Sign for $12M per yr and have language to force spending on a real o-line. That way he’ll be the #1 rusher in the league and make fartloads of money in adverts. Soak too much of that $, and that o-line will continue to suck
Report: Saquon Barkley rejected Giants offer worth up to $14 million
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I believe Saquon retweeting it says that he's looking for a more guaranteed contract than they've offered.
The Giants are paying Jones and Lawrence $65M a year from now on. That doesn’t leave a ton of $ for star OLs.
Sure, work that language into a contract, salary cap and all. Sorry, but Gettleman's gone.
Not as much as the defense’s will in the nfc east. SeaRay’s are good boats though
Ex-NFL agent: Giants pulling Saquon Barkley offer an ‘unusual step’
96John Fennelly
Thu, May 18, 2023 at 7:55 AM EDT
New York Giants Pro Bowl running back Saquon Barkley is still in contract limbo at the moment, having reportedly turned down several offers from the team while also expressing reluctance about playing under the franchise tag.
Barkley’s representatives and Giants general manager Joe Schoen have been working on and off on a contract extension that could pay Barkley anywhere from $12.5 to $14 million per year.
Barkley has reportedly turned down all offers from the Giants which forced them to use the franchise tag (worth $10.1 million for one year) on him in March.
Since then, the two sides have been volleying back and forth but it is believed that they are no closer to a deal.
In a recent interview with Ed Valentine of Big Blue View, CBS Sports salary cap analyst and former NFL agent, Joel Corry, said he was “surprised” the Giants pulled their original offer to Barkley.
“Usually (when) you table discussions, that offer remains. Pulling the offer raised eyebrows to me,” Corry said. “That’s an unusual step. Maybe that’s how Schoen is going to do things in the future, but that would send a message to me if I’m the player that this is going to be a truly tough negotiation.”
Corry also shot down the notion that the Giants will tag Barkley again next year at a cost of roughly $12 million.
“Not getting done. Two [franchise] tags is $22 million. You’ve gotta give the guy a way to save face in a negotiation. You’re not giving him a chance to save face,” he said.
Barkley wants to be compensated among the top backs in the league. The issue is, those numbers aren’t as lucrative as one might think. Only two backs — San Francisco’s Christian McCaffrey ($16 million) and New Orleans’ Alvin Kamara ($15 million) — are currently being paid over $12.5 million AAV.
That means Barkley and the Giants can’t be very far apart but it doesn’t seem like a deal is imminent. This could come down to July 17, which is the deadline for a franchise-tagged player to strike a long-term deal.
Until then, Barkley will sit out. And he could miss mandatory minicamp next month, which would create quite a media stir.
Ex-NFL agent: Giants pulling Saquon Barkley offer an ‘unusual step’ (yahoo.com)
I thought I was going to read they pulled the franchise tag from him, then what happens? would somebody step up and give him what he wants? IMO not realistic in this NFL eraEx-NFL agent: Giants pulling Saquon Barkley offer an ‘unusual step’
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John Fennelly
Thu, May 18, 2023 at 7:55 AM EDT
New York Giants Pro Bowl running back Saquon Barkley is still in contract limbo at the moment, having reportedly turned down several offers from the team while also expressing reluctance about playing under the franchise tag.
Barkley’s representatives and Giants general manager Joe Schoen have been working on and off on a contract extension that could pay Barkley anywhere from $12.5 to $14 million per year.
Barkley has reportedly turned down all offers from the Giants which forced them to use the franchise tag (worth $10.1 million for one year) on him in March.
Since then, the two sides have been volleying back and forth but it is believed that they are no closer to a deal.
In a recent interview with Ed Valentine of Big Blue View, CBS Sports salary cap analyst and former NFL agent, Joel Corry, said he was “surprised” the Giants pulled their original offer to Barkley.
“Usually (when) you table discussions, that offer remains. Pulling the offer raised eyebrows to me,” Corry said. “That’s an unusual step. Maybe that’s how Schoen is going to do things in the future, but that would send a message to me if I’m the player that this is going to be a truly tough negotiation.”
Corry also shot down the notion that the Giants will tag Barkley again next year at a cost of roughly $12 million.
