Saban lays out UF struggles

[PSUJam]

Does this sound familiar? @NateBauer

"And sometimes the fanbase can just think ‘Well we can show up and expect to win.’ And not make the commitment to the program that you need to make to be able to continue to make the changes and investments you need to make to keep up with changing times."

 

[razpsu]

So blame the fans and not the head coach?

 

[Nitt1300]

I like Saban. And he sure as hell knows more than any fan does.

 

[Marshall2323]

Not the coaches fault? Heresy. The BWICAC wants equal time.

 

[step.eng69]

Does this sound familiar? @NateBauer

"And sometimes the fanbase can just think ‘Well we can show up and expect to win.’ And not make the commitment to the program that you need to make to be able to continue to make the changes and investments you need to make to keep up with changing times."

Always like Saint Nick, all the way back to his term at Mich St U.
I'm sure he'd still be coaching if it weren't for the Wild West Show currently happening.

 

[PSUJam]

Always like Saint Nick, all the way back to his term at Mich St U.
I'm sure he'd still be coaching if it weren't for the Wild West Show currently happening.

It was his own personal Wild West Show for many years then things got evened up and he bailed. I do like him though. One of the best ever, if not the best.

 

[Midnighter]

Does this sound familiar? @NateBauer

"And sometimes the fanbase can just think ‘Well we can show up and expect to win.’ And not make the commitment to the program that you need to make to be able to continue to make the changes and investments you need to make to keep up with changing times."

Saban quit because he didn’t want to keep up with the times. Kinda funny.

 

[LB99]

Saban quit because he didn’t want to keep up with the times. Kinda funny.

He’s 72 with nothing left to prove. I don’t blame him. Begging 18 year olds and bargaining cash with them and their families, then schmoozing donors to give even more to pay the players sounds awful. Then in your free time, you game plan, which seems like an afterthought for a head coach in today's game. Then at the end of the season, you have to beg your own players to stay and figure out a way to get them more money so they don’t leave. Sounds awful.

 

[Midnighter]

He’s 72 with nothing left to prove. I don’t blame him. Begging 18 year olds and bargaining cash with them and their families, then schmoozing donors to give even more to pay the players sounds awful. Then in your free time, you game plan, which seems like an afterthought for a head coach in today's game. Then at the end of the season, you have to beg your own players to stay and figure out a way to get them more money so they don’t leave. Sounds awful.

He liked it when he could give out Dodge Chargers and pay players without getting caught; once everyone could do it he bails. It does suck being a HC now but the playing field is level.

 

[BiochemPSU]

He liked it when he could give out Dodge Chargers and pay players without getting caught; once everyone could do it he bails. It does suck being a HC now but the playing field is level.

Exactly. Dont call Nick Saban about playing on a level field or with an inferior product that he has to actually coach up a team. He doesn’t want any part of that. He ran out of the NFL and the dolphins as fast as he could because that actually was a level playing field that he couldn’t manipulate. Never looked back either.

 

[LionJim]

Exactly. Dont call Nick Saban about playing on a level field or with an inferior product that he has to actually coach up a team. He doesn’t want any part of that. He ran out of the NFL and the dolphins as fast as he could because that actually was a level playing field that he couldn’t manipulate. Never looked back either.

It bothers me when people say Saban was the greatest college coach of all time. One would think that the greatest college coach of all time would do a passable job in the NFL.

 

[cac@PSU]

Joe was a wise man, he knew the pro game was a different animal.

 

[NittanyBuff]

It bothers me when people say Saban was the greatest college coach of all time. One would think that the greatest college coach of all time would do a passable job in the NFL.

Not sure why you are bothered by it, he is by most everyone's account the Goat and I'm sure had to stuck it out in the NFL he figures it out.

 

[Midnighter]

Switzer, Johnson, & Carroll - only three to win Super Bowl and National Championship.

 

[BobPSU92]

Switzer, Johnson, & Carroll - only three to win Super Bowl and National Championship.

Is switzer the only coach to get caught with a gun at the airport?

 

[LaJollaCreek]

He’s 72 with nothing left to prove. I don’t blame him. Begging 18 year olds and bargaining cash with them and their families, then schmoozing donors to give even more to pay the players sounds awful. Then in your free time, you game plan, which seems like an afterthought for a head coach in today's game. Then at the end of the season, you have to beg your own players to stay and figure out a way to get them more money so they don’t leave. Sounds awful.

He also left when the playing field got leveled though.

 

[LionJim]

Not sure why you are bothered by it, he is by most everyone's account the Goat and I'm sure had to stuck it out in the NFL he figures it out.

Probably because, like Jimmy Johnson, he won his championships with the best players available. How good a coach do you have to be to win with players with that level of talent? Why are we to assume that Saban was a better coach than, say, Don James, who just about everyone thought was a superb coach?

Also, I guess I should admit that I got a stick up my *** about how Alabama players were, imo, on the take.

 

[Midnighter]

Probably because, like Jimmy Johnson, he won his championships with the best players available. How good a coach do you have to be to win with players with that level of talent? Why are we to assume that Saban was a better coach than, say, Don James, who just about everyone thought was a superb coach?

Also, I guess I should admit that I got a stick up my *** about how Alabama players were, imo, on the take.

Just look at Bama’s recruiting class rankings for Saban’s entire tenure - by year two he’s top five and doesn’t do much worse than 1 or 2 the rest of his career. Then add in over recruiting and processing. It’s like having the fastest car on the track and everyone being shocked that you’re winning all the time.

 

[Nitt1300]

He liked it when he could give out Dodge Chargers and pay players without getting caught; once everyone could do it he bails. It does suck being a HC now but the playing field is level.

like hell it is- the schools with the most money are the winners here and we aren't in that group

 

[PSUJam]

like hell it is- the schools with the most money are the winners here and we aren't in that group

 

[PSUJam]

Just look at Bama’s recruiting class rankings for Saban’s entire tenure - by year two he’s top five and doesn’t do much worse than 1 or 2 the rest of his career. Then add in over recruiting and processing. It’s like having the fastest car on the track and everyone being shocked that you’re winning all the time.

Saban basically admitted that it's the Jimmys and Joes on live TV while defending the UF coaches. It's now just a matter of how do we get the best Jimmy's and Joes.

Even Marshall agrees that coaches do nothing and don't matter.

 

[Midnighter]

Saban basically admitted that it's the Jimmys and Joes on live TV while defending the UF coaches. It's now just a matter of how do we get the best Jimmy's and Joes.

Even Marshall agrees that coaches do nothing and don't matter.

I mean that every school has the same opportunity to lure players with cash - not that they all have the same cash.

 

[PSUJam]

I mean that every school has the same opportunity to lure players with cash - not that they all have the same cash.

Indeed.

 

[Nitt1300]

I mean that every school has the same opportunity to lure players with cash - not that they all have the same cash.

I guess that you and I have the same opportunity to buy a $100 million yacht as Bill Gates does, except that Bill has the money to pay for one.