My wife agrees with you Fair, in the mean time...
ME....I'll continue contributing to the Levi Lamb Fund wishing to help all Penn State athletes in their endeavor.
Shrews to ND nfm
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ME....I'll continue contributing to the Levi Lamb Fund wishing to help all Penn State athletes in their endeavor.
You are a good man step. We differ on support (as you know, after 40 years of giving, I no longer donate) but I respect your approach and I may...someday...return as a prodigal son.
I'd say the same if that dickwad let the team know he was going to leave so they didn't have to find out through social media.
Typical Domer.
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We're not blaming the students/alumni and other fans are we? As I said in a previous thread, a dedicated following has to be earned. For most of the regular season, the team did not do that nor has our overall basketball tradition. It looked as though we might have been on the right path for a change, but he obviously never had any plans on staying at Penn State. This stuff about being an Indiana native is BS. He was going to jump at the first chance he got, despite his recent disingenuous garbage.
Then PSU is doomed to basketball mediocrity. If that's the reality then the AD should hire on the cheap and simply bank the money the Big Ten sends PSU's way.
Let’s see, why leave?
1. Embarrassing fan support as shown thru PSU attendance.
2. An NIL program that some say is the worst in the B1G
3. An Athletic Department with a history of making basketball less important than any other B1G school
4. A history of his career being in the state of Indiana
5. Prospects for a truly awful team next year.
I have no reason to begrudge the man leaving.
I don’t blame the AD who inherited this God awful mess.
Since I hate the direction of college sports, NIL, and likely future outright employment of athletes, I can’t really be all that upset. Things are what they are. The fact PSU got hot and made March Madness without as yet totally selling out to the new normal is good enough for me.
1. Embarrassing fan support as shown thru PSU attendance.
2. An NIL program that some say is the worst in the B1G
3. An Athletic Department with a history of making basketball less important than any other B1G school
4. A history of his career being in the state of Indiana
5. Prospects for a truly awful team next year.
I have no reason to begrudge the man leaving.
I don’t blame the AD who inherited this God awful mess.
Since I hate the direction of college sports, NIL, and likely future outright employment of athletes, I can’t really be all that upset. Things are what they are. The fact PSU got hot and made March Madness without as yet totally selling out to the new normal is good enough for me.
People should reject this nonsense. He gave us a Late season run and March Madness. What else did he owe us?
It’s not like he’s a football coach who targets elite status and fails to deliver.
Then you know nothing about basketball and it’s history.
At best. And I do believe Penn State and its "fanbase" are very experienced in dealing with the picture you paint when it comes to basketball. Glimmers of hope, which occur rarely, are quickly snuffed out.
I'm not sure about mediocrity. If they get a coach in that can pull in a team full of transfers like Pickett and Funk they can compete. The question is how many of those kids are available each year.
I knew about his prior stints at Butler and Purdue…..but did not know before Butler that he was Head Coach at Indiana University - South Bend in 2005-2007.
ND is a good job…..but South Bend itself has gone downhill over the years, he might be surprised when he gets back there.
As I said earlier, I think the only jobs he would have left for would have been Indiana, ND or Purdue.
ND is a good job…..but South Bend itself has gone downhill over the years, he might be surprised when he gets back there.
As I said earlier, I think the only jobs he would have left for would have been Indiana, ND or Purdue.
Yep. I bought into it this season and, deep down, I thought he would stay. I don't condemn him for leaving. He did what was best for himself and his family. I condemn those who, through the years, have made this an inhospitable place to develop a quality basketball program.
Whoever is the next hire ... and I, of course hope (but don't expect) it's a home run ... they NEED to mention that they don't view PSU as a stepping stone to better things, or a place to go because no one else wants them.
I won't respect them if they don't jab Micah Shrewsberry in both of his beady little eyes. Don't give a flip if some dinks think it's petty. Someone has to stand up for PSU basketball, and who better than the next coach? Even the "fans" won't do that.
I won't respect them if they don't jab Micah Shrewsberry in both of his beady little eyes. Don't give a flip if some dinks think it's petty. Someone has to stand up for PSU basketball, and who better than the next coach? Even the "fans" won't do that.
Good call on Langel. He's going to be up for a lot of the open jobs on the East Coast. I've heard him mentioned for Temple as well.
Understood Fair…it is a fair point (no pun intended).
Why is there will for wrestling, hockey, lacrosse, football, and other but not Men’s Basketball? No reason why they can’t compete at a high level…only need a few good players and good coach.
Just imagine if Lively II had gone to Penn State…and it could have happened…potential Final 4 Team.
Simply inexcusable. Hire a big name coach, commit the resources needed to win, and then execute.
Inside job Fair. I'm taking down my Christmas tree on this one.
Closet Domer…VOMIT!
FWIW, South Bend has been an armpit for quite awhile. I’m pretty sure it’s the same as he remembers it.
As did the assistant coaches from what I read.I'd say the same if that dickwad let the team know he was going to leave so they didn't have to find out through social media.
Typical Domer.
To be fair if you need to look back 4-5 decades to say a program was good.....they aren't anymore. ND and PSU basketball are 2 perennial big schools that under achieve and have for a long time in basketball. Is ND better than PSU in b-ball....slightly, but both aren't destination jobs currently for the sport and neither have been in a long time.
Well, I've lived half my life without a tournament win, I can do the rest that way too.
And **** the NCAA to death in the first place.
And **** the NCAA to death in the first place.
I think you took my post the wrong way. I agree, Shrew owes PSU nothing. Just like any employee owes their employer nothing.
Some folks have complained about the way Franklin has fielded questions about other jobs over the years. He’s still here. Then you get a guy who says the right things and appears to want to be here, and he f*cks you in the a$$.
What these guys say in public means nothing.
What these guys say in public means nothing.
Not that simple. Money spent on the basketball program is going down the rabbit hole. There's no return on it until PSU addresses what to do with the BJC and that won't happen until large crowds come out for the games. In the mean time the coach looks out over a half-filled arena and has toask himself from time to time "what am I doing here?"
Pat Kraft is sure earning his money.
Did Sandy have new black curtains for the upper deck of the BJC in her FACILITY. MASTER. PLAN.
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What is this basketball we speak of on BWI? The time between the bowl and spring practice?
I’m a former PSU athlete, graduate, booster, son of a booster and a football fan. I go to UNC basketball and football games. If I want real football, I go to Beaver Stadium. If I want real basketball, I go to the Dean Dome. Seems pretty clear to me.
I’m a former PSU athlete, graduate, booster, son of a booster and a football fan. I go to UNC basketball and football games. If I want real football, I go to Beaver Stadium. If I want real basketball, I go to the Dean Dome. Seems pretty clear to me.
The question that Pat Kraft should be asking himself is why does PSU have a basketball program? If the answer is so that it can collect the basketball portion of Big Ten revenue sharing then cut expenses to the bone and learn to ignore the nabobs. If the objective is to earn money over and above that, good luck.
You just explained the difference between a football school and hoops school is all . How many schools have both sports in the top 25 programs ?
It also doesn't take much to be a bball contender - get one star player and you can instantly be good (USC did this some years ago, Alabama more recently). Of course, a good coach, rabid fan base, top facilities and now, solid NIL opportunities will help, but ultimately it's about the players.
As it always is , and the key is the right coach and assistants to recruit the players .
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