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PSU12046

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She was in the presidents suite at Beaver Stadium for a game last fall. Seems to me she’s just fine with Penn State unlike the children around here.
That's awesome, good golly!!! Did everyone in the stadium know she was there for ONE game in 12 years?
 

LB99

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At this point, I believe Sue is "owed" something from the University. I have more time on my hands than you to honor her family's legacy.
As I asked in a previous conversation about this, how do you know this hasn’t been worked out privately with the family and they are satisfied with that? Do you hear the family requesting what you want? Jay is on the BOT for Pete’s sake. He has a perfect platform to try to get exactly what you seem to think he is “owed”. Yet, you don’t hear a peep about it from him or anyone else from the family. Are worried about the family or yourself?
 

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Why does everyone in the stadium need to know she’s there? This is such a strange take.
Because that would help (a little) with jilted alumni to begin to donate again,


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PSU12046

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As I asked in a previous conversation about this, how do you know this hasn’t been worked out privately with the family and they are satisfied with that? Do you hear the family requesting what you want? Jay is on the BOT for Pete’s sake. He has a perfect platform to try to get exactly what you seem to think he is “owed”. Yet, you don’t hear a peep about it from him or anyone else from the family. Are worried about the family or yourself?
You seem like the perfect person to go into a board meeting as a BOT member and ask for accolades, recognition, and participation trophies for yourself.
 

LB99

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You seem like the perfect person to go into a board meeting as a BOT member and ask for accolades, recognition, and participation trophies for yourself.
Good one. Your last few posts don’t make any sense.
 

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I knew about his prior stints at Butler and Purdue…..but did not know before Butler that he was Head Coach at Indiana University - South Bend in 2005-2007.

ND is a good job…..but South Bend itself has gone downhill over the years, he might be surprised when he gets back there.

As I said earlier, I think the only jobs he would have left for would have been Indiana, ND or Purdue.
South Bend is a Toilet!
 

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They are better than PSU which I said, but they aren't some national b-ball perennial power. ND isn't a b-ball destination job IMO, but PSU is a stepping stone school as well currently for HC's if they manage to somehow win at PSU which is tough to do. They also didn't make the tourney 2 of those years and have 4 losing seasons in the last 10 years...which was kind of my point. Better than PSU...sure, no arguement there, but not some historical power in b-ball unless you compare them to a poor program. Maybe he gets them back to where they were under Digger or in the late 70's/early 80's.
And Digger Phelps was a dick!!

A past friend of mine was a basketball manager for Digger Phelps.........He hated Digger more than any human on earth. Said he made Tim Kempton cry. Ha!
 
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Not that simple. Money spent on the basketball program is going down the rabbit hole. There's no return on it until PSU addresses what to do with the BJC and that won't happen until large crowds come out for the games. In the mean time the coach looks out over a half-filled arena and has toask himself from time to time "what am I doing here?"

Pat Kraft is sure earning his money.
PSU basketball earns a profit.
 

MacNit

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When I first saw this in this morning's Pist Gazette, expletives echoed in my head. Disappointed? Yes.
Immediately turn to my true source, this message board, to get some balance. Thanks, guys.
Couple of thoughts from an old guy....

Shrewsbury did a great job getting this team to the dance. 3 weeks ago, they were toast in my mind. Close to winning games, but not quite there. Give him the credit that these guys never quit and managed to win some of those close games - it got them into the 64 and it elevated Shrew's resume.

This team was primarily constructed from transfers (Shrewsberry's work?) and unfortunately the future doesn't look very bright (my opinion).

I found this team difficult to watch. Pickett dribble for 20 seconds and then find a stationary teammate or get a shot off. Maybe, just maybe that was the only way to be successful. Slow the game down and play defense while holding the ball. This is certainly not Gonzaga.

Anybody who thinks that this is a basketball destination job is kidding themselves.am looking g awesome

Anxious to see the short list of candidates to be Shrewsbury's successor. Wonder what Chris Mack is doing since he got canned at Louisville. Phil Martelli looks great as an assistant at Michigan.
Michigan looking awesome!
 

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PSU was a stepping stone for the NCAA coaching world? Ever?
That’s picking out just one part of the post. I meant it’s a school (or the type of school, I suppose) where you want to have success early so you can capitalize on it and get out to a bigger program. This guy was able to do where others in the past have not.
 

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PSU basketball earns a profit.
PSU Basketball (Men's) receives a lot of revenue from its B10 revenue sharing - just like every other B10 program. That comes out to around $10 million per year.
Penn State basketball generates essentially nothing on its own - generally between $1/2 million and $1 million in ticket revenues per year - and that figure barely twitches when PSU wins a few more games, or loses a few more games, or how much they spend (including things like paying coaches) in doing so.
You can find that information for each year here: 2021-22 NCAA Financial Report (PDF) - Penn State Athletics (gopsusports.com)

As long as PSU Basketball doesn't "spend away" the $10 million welfare check, they show a "profit"
Every dollar they do spend, for all intents and purposes - and this is, I believe, the gist of Grim's post - only burns another dollar of the welfare check, without generating a new dollar of revenue. This, we have seen, in the past. That as PSU spends more on basketball (including the last two years with the big $ increase going to Shrewsberry) it doesn't generate new revenues equal to the spend (not even close to it).

So, whatever the reasons may be to spend more - and there may be several reasonable non-financial arguments there (or maybe not) the data and the history strongly indicate that - as Grim indicated - "spending more" is a clear loser from a financial standpoint.
 

BobPSU92

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PSU Basketball (Men's) receives a lot of revenue from its B10 revenue sharing - just like every other B10 program. That comes out to around $10 million per year.
Penn State basketball generates essentially nothing on its own - generally between $1/2 million and $1 million in ticket revenues per year - and that figure barely twitches when PSU wins a few more games, or loses a few more games, or how much they spend (including things like paying coaches) in doing so.
You can find that information for each year here: 2021-22 NCAA Financial Report (PDF) - Penn State Athletics (gopsusports.com)

As long as PSU Basketball doesn't "spend away" the $10 million welfare check, they show a "profit"
Every dollar they do spend, for all intents and purposes - and this is, I believe, the gist of Grim's post - only burns another dollar of the welfare check, without generating a new dollar of revenue. This, we have seen, in the past. That as PSU spends more on basketball (including the last two years with the big $ increase going to Shrewsberry) it doesn't generate new revenues equal to the spend (not even close to it).

So, whatever the reasons may be to spend more - and there may be several reasonable non-financial arguments there (or maybe not) the data and the history strongly indicate that - as Grim indicated - "spending more" is a clear loser from a financial standpoint.

Time for a bake sale. Or we need the players to sell candy bars.
 

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Take it to a test board somewhere. Tired of the same crew beating the same drum day after day. If you take Joe at his word, he would never have wanted the statue, the field named after him, or anything else some of you are constantly clamoring for and you know it. Farq you.
But would Joe want the statue removed in the manner it was, and the fan base called sicko pedophile enablers who put winning football games above children?
 
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