POLL: Your Choice For Next Offensive Coordinator?
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thats interesting because Marion the "system" guy has also maximized his player skill sets and adapts his "system" to use those skill sets
did you not see this video? 3 different ways to apply the "system"
gee who woulda thunk there are actual ALL TYPES of coaches that do this.... but yet not ALL coaches
see I can use the word "system" too
Yeah Kansas you know also plays in that defensive powerhouse conference since that seems to be the bar everyone wants to measure these guys by
Hey he loves being in Kansas so we will see how much he loves KU
I would expect him to get a lot of interest.
OTTOMH, if he is available, I would have him on the very short list.
What he and Leopold did the last few years at Kansas (despite a series of key injuries, including to their QBs) has been nothing short of amazing.
Obviously, had a lot of success - particularly on offense - at U Buffalo as well.
People forget, Leopold really elevated the Buffalo (MAC) team in his few years there. Previous to that, he won several Natties as HC of Wisconsin Whitewater. Kansas hired him with the proviso that they build a program around him. They have dedicated a lot of money to facilities. Having said all of that, I have no idea if his OC or DC are dedicated. My guess is that money talks and whoever offers the most money with the best upward ability will take it.
FWIW:
Kotelniki recently (this year? last year?) got a big raise to $1 Mill per year at Kansas.
Also, he would make a certain segment of the fan base happy - because he looks like Matt Rhule's "SAB"
LOL, no certification or special knowledge required to be a member of the BWICAC.
He's also been with Leipold since his Wisconsin Whitewater days. It may be further but they've been together, as HC and OC, for over ten years.FWIW:
Kotelniki recently (this year? last year?) got a big raise to $1 Mill per year at Kansas.
Also, he would make a certain segment of the fan base happy - because he looks like Matt Rhule's "SAB"
LOL, no certification or special knowledge required to be a member of the BWICAC.
We’re exclusive. Or is it elusive? No, no. It‘s effusive.
I agree. The Pac-12 and most of the Big12 are also non/limited-defense conferences.
Have you done any research on him? I suggest you do and I can guaranteee you’ll come away with a somewhat different perspective. He has been able to adapt his offenses to the teams’ strengths, whether it be the QB and the passing game or the RBs and the run game. Oh, btw, Buffalo put up some pretty good offensive stats (245 passing yards) against a pretty good defense in 2019.
Not so much anymore, in the Big 12.
Baylor was, I believe, the only Big 12 program that allowed more than 30 per game this year.
5-10 years ago, back when Briles and the like were coaching in the Big 12, it seemed everyone was having 50 point track meets. Not so much anymore.
It’s honestly not gonna matter much either way.
I have (a little) and first pass he does seem like a wide open kind of guy... I guess I am just thinking of the "shock value" to perspective WR candidates, does he excite the top prospects? The description of him seems similar to what people were saying about Yucich
Why would it? Yurcich was clearly not on the same page as Franklin, but Franklin is still here and he still has his offensive philosophy and game management style. An OC isn’t going to get us over the hump or improve Franklin’s understanding of analytics. Better players can compensate. Let’s hope we get them. We can go 10-2 with Seider as OC; just let him have the job.
I don’t disagree on the MY discussion comparison. However, to me at least, It seems that Kotelnicki has had his hands on the wheel of scheme development and play calling longer than MY and has had success adapting to players. The thing which always concerned me about MY was that his stints at OSU and Texas seemed to be just to not screw things up with Day and Herman and the talent assembled.
"just don't screw up" is a terrific way to describe the play calling against OSU and UM... I was at the Michigan game and it was like chewing tin foil watching the play calling
I believe that is your opinion and not necessarily fact. Many people very close to the program have definitively stated that Franklin does not have a significant role in offensive game planning nor game day play calling. I will take their views even over my own as I am nothing but an outsider who only sees the 10-15 offensive series each game day. I will continue to believe that our best days are ahead and that a creative, instinctive OC can overcome the perennial 2 losses.