“Not getting done. Two [franchise] tags is $22 million. You’ve gotta give the guy a way to save face in a negotiation. You’re not giving him a chance to save face,” he said.
Barkley wants to be compensated among the top backs in the league. The issue is, those numbers aren’t as lucrative as one might think. Only two backs — San Francisco’s Christian McCaffrey ($16 million) and New Orleans’ Alvin Kamara ($15 million) — are currently being paid over $12.5 million AAV.
That means Barkley and the Giants can’t be very far apart but it doesn’t seem like a deal is imminent. This could come down to July 17, which is the deadline for a franchise-tagged player to strike a long-term deal.
Until then, Barkley will sit out. And he could miss mandatory minicamp next month, which would create quite a media stir.
Ex-NFL agent: Giants pulling Saquon Barkley offer an ‘unusual step’ (yahoo.com)
It would be a blast watching him play for the KC Chiefs.Ex-NFL agent: Giants pulling Saquon Barkley offer an ‘unusual step’
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John Fennelly
Thu, May 18, 2023 at 7:55 AM EDT
New York Giants Pro Bowl running back Saquon Barkley is still in contract limbo at the moment, having reportedly turned down several offers from the team while also expressing reluctance about playing under the franchise tag.
Barkley’s representatives and Giants general manager Joe Schoen have been working on and off on a contract extension that could pay Barkley anywhere from $12.5 to $14 million per year.
Barkley has reportedly turned down all offers from the Giants which forced them to use the franchise tag (worth $10.1 million for one year) on him in March.
Since then, the two sides have been volleying back and forth but it is believed that they are no closer to a deal.
In a recent interview with Ed Valentine of Big Blue View, CBS Sports salary cap analyst and former NFL agent, Joel Corry, said he was “surprised” the Giants pulled their original offer to Barkley.
“Usually (when) you table discussions, that offer remains. Pulling the offer raised eyebrows to me,” Corry said. “That’s an unusual step. Maybe that’s how Schoen is going to do things in the future, but that would send a message to me if I’m the player that this is going to be a truly tough negotiation.”
Corry also shot down the notion that the Giants will tag Barkley again next year at a cost of roughly $12 million.
“Not getting done. Two [franchise] tags is $22 million. You’ve gotta give the guy a way to save face in a negotiation. You’re not giving him a chance to save face,” he said.
Barkley wants to be compensated among the top backs in the league. The issue is, those numbers aren’t as lucrative as one might think. Only two backs — San Francisco’s Christian McCaffrey ($16 million) and New Orleans’ Alvin Kamara ($15 million) — are currently being paid over $12.5 million AAV.
That means Barkley and the Giants can’t be very far apart but it doesn’t seem like a deal is imminent. This could come down to July 17, which is the deadline for a franchise-tagged player to strike a long-term deal.
Until then, Barkley will sit out. And he could miss mandatory minicamp next month, which would create quite a media stir.
Ex-NFL agent: Giants pulling Saquon Barkley offer an ‘unusual step’ (yahoo.com)
NFL agent ripping Saquon Barkley for declining Giants offer has people talking
No one knows how the Saquon Barkley drama is going to end this offseason, but a lot of NY Giants fans are starting to get concerned about the Pro Bowl running b
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What’s interesting is that running back may be the first example of a positional group devaluing significantly in a short period.NFL agent ripping Saquon Barkley for declining Giants offer has people talking
No one knows how the Saquon Barkley drama is going to end this offseason, but a lot of NY Giants fans are starting to get concerned about the Pro Bowl running b
The McCaffrey and Kamala deals are 2-3 years old and now top deals are maybe 40% lower in annual average comp. That’s crazy.
I can understand Saquon’s frustration, but the point about the agent is spot on. These offers are going down not up. It’s the agent’s job to manage that.
Don't forget to factor in the Ravens RB coming in at $52 million a season.
This is his one shot at maximizing his income. I don't blame him, and I don't blame the Giants- it's only business.
Chiefs know better than that:
Isiah Pacheco signed a 4 year, $3,739,108 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $79,108 signing bonus, $79,108 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $934,777.
