Official ‘24 PSU - Minnesota game thread

Marshall2323

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The blacked punt you just said was on the punter? That blocked punt?

The blacked punt you just said was on the punter? That blocked punt?
Film study and coaching should have
So the punter basically runs to the rusher and kicks it into him and a player on the line makes a bad decision on his blocking assignment and that's the coach's fault? He can't execute for them. Fortunately, the execution worked on the fake punt.

There does need to be some adjustments made to the FG blocking scheme because they nearly got the 26-22 kick blocked as well. Minnesota found something on tape and they exploited it pretty well.
trying to align with BWICAC Policy. Any lack of execution is 100% 0n the coaches,
 

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Sounds like the long snapper had the green light to call the fake if Minny sent out the punt return team. Big balls on the long snapper . I guess that's why they have to spread their feet so wide.......
Penn State repped this fake punt since the preseason and even gave Rulli the green light to call it about a half dozen times this season, Franklin said. However, the Nittany Lions never got the right look to run it until Saturday when Penn State spent the entire afternoon on upset alert. Franklin expected P.J. Fleck’s team to line up guarding against a fake, but when the Gophers ran their punt return team out instead, Rulli recognized it and make the right check----the Athletic
 

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Great win on the road against a scrappy team, on a weekend when all the SEC homers were dying to see us lose (watching Bama, Ole Miss, and A&M lose to bad teams made it so much sweeter!). One problem I usually av w with Franklin is his inconsistency with being aggressive - he set the tone early that it would be the case last night and stuck with it. Left some points on the filed on the fourth down when he could have made a FG, but made up for it. Having Luke Reynolds run the fake punt was genius - he’s the next Warren.

Only Maryland left - CFP rankings this week will be very, very interesting….
 

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I’m convinced that he shanked it and we wouldn’t have gotten much out of it even if it wasn’t blocked.
PP's are coached to never give ground. I've seen them block their own punts with their backpeddling asses. So the PP was backing up and funneling the rushers to the right. Yet the punter didn't adjust.
 

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The guys on CBS said it was a great win, championship stuff, right after the game. They actually watched it. Later some guy on another network criticized, prolly w/o watching the game and advocated for PSU to drop back. But how, everything behind them is a real mess. The politics of it is disgusting.
 
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Sounds like the long snapper had the green light to call the fake if Minny sent out the punt return team. Big balls on the long snapper . I guess that's why they have to spread their feet so wide.......
Penn State repped this fake punt since the preseason and even gave Rulli the green light to call it about a half dozen times this season, Franklin said. However, the Nittany Lions never got the right look to run it until Saturday when Penn State spent the entire afternoon on upset alert. Franklin expected P.J. Fleck’s team to line up guarding against a fake, but when the Gophers ran their punt return team out instead, Rulli recognized it and make the right check----the Athletic
Not the long snapper. He’s part of the shield wall and makes the snap call. Better view from there.
 
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Not the long snapper. He’s part of the shield wall and makes the snap call. Better view from there.
Yes . #52 had a very key block too. Further clarification deets ......
 

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After seeing all these “good” teams lose (or in the process of losing), I’ll take an ugly road win anytime.
My wife, whose football knowledge comes from watching football with me for the past 13 years, complains at times when we struggle against teams like Minnesota (i.e. unranked, not a great record). I try to make her understand that good teams don't always blow out the bad teams like last week when Oregon beat Wisconsin by 3 and other "good" teams lose to lower ranked/unranked teams, see Alabama, BYU, Colorado, Texas A&M, etc. I would love to win by 50 every game (I really would), but that isn't realistic. The bottom line is that we are 10-1, and I will take a win any way we can get one.
 

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And you’re one of the worst, just pathetic. Someone who doesn’t start calling the team terrible and saying they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs in the first quarter, is not a cultist, it’s more like a sane person who’s smart enough to realize there are four quarters in a game.
The fact that you think the team is above criticism doesn’t make you a bigger or better fan. It means you’re incapable of discerning mediocrity from excellence.

Everyone here wants to see the program succeed. But some of us are capable of analyzing the on-field product, and others, like you, are just cheerleaders.
 

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Punter was Ralph Giacamarro. I think he played for the Falcons one year. I wanna say the PP was Steve Sefter.

Mike Suter was the PP on the play. He moved backward and to his left, and Giacomarro's punt hit Suter in the back. PSU was at their 49-yard line on the 4th down play, but due to the "block," Alabama recovered the ball on the PSU 11.
 

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Mike Suter was the PP on the play. He moved backward and to his left, and Giacomarro's punt hit Suter in the back. PSU was at their 49-yard line on the 4th down play, but due to the "block," Alabama recovered the ball on the PSU 11.
he was from nearby right? somewhere not too far from University Park I mean
 

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he was from nearby right? somewhere not too far from University Park I mean

I thought Mike Suter was from the Cincinnati area, but I haven't thought about him in years, so I'm not certain about the Cincinnati region being his hometown.

