Official PSU - Oregon '24 B1G Championship game thread

[Connorpozlee]

With all due respect, the call was not the problem.

And zero reason why not to try the play. Allar had a great game, but made a poor decision or poor throw, take your pick. There were other options, including throwing it out-of-bounds.

Taking a shot on 2nd and 1 is extremely common, almost to the point of being expected. On the other hand, as much of a gamer as Allar was for most of the game, the decision to throw to a clearly blanketed receiver led to the interception.

The problem was the call. 2nd and 1 with two minutes left, running backs that are going for about 10 yards a pop, I’m not looking to score right away. I want to score the touchdown to hopefully set up the tying two point conversion with as little time left on the clock as possible. It was a bad call, poor decision by Allar to make the throw, and poor officiating to not call interference.

 

[Phlebitis]

…was the right decision.

Explain? If it’s the right decision why doesn’t anyone else do it?

 

[NewEra 2014]

Penn State is going deep in the playoffs. A solid team on both sides of the ball who came up just a little short.

Too soft and finesse. The ceiling is the semi finals. But they have the talent to win it all with different coaching.

 

[LB99]

The lack of discipline and seemingly lack of preparation never ceases to amaze me.

I know. You would think the “All Star” refs would be better.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Oregon is exactly what Prime is trying to do at Colorado…difference is Oregon has a coach. The portal is no longer about patching holes….teams are spending more and more $$ to buy rings. Franklin and the boosters had better figure this out or we won’t be winning many postseason games going forward.

 

[PSUQbKeeper]

I wonder what a game would look like if they flagged every hold on Carter? Probably borderline unwatchable

 

[Nits1989]

Explain? If it’s the right decision why doesn’t anyone else do it?

Because Erial Lion says so, lol

 

[NewEra 2014]

…was the right decision.

Wrong.

 

[BiochemPSU]

Oregon is exactly what Prime is trying to do at Colorado…difference is Oregon has a coach. The portal is no longer about patching holes….teams are spending more and more $$ to buy rings. Franklin and the boosters had better figure this out or we won’t be winning many postseason games going forward.

Agreed. Except we brought in Fleming and Oregon brought in the guy who just won them the game.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Our loss combined with Texas losing made our path a little harder. The offense, though, should carry confidence into the first round whoever we play against. Tom Allen needs to find real solutions in the next couple weeks.

Something like the 6 seed with SMU/Indiana, Clemson, and Georgia with a potentially banged up QB sounds good to me.

maybe it’ll go elsewhere, but it could end up pretty good

 

[LB99]

I wonder what a game would look like if they flagged every hold on Carter? Probably borderline unwatchable

Even on the interception, the DB had a fistful of jersey. It wasn’t the worst I’ve seen, but it just adds to the frustration.

 

[LB99]

Something like the 6 seed with SMU/Indiana, Clemson, and Georgia with a potentially banged up QB sounds good to me.

maybe it’ll go elsewhere, but it could end up pretty good

Georgia will get a top 4 spot. PSU may be hosting Bama.

 

[stater02]

So who do we get? My guess is we slide to #6, playing #11. Does SMU slide out and ASU moves up 1 spot to 11?

 

[Connorpozlee]

Wrong.

Danielson said the analytics say it’s the right decision. I have no idea why that would be though. I would love somebody to explain it to me.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Huh?

You’ve never heard of an expedited review in football? It’s very common now.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Explain? If it’s the right decision why doesn’t anyone else do it?

Plenty do it. We have threads about it on here. Going for two there increases your chances of winning.

 

[BiochemPSU]

Plenty do it. We have threads about it on here. Going for two there increases your chances of winning.

Guess that’s why Oregon did it all game.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Georgia will get a top 4 spot

Really? Who would have guessed that?

 

[Psu00]

Hahahahaha, ok Mrs Franklin.

Yeah, that call was horrible given the game situation at the time.

 

[LB99]

Really? Who would have guessed that?

They are now one of the conference champs. The four highest ranked conference champs get the top four spots.

 

[PSUQbKeeper]

and not just because of this game but yeah I am reminded of it because of this game.......I freaking hate this whole new world of college football where you can go buy a bunch of players from other teams and trot them out there

even in basketball it kind of sucks, I am happy that PSU beat Purdue but I don't recognize the names, some of those guys got here like ten minutes ago......just kind of kills the fun of cheering for a college team in my opinion

I've avoided worrying about it because PSU football generally has all "home grown" guys and the ones who weren't....Ebiketie....Chop....Fleming....Rucci....were mostly guys who had a previous relationship

but of course that is going to end and if we want to compete we are probably going to have to black friday shop along with all the other big boys

it blows

enjoy your B1G championship Dillon Gabriel, I am sure you dreamed of winning one when you were at UCF and Oklahoma

 

[LB99]

Yeah, that call was horrible given the game situation at the time.

