“In an impossible spot”?
The BOT authored and orchestrated the inferno.
Get. A. Clue
OT: To PSU Admin lurkers regarding the "mysterious" 10 year drought in athletics fundraising
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The BOT authored and orchestrated the inferno.
Get. A. Clue
Porn Fina’s wife once use the term “dead football coach” in a rant. Good call on agendA
Remember that the president of Penn State affirmed through his signature the validity of these assertions
The current board could certainly take steps toward reconciling with all alumni and thus help fix the damage which was done by the 2011 board. Back then Ken Frazier said we were all to blame, even the >99% of us who had never met Sandusky. The odds are good Frazier was one of the <1% who did personally meet Sandusky. Maybe the current board could issue a statement saying the 2011 board overreacted given the few facts which were available at the time. But that's dreamland and it'll never happen.
So the football program is entitled to other people's money? Keep digging, pilgrim.
Thank you. I am honored to be a Joebot. Beats being Surma Groupie any day.
Joe earned very little with respect to his peers. Maybe the first donation of 5 Million per year comes out of Franklin’s salary…for the length of contract….now we’re starting to talk about a coach who’s first priority is PSU…these dollars to be matched by Dambly and company and all his croanies who may millions on PSU construction projects.
Not entitled…..but it’s pathetic that people have before and won’t now because of Joe. That’s all.
Not to mention it was Jerry's friend's on the BOT who championed his emeritus access to FB facilities over Joe's objections.
Things changed and people adjusted their giving habits. Happens all the time.
You supporting James has done more to damage him than his loss to Illinois. I love the guy...please stop.
Nope, just want the football program to get the same level of support it did when JVP was coach. Not a huge ask.
There isn’t going to be a huge Honor JVP ceremony, there isn’t going to be a public PC where the BOT apologizes, they aren’t going to name the field after JVP. We all know this and anyone with common sense understands why.
Because those things would be the right things to do?
The "impossible " has been achieved by trustees at Michigan, Ohio State and MSU...all dealing with abuse scandals without pissing themselves and their universities.
Yes we do.Because Surma and his posse conspired to destroy Joe ...and jumped in bed with one term Tommy.
I support every PSU football coach while they are running the show. I’m sorry people cant balance their feelings about 2011 while also helping our current program.
It’s truly sad that both BOB and CJF haven’t got the support from these people. They both saved the program and got us into a position to be nationally relevant again.
THERE IT IS. Why did the program need to be saved!
Who hired Freeh for 8 million to "produce the desired results " and torch the program?
Why is it embarrassing when people choose how to spend their money? As far as what Joe wants, who are you to speak for Joe?
Do you actually believe JVP would want people to not financially support the football program?
Joe advocated donating to an institution when it embraced an honorable mission. A decade ago, the then BOT decided to change course. Previous donors don’t support this change and their money goes elsewhere. It’s that simple.
Joe respected people, apparently much more so than you, to make their own decisions.
Why do you invoke the name of a "dead" football coach when you think it bolsters your position?
Joe spoke out against injustices...even when his position was unpopular.
He’d probably be speaking out about the injustice being done to the current group of coaches and players by a portion of our alumni base.
Somehow you pretending to speak for Joe doesn't resonate with me. It sounds to me like you are speaking for Surma, Peetz, Frazier and co.
I’m not speaking for anyone or pretending to speak for anyone. I would just guess….based on the fact that JVP built the PSU football program and gave his entire life to it that he would want people to support it.
You would think that based on the fact that "JVP built the PSU football program and gave his entire life to it...." That the Trustees would recognize that.
(supporting you, Marshall):
Joe Paterno Press Conference Cancelled: PSU Officials Drop the Ball Yet Again
Well, there you go. Just like that, the press conference is canceled. The decision, apparently came down from the Penn State Board board of Trustees office.
I understand what Penn State officials were trying to do by calling off this press conference, but how can this really help?
Did they really think, “Oh, if we cancel it, all our problems will go away?” - John Surma
Did they really think, “Maybe people will start forgetting about the scandal if we just don’t talk to them?” - Karen Peetz
Did they really think, “The best way to fix this huge, monumental problem is to not answer questions and act like we have even more things to hide?” - Ken Frazier
. . . and yes, EVERYONE wanted to hear the "old guy's" side even if it was riddled with confusion due to his medical condition. The BOT cut him off at the knees and that was the end of his side. (aside from Sally Jenkin's much edited "story")
Joe put principles above the football program many times. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
If you read the replies here, you will note that it goes far deeper than that. Trust in the institution has been lost--and it has to do with how alumni and fans were treated by the university. At this point, for me, it has little to do with Joe. This issue was something, actually, that began before 2011--see how the STEP program was handled for example. Change likely was needed there, looking back. But the way it came across was insulting--seemingly almost intentionally. There are other examples.
I'm amused that some posters think the best way to get money from potential customers is to piss them off and insult them like the BOT is doing. I think the dead football coach would probably tell them to focus more on their academics.
Amends to the Alumni for reconcilliation....1) Formal apology to JVP, family, all of football staff for the accusations of football first and only culture. 2) Restore Statue and presentation with plaque apologizing by BOT for using a gifted piece of art as a symbol of JVP poor culture 3) Removal of Rodney Erickson name from any building his name is assigned. 4) Removal of ALL BOT MEMBERS that blindly followed the false narrative constructed by Surma, Peetz, Frazier, et al for failing in their fiduciary responsibility to safe guard the values, image, fiscal strength, prestige of the Pennsylvania State University 5) Elimination of guaranteed appointments to BOT from Agriculture and 50% of entire BOT must be elected to a 3 year term. ...BOT size not to exceed 17. 6) Restitution to all alumni in form of official apology letter and $5,000.00 for lost opportunities due to disgrace and perceived value of a PSU degree.
7) Ability to amend reconcilliation requirments.
The OGBOT could all be included in "Profiles in Cowardice". And asking alumni to give even indirect support to their lies and their coverup is absurd.
And One Term Tommy should be in jail.
And One Term Tommy should be in jail.
Injustice? Coach who is paid $8mm p.a. Brand spanking new facilities. Players who don't seem to want for anything. Cry me the Nile.
Yes! Curtis Enis . . . Rashard Casey? Joe would hold out players
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