I think Franklin’s comments about letting players me I miss what they can do instead of focusing on what they can’t, says a lot about how MY managed the offense.
Like the optimism but don’t share it. And yes, my opinion only. Franklin doesn’t micromanage every game call but it’s his vision; until he changes his reliance on analytics and better understands play clock/game management, I just don’t think coaches matter much but players will. Michigan is very winnable next year and a good example of players being the difference - their stand in coach beat two top ten teams in three weeks - but, they lose a ton next year. We’ll see I guess.
Notice none of the past OC's are crying foul about this either. Those close to the program and reporting on this can only say it so many ways, but this nonsense that he is holding the OC's back or dialing it back is a joke. Anyone can question single play calls that fail or timeouts....it's a part of the deal, but this common misconception that anyone out there can win 10 games a year and it's a fluke that he does this is really just venting. It was said a few times online about JF interfering frequently with the O so it became fact like so many other things even though it's not true.
PSU lost to 2 teams that were better on paper, were favored, and just because we are a step closer it means it's over and PSU cannot win with JF in charge. We have no idea how next year shakes out as year to year in college now is crazy between incoming recruits and the portal....you have no idea on how next year turns out. Never to early to say PSU should beat TEAM A though....it makes it sound like people have some clue about next year when they really don't. There will be turnover all over the place and tOSU apparently won the scheduling lottery with next year...go figure.
Interesting option. I don't know a lot about him, but I know that Kansas uses a lot of motion and can be very confusing to defenses. I thought their offensive success was due to Jalon Daniels, but they didn't really miss a beat with Jason Bean. I still prefer gambling on Marion, but I wouldn't be disappointed in this hire.
Definitely believe anyone at Penn State can win the 10 games a year they are favored to win. Nearly 100% of the time. With any coach.
I’ll give it a shot.
Any head coach who DOESN'T "interfere" - as quickly as possible - with any part of the program that isn't working well is not doing his job.
Whether that be on the practice field, in the staff meeting rooms, during game day prep, during schematic meetings, recruiting processes, or - when needed - with changing the composition of the staff.
That's their job.
Over the last 3 years, PSU's offense has averaged 22 points per game against ranked teams. For comparison, Michigan averaged 33 ppg, OSU 32.5 ppg against ranked teams over that same time (FWIW: Prior to coming to PSU, offenses where MY was the OC averaged 35 ppg against ranked teams).
The concerns certainly did not become obvious just last month. Right?
Whether that be on the practice field, in the staff meeting rooms, during game day prep, during schematic meetings, recruiting processes, or - when needed - with changing the composition of the staff.
That's their job.
Over the last 3 years, PSU's offense has averaged 22 points per game against ranked teams. For comparison, Michigan averaged 33 ppg, OSU 32.5 ppg against ranked teams over that same time (FWIW: Prior to coming to PSU, offenses where MY was the OC averaged 35 ppg against ranked teams).
The concerns certainly did not become obvious just last month. Right?
I’ve read the play it safe routine on offensive schemes is what keeps costing Day in the Michigan games .
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I used to give out a Richie Kotite Award in my FFL to the coach who made the dumbest move to cost his team the game
Then you should have no qualms about PSU losing to OSu and UM nearly 100 percent of the time since they are almost always favored.
Then who are you hiring to call the running plays?
Easy to make opinions up when they cannot be proven. This coach won’t do it every year nor has any PSU HC won 10 games every year. It sounds easy but it’s clearly not true. They are in a good spot now due to the current HC, but that doesn’t mean the next HC will succeed. It doesn’t mean he cannot do better but it’s just a guess.
Sure, it’s my opinion based on a) how well Franklin recruits (which is better than everyone in the conference save two teams), and b) the serious lack of competition in the B1G after the top two schools. That will change next year with four decent to good quality opponents joining. Joe never recruited as well as Franklin while in the B1G. Franklin should do better (and is mostly).
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