The problem is that the same power brokers who forced the franchise tag system can also collude and not pay him after a year off.
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The price paid for having a collective bargaining agreement.
As for "collusion," Saquon ought to stick to lugging the rock. What he's asking for in a contract plus two first rounders is more than enough to keep other teams away.
Because if THE RICK knows not to blow your wad on a RB, at least 88% of GMs know this as well.
He can't just sign with anyone. The Giants franchised him. Barkley's options are to sign the franchise tender, re-sign a new contract with the Giants, or sit out a year and become a free agent for 2024.
The Giants options are the same except they can trade him or take the franchise tender off and let him become an unrestricted free agent.
In his latest interview Barkley said "it's not even July yet". Meaning he's using time as a negotiating tactic, which seems to be working with what the Giants latest offer reverts to.
It's a non-exclusive tag. He can negotiate with other teams, but the Giants have the right to match any offer. If he winds up signing with another team, that team has to give the Giants two first-round draft picks.
Even if Barkley sits out 2023, the Giants retain his rights. They can tag him again in 2024.
Ah, forgot about that. No other team has ever signed a player that's non-exclusuive, correct?
I know it's not my money or life but I can't imagine holding out for $16 mil over a $14 mil offer. I'm sure there are other details but if he wants to be in NY, having a contract and peace of mind means something too.
pretty sure they can negotiate the compensation, but they dont have to. Point is, you have a pia you want to get rid of, you could take just 1 1st rd or 2 seconds etc.
I believe it's about the guaranteed money part of the deal. Saquon has already said he's not looking to be the highest paid RB to set the market.
That's what Pat Kirwan was saying on the NFL Sirius broadcast this morning. In the cap era, teams have to make tough choices on where to invest in their rosters. It's very clearly a passing league now. QBs and WRs have greater longevity and are more likely to play a higher % of snaps over the lifetime of a long-term contract. That's why the dollars and deals have flowed away from RBs and to WRs.
Keep demonizing Saquon for not signing a crap offer. This isn't theatrics. He did the same for my family at a B/W game when he first got drafted. He's a real one.
Must be nice. Saquon is the perfect teammate, a loyal wage slave of the Giants and a transcendent talent. If anyone ever deserved to be overpaid its him
Did you ever hear Mark Schlereth talk about all his knee surgeries and then getting cut by the Redskins? He’s still pretty salty about it. It’s a ruthless, cut throat business. Teams don’t care about what kind of guy or teammate you are. It’s produce now or you are gone and they won’t think twice about it. Smart teams don’t overpay for one specific player, but since they gave all that money to Jones, you would think Saquon would be compensated a bit more.
Problem is that since they grossly overpaid Jones, they didn't have money leftover for Barkley.
I would have tagged Jones. Doubt that any team would give him anywhere what the Giants paid AND surrendered two first round picks in the bargain. Would have given the Giants the opportunity to determine if Lunkhead was a flash in the pan and provided cap space to sign Barkley to a better deal.
Totally disagree with this. If the Giants need cap room they can find it. Any GM can do that. SB as much as we may love him is a RB, his best deal was to get tagged, they just aren’t paying those guys because they don’t need to. Heck Delvin Cook would love to sign for $10 mil.
I think by the end of next yr JONES’ deal will look cheap.
I posted in this very thread that the Giants deal for $14 mm a year is back on the table. So, no, his best deal isn't to get tagged. Unless you're talking about guaranteed money, which a tag does.
Have they?
One prominent player agent told The Post turning down an offer in the $12 million-$13 million a year range was “dumb” as long as the structure was fair — about 60 percent in guaranteed money. The agent believes the framework for a market-value Barkley deal should now average around $8 million or $9 million per year and that a three-year, $30 million package — with a guarantee of about $18 million — would be “pretty rich.’’
@Rapsheet is Ian Rappaport that works directly for the NFL network. He's the guy that was referenced in the Tweet. I know you choose NBC Sports as your trusted news source, but it doesn't get more straight than a channel that the NFL pays to air. Barkley is going to get much more than you think and you are going to tell us how stupid it is because RB don't deserve it. Meanwhile, WR that MAY touch the ball 8 times a game are getting $20 mm a season while a guy like Barkley touches the ball 20-25 times a game on the ground and through the air. SMH
I know how capitalism works and I also know how collusion works.
Tell me how the 49ers are able to keep all of their star players on the team while still paying Christian McCaffery $16mm a year? It's not just QB on a rookie contract.
So these owners collude to pay Daniel Jones $40MM, and Saquon Barkley peanuts? LOL What possible motive would teams have to artificially decide to pay running backs, or specifically Saquon Barkley less than market value? Some NFL teams have learned that they can still be profitable without spending for competitive teams. The giants are not one of those teams.
Owners and GM are scared
-less to sign high percentage guaranteed contracts to contact positions. That's all this comes down to. Saquon says it's not even July yet, which is the hard date to get a contract in place. That's his bargaining chip and he's using it because that's all he's got besides a hold out.
McCaffery counts $3.5mm against their cap this year. Teams just need to be creative with contracts to find money. Some GM's suck at it.
and based on this, he wont be a 49er in 2024 unless something changes...
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They don’t invest as much money in the most injury prone position in football. This isn’t collusion. It’s a risk based business decision.Owners and GM are scared
So when did you change the subject to salary cap maneuvering? LOL
Yet how many QB missed multiple games last season because of concussion or other injuries?
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