I didn’t agree with the call, but it ultimately had no bearing on the outcome.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Danielson said the analytics say it’s the right decision. I have no idea why that would be though. I would love somebody to explain it to me.

It’s 100% the right decision. We’ve had numerous threads on here. It adds 10+% onto your odds of winning. Not doing it at this point should be highly criticized.

 

[Snide75]

…was the right decision.

You can't be serious

 

[BiochemPSU]

Yeah, that call was horrible given the game situation at the time.

I actually think what made it worse was the later go for it 4th down call that Oregon made. Why not go for it? You are up by 8, you don’t need the field goal. House money at that point.

 

[psuno1]

Game was there for the taking 4 personal fouls (60 yards) in first 19 min, basically a pick 6, missing a field goal and not taking the extra point and the last bomb for a int on 2nd and 1 come on man.

 

[MrTailgate]

I’m like everyone else, I wanted them to run and bleed the clock. ORE could not stop the run and nothing makes me think they would have stopped it then. The other thing is that the boys don’t have a 50/50 wideout.

But I tip my hat for the effort against a team that is likely the better team. I was proud of them never giving in. Sure, I understand that there are no participation trophies but these guys can make noise. The biggest issue to me is the poor tackling. If they could magically clean this up, they can hang with anyone. Still a lot to do, it’s just getting started.

 

[NewEra 2014]

Danielson said the analytics say it’s the right decision. I have no idea why that would be though. I would love somebody to explain it to me.

Analytics don’t consider specifics. In that particular situation, with both teams moving up and down the field at will, it was way too early to go for 2. Plus, Danielson is reatarded.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

So who do we get? My guess is we slide to #6, playing #11. Does SMU slide out and ASU moves up 1 spot to 11?

I think we go to 8 hosting Tennessee. Texas, Ohio St., N.D., PSU.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Georgia will get a top 4 spot. PSU may be hosting Bama.

Exactly. Georgia will be 2.

 

[Phlebitis]

Plenty do it. We have threads about it on here. Going for two there increases your chances of winning.

I kind of remember that calculation. Where my non mathematician brain disagrees is not only in killing momentum, but putting added pressure on the team (and me) that now just a TD is only part of it, you still only have about a 50-50 chance to tie.

 

[BobPSU92]

If football was easy, everybody would win.

 

[BVSt.Paul]

Explain? If it’s the right decision why doesn’t anyone else do it?

I don’t necessarily agree with it, but a friend texted this to me at a the time. I think it puts too much pressure on the team if the 2 pt conversion fails.


Yeah been a new trend the last tew years


PAT is like 95% and 2 pt conversion is like 53%


So math says go for 2 down 14

 

[Erial_Lion]

They are now one of the conference champs. The four highest ranked conference champs get the top four spots.

I forgot the smiling emoji. On course Georgia is the #2.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Guess that’s why Oregon did it all game.

I have no idea what that’s supposed to mean.

 

[CDLionFL]

It’s 100% the right decision. We’ve had numerous threads on here. It adds 10+% onto your odds of winning. Not doing it at this point should be highly criticized.

I like you in the betting thread and I know you and Grant have explained this elsewhere as have others across the football landscape but the game is not played with calculators. It's played with feel. Dan Campbell with the Lions is a great example of that. The calculators don't take into account the other team's defense, a center that steps on the QB's foot, or a receiver that runs a wrong route. It's the same critique I have of baseball managers who just have to bring in this pinch hitter for a guy that was 3 for 3 in the game simply because the pinch hitter is a lefty and the pitcher is a righty. If a team wants to go for 2 when it's a 1-point game in order to win the game (like if SMU had done it), I'll never complain about it. But I just feel like you put yourself in a bigger bind down by 8 if you don't convert. And given our penchant for running dopey plays in goal line situations, I would think our probabilities wouldn't match whatever the baseline is.

 

[BiochemPSU]

Projection already coming in showing us getting Bama from the 6 spot.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Going for 2 down 8 points: Packers pull off come-from-behind win thanks to this strategy

The Packers profited from being the first team this season to try this unconventional 2-point conversion attempt. Here's why others should follow their lead.

www.espn.com

 

[Phlebitis]

Projection already coming in showing us getting Bama from the 6 spot.

We didn’t even have to play Michigan for them to screw us this year.

 

[LB99]

We didn’t even have to play Michigan for them to screw us this year.

If PSU gets the 6, then that is the right seeding. 5 goes to TX since they were ranked ahead of PSU. This means ND gets the 7, I assume, which makes sense. The committee shouldn’t penalize teams for playing in a conference championship game.