can compete with anyone. Thats my whole point. Thanks for bringing that up.
In what universe?
Starkville to Meridian is 98 miles 1:35 drive
Starkville to BHM(the airport) is 146 miles and a 2:30 drive.
Uhh, you are logistically challenged.
If this is how you arrive at all your opinions, then honestly, that explains a lot.
To some degree it is a zero sum game. Scholarships is zero sum. The university is bursting at the seams when it comes to physical plant as well. That is getting better, but we aren't there yet. We could not handle a sudden influx. I'm all for OOS as long as they don't take things from Mississippians.
What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. MEM is only a factor for Ole Miss, not us.
See my reply above. To some extent it is. There IS a scarcity of some things.
No It's are not....
Or better explain how?
There are more scholarships now than there were 10 years ago...
And if you have more Alumni, then you can get more money. Which means more scholarships... Which means you can build more buildings...
I was joking, but you ARE Larry Templeton....
How so? By having a smaller school with less money and alumni?
MUCH, and we already have public transport from Starkville to there. I fly out of GTR some. Y'all also must be unaware that there are private shuttle services from the Golden Triangle that will take you to Memphis, Jackson, and Birmingham. We have used a couple of them to get to GTR when we had multiple people flying with us. We live a bit outside the Triangle.
Yes, to all that, and my points still stand. I'm a realist. You aren't going to build a bunch of new buildings on tuition money even if it is out of state money, LOL.
Where have I argued for that? NOT ONCE. Just don't leave us Mississippians out while y'all try to make us into Ole Miss.
And it takes 6-8 hours of travel time to get to DFW or Houston flying via Atlanta.
You can drive it in the same amount of time after adding in drive to airports and preboard wait times.
FYI a 10-12 hour travel day ******* SUCKS.
I swear you guys don't travel.
LOL
You are building anything with your mindset.
It's not the extra tuition money you Larry, it's the added alumni donating money.... You know from the extra OOS students....
Hey Larry Quixote, no one has said " get OOS in place of Mississippians" except you. Because your too old to conceive that we can add OOS and instate students
I travel, I've been to 16 countries and 35 states. Most of the times I have flown involved those kind of days, or worse. If you live here that's what you get.
Now my Question: If you fly from GTR to Atlanta, why exactly would you need to go to Dallas unless that is your final destination? If that's what you are talking about, and you CAN do what you said, why in the world would you fly?
Y'all are wanting us to do what Ole Miss and Bama are doing....so I thought you actually meant what you said. Sorry.
I'm not saying replace MS kids, I'm saying you want both. And it really can't be disputed. I'm not saying a 100% acceptance rate either, because you stick kids with debt & no degree doing that. OOS tuition is higher than a giraffe's pecker. Find ways to minimize that and recruit better.
you are doing a **** job of it.
Because when everyone else come up with ways to get more students, you throw a hissy fit about it taking spots away from local kids.
How frequently are parents visiting their kids when their kids go to school far enough away to necessitate a flight, but the flight is direct?
Like a kid from Plano TX that's going to school at UGA- how often do you think parents in that scenario are driving to DFW, flying into ATL, and driving to Athens?
Even a direct flight is inconvenient from a PTO perspective.
Heck, I was friends with a ton of kids from Mississippi who never had their parents come visit...and they lived 2 hours or less from MSU.
If that'
What y'all are doing is throwing out talking points. You are using unicorn logic about how to pay for it all too.
Why in the world would a normal kid WANT their parents to come see them at college much?
I wanted to stay.
Looked around hard, talked a bunch with my now wife, and we finally accepted it wouldn't be in our long term best interest.
The pull was definitely there, but the path was foggy and we just couldn't see it working.
Here is a cookie. for your travel. It's not a weekend trip to see your kid.
Because, you live in Texas? Are you ok? I mean mentally? or do you not read?
all I've talked about is "Getting kids from the west".
I've said clearly why "flying into MSU from the west sucks vs bama or Ole miss"
And "If we made flying to GTR easier, we could get more Texas students without much issue"
Meanwhile you tilted at windmills about "not letting local kids attend anymore" because we don't have scholarship money" that's delusional.
So how do we accommodate them NOW? Classes on the Drill Field? Tents in the Junction?
WTF?
you don't want the parents to come to school? You think parents don't visit the kids? Don't come to games?
Mentally, are you ok?
And I'm not disputing that. There are a couple of guys here arguing with themselves.
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