That is our real problem. Jobs keep people in state, going to school here does not.
Keenum has got to go.
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WTF, I'm not saying we let in 20,000 extra kids in the spring.
We have space for more students. (about 3,000 based on previous enrollment, not including the buildings added since then)
If only education was a reason employers wanted to move to an area....
We have space for more students, but I'm curious to where you get 3,000 from? With the additional dorm being built we've got some room, but things are still relatively tight in some areas that can't afford a large influx of students out of nowhere, as OM has experienced the last few years.
LOL. I take that name as a compliment by the way. He got us through some very lean times where our athletic program very well could have collapsed.
We had about 1,500 more kids on campus a few years ago. Since then the a few more classroom buildings have been built.
Our record enrollment was in 2021, which was about 400 more than last year and we'll have close to 2021 numbers this fall, so not sure where you're getting that. But it also takes more than just classroom space to accommodate the students.
Really? It takes more than classroom space????
Maybe we should build more dorms, and update the cafeteria, and make traffic flow better...
Too bad we are not doing any of that.
I knew I should not have put up a number.
And AGAIN, I DIDNT MEAN THIS ******* SPRING.
Nor do I want us to let in a class like Ole Miss did.
Jesus, never thought I'd like my school to be better and bigger would be a 6 page ******* argument...
Best university in eastern Oktibbeha county since 1878
"Dammit! I knew I shouldn't have pulled a random number out of my ***... but it was so itchy!"
I didnt know you wanted an exhaustive list of ways a univesity can create jobs, Larry
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And they were jammed to the rafters for classroom space. We probably have built up enough to accommodate some of that again.
No, it was already that far behind when he got there, worse than that actually. He kept it from slipping farther. When he was let go it was time though.
It was not random, but it was an old number.
I was at a speech by Keenum 10-15 years ago that MSU capacity was ~25,0000 without adding buildings and new dorms. We have built/are building that . found it the number was 26,600
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Someone correct me here but we are building a new dorm that will have a cafeteria which would be our third. We have gutted Perry and are totally renovating it.
You don't think some of those people will start business ventures?
So how are you going to accommodate them when we do take them in. You either do it by making heavy capital investment now to enlarge all aspects of the university, or you limit enrollment and cut the number of in state kids you take. Or, you do both to a lesser degree. That's your choices. We all share you goals, but you are using unicorn thinking. Great goals, no specifics on how to get there. Now if you have looked around campus lately we are making some pretty big investments in infrastructure, and doing it under Mark Keenum. That is the only realistic first step. This thread's premise was bogus from the OP.
maybe we should build a new animal science building, and another engineering building? maybe one for kinesiology?
How did Larry "advance the MSU athletics?" or even keep us from slipping?
He had ONE good coaching hire.
Polk was there, and he lazily hired him back, He didn't hire Williams, Or Jackie.
Zach hired Jackie.
Williams was there.
He did promote Stansbury
He let Jackie coach at least 1 year too long.
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I'd make the argument that traffic flow is getting worse, but that's my personal experience driving in it every day.
Enrollment under Keenum has increased pretty dramatically across the board, so not sure what else you're expecting. We're targeting students we've not had before in healthcare and other new programs to help increase it even more before the upcoming cliff hits. Doing all the things you mentioned sets us up for long-term success beyond that, too.
I'd also like to see us doing a better job on the students that we already have on campus, since we know they're already here.
We were discussing jobs to entice grads to stay in Mississippi. It's gonna have to be more than direct and indirect employment due to all of our universities.
I hated the man. He treated me like
Crap, personally. That being said he did a good job here overall for a long time. It was time for him to go when he did. We had more money coming in and he had operated on a shoestring for so long, it just wasn't in him to really move beyond that.
The traffic flow is by design. They are headed toward a pedestrian only central campus. It's getting pretty close. The other stuff is spot on. We are already doing what they want, just not how or as fast as they want it. Most of this crap here is because football sucks anyway.
Lol, the hire that he made that pulled us out of the dark ages, you won't give him credit for. That explains the rest of what you have posted. It's been fun!!!
Why are you "cut the number of in state kids you take"? Who other than you has said that? Why not limit the out of state kids if you hit capacity, but still plan on growing the university?
You continue to make a capital investment to allow more students. maybe we can call it "Mississippi State Capital Improvement plan" I'd have released something like that in august 2022 to update a plan i'd have made in 2011... https://www.opdca.msstate.edu/files/20220912_MSU-MP-Update_Report_CapitalProjectsUpdate.pdf
Oh and also
yeah adding 3,000 students to our 22,000 current students was Completely "Pulled out of my itchy ***"
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The 2011 plan had central campus closed to cars, and more walkable. I think that's taking longer than expected, and is not a popular change.
I like enrollment increasing, and do not mean to imply we should not be caring for our students on campus now.
I do see an opportunity to grow, even with a decline in the mississippi population.
nope found the document Plan is to support 26,600 how many more is that from our 22,000 max enrollment?
Can you do math?
Dude.
We ain’t talking about your alma mater Shangri-La Attendance Center where two-thirds of the boys and girls played sports.
Believe it or not, Mississippi State University has thousands of students…
More students than you can comprehend…
Now if all of those thousands of students played sports, Mississippi State’s athletics budget would be way too high and in the red.
And while you got by because the teachers at Shangri-La were above average and gamed the state’s standardized tests….
…You’re still a dubmass.
It’s a noble idea, but you’re right. The Rebs have sold out to be anything BUT a place for the average MS student.
My son said last night he wants to go to State. He’s got a 4.5 GPA and we’re working on the test scores. Problem is, we live in TX so he’s gonna have to get those test scores up way high to even make sense. OOS tuition is extravagant. Other schools like rebville and the hogs waive it for a lot of students. I’m not sure he’ll get offered a cup of coffee from Keenum.
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