The proper way;
D'Andre Swift's contract: Veteran will make $1.7M with Eagles in 2023. The Eagles traded for D'Andre Swift on Saturday, and they'll acquire the talented dual-threat running back at a valuable bargain. A second-round Lions pick out of Georgia; Swift will make $1.7 million in the final year of his rookie deal.
and
2022-2022. Rashaad Penny signed a 4 year, $10,765,438 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including a $5,909,409 signing bonus, $9,796,099 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,691,360.
these 2 are gonna KILL this year
D'Andre Swift's contract: Veteran will make $1.7M with Eagles in 2023. The Eagles traded for D'Andre Swift on Saturday, and they'll acquire the talented dual-threat running back at a valuable bargain. A second-round Lions pick out of Georgia; Swift will make $1.7 million in the final year of his rookie deal.
and
2022-2022. Rashaad Penny signed a 4 year, $10,765,438 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including a $5,909,409 signing bonus, $9,796,099 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,691,360.
these 2 are gonna KILL this year
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Can you really have a contract that says the team must spend on an O line…
A clause to the effect that "Team A must spend a minimum of $XX,000,000 on offensive linemen or (spell out consequences of failure to comply)......." For pretty obvious reasons, no team would accede to that demand, so, no.
Although, Patrick Ewing once had a contract that said he had to be the highest paid center in the NBA (or something along those lines).
That's reasonably simple and bi-lateral; it only deals with a player's comp and nothing more. I can imagine Joe Schoen's reaction to the initial request, something along the lines of "how much more of my job do you want me to cede to you?" Or, "would you like me to tell Coach Daboll that you have to approve any play he calls?"
It seems the Giants had to prioritize resigning, QB, DT and RB. We know how that got stack ranked.
I don’t blame Schoen at all for how he’s approached this. The Giants have a GM acting in their best long term interests for a change. Even that bad Jones contract isn’t a terribly long time and they had no other options.
I dislike the Giants almost as much as I do the J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. But when the players start running the asylum, that's time to fire both the players and the front office. Saquon is smart enough to know that even if some of his fans aren't.
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Le'Veon was older and dumber then than Barkley
Barkley will get at or near what McCaffrey got. Those two are both entering their what is usually a RB's 3 year prime window before the fall. Bell was a product of a system. Until last year Barkley had to get around the Giants system.
I agree paying RBs big money is not usually smart but a few are different.
Barkley will get at or near what McCaffrey got. Those two are both entering their what is usually a RB's 3 year prime window before the fall. Bell was a product of a system. Until last year Barkley had to get around the Giants system.
I agree paying RBs big money is not usually smart but a few are different.
It’s a fact of NFL life that different positions pay differently. Too bad for Saquon. I am nominally agnostic on holdouts, as I consider them to be just part of the game, but he’s passing up an awful lot of money. OTOH: guaranteed money. Ah, WTHDIK? Saquon will Saquon, he’s good at this.
I don't think Saquon gets near what McCaffrey and Kamara got. The talking heads (one a former NFL GM) on NFL XMSirius were saying the RB franchise tag number will actually go down between this year and next.
There were something like 20 RBs drafted and another 27 signed as rookie free agents. There are just so many productive players out there at RB and the separation of impact isn't worth going from $500k a year to $16 million. It's just not in the current game.
If u watch how teams play D vs the Giants, the ENTIRE D follows Barkley’s every move, and over-commit to stopping him, He’s priority #1. That’s how the Danny Dimes gets so many rushing yards and how anything works for the Giants O. Without Barkley, they will have nothing going for them at all. They’ve got to make him at the top of RB pay.
Maybe with Saquon it isn’t about the $$$$. Maybe he wants to, for the first time since high school, enjoy the luxury of running behind an OL that will open holes and allow him to demonstrate his physical gifts.
Barkley unsure if new deal gets done with Giants
Saquon Barkley confirmed he has yet to sign the franchise tag and said he would at least contemplate sitting out the season if a new deal with the Giants can't be reached.
www.espn.com
Frustrated with Giants' leaks, Saquon Barkley doesn't rule out holdout into season
The Giants have until July 17 to get a long-term contract completed with Saquon Barkley.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
That’s what I was thinking….maybe he just doesn’t want to play for the Giants anymore and who can blame him?
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