BTW, the Mike Suter that played on the '82 team was part of the group of Letterman that signed on in support of the Paterno Family lawsuit against the NCAA.
 
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I thought Mike Suter was from the Cincinnati area, but I haven't thought about him in years, so I'm not certain about the Cincinnati region being his hometown.

BTW, the Mike Suter that played on the '82 team was part of the group of Letterman that signed on in support of the Paterno Family lawsuit against the NCAA.
Suter played at Cincinnati Moeller HS, Gerry Faust's former school before taking the HC at Notre Dame. Moeller is a Catholic Marianist school.
 

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The fact that you think the team is above criticism doesn’t make you a bigger or better fan. It means you’re incapable of discerning mediocrity from excellence.

Everyone here wants to see the program succeed. But some of us are capable of analyzing the on-field product, and others, like you, are just cheerleaders.
Criticism in the first quarter judging it as if that’s how the whole game will go means you’re an idiot, not a better fan. And 10-1 is not mediocrity as much as you want it to be, sorry, it just isn’t. The fact that I don’t judge the team on every play and every series does make me a better fan. Please show me the team that scores every series, gets a three and out on every series defensively, and wins all their games easily….I’ll wait, but I’m sure their fans aren’t just cheerleaders.
 

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My wife, whose football knowledge comes from watching football with me for the past 13 years, complains at times when we struggle against teams like Minnesota (i.e. unranked, not a great record). I try to make her understand that good teams don't always blow out the bad teams like last week when Oregon beat Wisconsin by 3 and other "good" teams lose to lower ranked/unranked teams, see Alabama, BYU, Colorado, Texas A&M, etc. I would love to win by 50 every game (I really would), but that isn't realistic. The bottom line is that we are 10-1, and I will take a win any way we can get one.
On your topic the 82 and 86 teams had some tight games along with 78, 77, 81, and 85. You are so correct, one year they put 81 on Cincy. and others they scratch back like they did against Minnesota on Saturday.

Temple,Rutgers, and Maryland gave us fits in the best years, good observation.
 
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Suter played at Cincinnati Moeller HS, Gerry Faust's former school before taking the HC at Notre Dame. Moeller is a Catholic Marianist school.
If I recall correctly, word got out that Tom Donchez was so pissed after the game that he hurled his helmet (or some other object at Suter) in the locker room. Not sure if this is true.
 

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Criticism in the first quarter judging it as if that’s how the whole game will go means you’re an idiot, not a better fan. And 10-1 is not mediocrity as much as you want it to be, sorry, it just isn’t. The fact that I don’t judge the team on every play and every series does make me a better fan. Please show me the team that scores every series, gets a three and out on every series defensively, and wins all their games easily….I’ll wait, but I’m sure their fans aren’t just cheerleaders.
Both of you guys make good points. Many of us, including myself, let our emotions get the better at times. Not unusual or always without cause during sporting events with much on the line. More venting than anything else. On the other hand, Ludd's equanimity is the more desirable approach. Certainly better for one's physical and mental health. I was an absolute wreck for about a half an hour after that game.:cry:
 
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Criticism in the first quarter judging it as if that’s how the whole game will go means you’re an idiot, not a better fan. And 10-1 is not mediocrity as much as you want it to be, sorry, it just isn’t. The fact that I don’t judge the team on every play and every series does make me a better fan. Please show me the team that scores every series, gets a three and out on every series defensively, and wins all their games easily….I’ll wait, but I’m sure their fans aren’t just cheerleaders.
List their quality wins this season, and you’ll quickly find out which of us is the idiot.

They played like garbage against a team that had 4 losses coming into Saturday. They got beat on both sides of the ball and were lucky to escape with a 1-point victory over a double-digit underdog.

Like I said: you’re a cheerleader, and a cultist. You have no analytical ability, and you think legitimate criticism is unfair. It’s not that you don’t judge the team on every play/every series. It’s that you have no ability to judge anything at all. I reiterate: mediocrity and excellence are the same to you. You cannot tell the difference. You think being a fan is the same as being knowledgeable. A common misconception held by cheerleaders. Feel free to directly quote anything I said that isn’t true. I dare you.
 
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Both of you guys make good points. Many of us, including myself, let our emotions get the better at times. Not unusual or always without cause during sporting events with much on the line. More venting than anything else. On the other hand, Ludd's equanimity is the more desirable approach. Certainly better for one's physical and mental health. I was an absolute wreck for about a half an hour after that game.:cry:
I would argue that without emotional investment, being a sports fan is pointless.

Better for mental health, maybe. But if the outcomes of these games are immaterial, why am I watching? If I am hoping to revel in the thrill of victory, then I have to be willing to suffer the agony of defeat.

Mostly, I just want to see the team play well. There’s been precious little of that this season against a very weak schedule.
 

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If I recall correctly, word got out that Tom Donchez was so pissed after the game that he hurled his helmet (or some other object at Suter) in the locker room. Not sure if this is true.
I would guess not since Donchez was around 30 years old at the time, he played in the early 70s
 

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List their quality wins this season, and you’ll quickly find out which of us is the idiot.

They played like garbage against a team that had 4 losses coming into Saturday. They got beat on both sides of the ball and were lucky to escape with a 1-point victory over a double-digit underdog.

Like I said: you’re a cheerleader, and a cultist. You have no analytical ability, and you think legitimate criticism is unfair. It’s not that you don’t judge the team on every play/every series. It’s that you have no ability to judge anything at all. I reiterate: mediocrity and excellence are the same to you. You cannot tell the difference. You think being a fan is the same as being knowledgeable. A common misconception held by cheerleaders. Feel free to directly quote anything I said that isn’t true. I dare you.
All of it isn’t true…there, that was easy. And criticizing everything they do doesn’t make you unbiased, in fact it makes you very biased, just the other way. I’m still waiting to hear from you which team wins every game easily whether they’re playing a double digit underdog or not….still waiting.
 

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I would argue that without emotional investment, being a sports fan is pointless.

Better for mental health, maybe. But if the outcomes of these games are immaterial, why am I watching? If I am hoping to revel in the thrill of victory, then I have to be willing to suffer the agony of defeat.

Mostly, I just want to see the team play well. There’s been precious little of that this season against a very weak schedule.
So they have to be perfect for you to consider them playing well…got it. And if you can’t enjoy a one point victory, or a ten point victory because they didn’t win by enough, then maybe sports isn’t your thing considering you have absolutely nothing to do with the outcome.
 

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Several times throughout the season I have heard people talk about whether or not PSU belongs ranked so highly or whether we even belong in the playoff (ridiculous!). We have no quality wins, have beaten only 1 ranked team (Illinois), lost to the only "good" team we played against with our strength of schedule being 32. However, I noticed that Texas, currently ranked ahead of us, has no quality wins, no wins against ranked teams, lost to the only "good" team they played (Georgia), and have a strength of schedule of 38, but I haven't heard anyone say that Texas shouldn't be ranked so highly or that they don't belong in the playoff. In fact, that team will more than likely be in their conference championship game. I will admit that I am not following Texas as closely as PSU, so maybe people are saying that about them and I just don't hear it.

Another issue I have is with Ohio St. People want to argue that they are the best team in the country (even though the lost to Oregon). People look at their schedule and say they have two quality wins (i.e. PSU and Indiana) but most of these same people are the ones saying that PSU and Indiana are so overrated. They can't have it both ways. If we (us and Indiana) aren't any good then we can't be Ohio St.'s quality wins. If we are their quality wins, then they have to admit we are pretty good.

My only criticism of an expanded playoff is that there will always be people complaining about who got in and who didn't. In the BCS days #3 complained. The last couple of years #5 complained. Now teams 10 - 15 or so are already complaining that they deserve to be in. There are 64 (or 68) teams in the NCAA tournament and there are still complaints about teams who didn't get in.
 

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Several times throughout the season I have heard people talk about whether or not PSU belongs ranked so highly or whether we even belong in the playoff (ridiculous!). We have no quality wins, have beaten only 1 ranked team (Illinois), lost to the only "good" team we played against with our strength of schedule being 32. However, I noticed that Texas, currently ranked ahead of us, has no quality wins, no wins against ranked teams, lost to the only "good" team they played (Georgia), and have a strength of schedule of 38, but I haven't heard anyone say that Texas shouldn't be ranked so highly or that they don't belong in the playoff. In fact, that team will more than likely be in their conference championship game. I will admit that I am not following Texas as closely as PSU, so maybe people are saying that about them and I just don't hear it.

Another issue I have is with Ohio St. People want to argue that they are the best team in the country (even though the lost to Oregon). People look at their schedule and say they have two quality wins (i.e. PSU and Indiana) but most of these same people are the ones saying that PSU and Indiana are so overrated. They can't have it both ways. If we (us and Indiana) aren't any good then we can't be Ohio St.'s quality wins. If we are their quality wins, then they have to admit we are pretty good.

My only criticism of an expanded playoff is that there will always be people complaining about who got in and who didn't. In the BCS days #3 complained. The last couple of years #5 complained. Now teams 10 - 15 or so are already complaining that they deserve to be in. There are 64 (or 68) teams in the NCAA tournament and there are still complaints about teams who didn't get in.
Did you watch the osu v O game? Both teams are way better than State.
 
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