WNBA

[atl-cock]

womens college basketball could not survive financially on its own. that's true of most collegiate sports, though.

How many collegiate sports in NCAA D-II, D-III, and the NAIA survive on their own? Varsity sports at the D-1 level, especially in football, men's basketball, and in a few rare cases, women's basketball and baseball, are now a completely different animal than the rest of the collegiate landscape.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not always about generating revenue at a school.

Again, to sum up, I agree that without the support of D-1 football at colleges, and the MNBA for the WNBA, most all other varsity sports would not survive/compete at the level they currently do; they would be at a D-III level.

Notwithstanding Title IX, many schools (such as our beloved USC) apparently find that promoting big time WBB does bring positive publicity to the school and is worth the cost. MNBA also reaps the benefit of goodwill by subsidizing the WNBA.

 

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[Americanbulldog]

How many collegiate sports in NCAA D-II, D-III, and the NAIA survive on their own? Varsity sports at the D-1 level, especially in football, men's basketball, and in a few rare cases, women's basketball and baseball, are now a completely different animal than the rest of the collegiate landscape.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not always about generating revenue at a school.

Again, to sum up, I agree that without the support of D-1 football at colleges, and the MNBA for the WNBA, most all other varsity sports would not survive/compete at the level they currently do; they would be at a D-III level.

Notwithstanding Title IX, many schools (such as our beloved USC) apparently find that promoting big time WBB does bring positive publicity to the school and is worth the cost. MNBA also reaps the benefit of goodwill by subsidizing the WNBA.

Disagree

 

[vacock]

How many collegiate sports in NCAA D-II, D-III, and the NAIA survive on their own? Varsity sports at the D-1 level, especially in football, men's basketball, and in a few rare cases, women's basketball and baseball, are now a completely different animal than the rest of the collegiate landscape.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not always about generating revenue at a school.

Again, to sum up, I agree that without the support of D-1 football at colleges, and the MNBA for the WNBA, most all other varsity sports would not survive/compete at the level they currently do; they would be at a D-III level.

Notwithstanding Title IX, many schools (such as our beloved USC) apparently find that promoting big time WBB does bring positive publicity to the school and is worth the cost. MNBA also reaps the benefit of goodwill by subsidizing the WNBA.

What is MNBA?

 

[Crutcher]

I have never watched a game, and I’m commenting on the subject. Who are you to worry about what someone watches or comments on? Geez

You must have some interest in the WNBA. Why else would you scroll thru and read four pages of responses to comment on something you have no interest in. You may be interested to see it fail, or you may be interested to tell people who uninterested you are, but you are surely interested in some form or fashion.

 

[Americanbulldog]

You must have some interest in the WNBA. Why else would you scroll thru and read four pages of responses to comment on something you have no interest in. You may be interested to see it fail, or you may be interested to tell people who uninterested you are, but you are surely interested in some form or fashion.

No, sorry not interested in the game. Just interested to see people argue over why someone may or may not be interested in a sport.

 

[Lurker123]

No, sorry not interested in the game. Just interested to see people argue over why someone may or may not be interested in a sport.

Funny, but true.

 

[Gamekem]

How many collegiate sports in NCAA D-II, D-III, and the NAIA survive on their own? Varsity sports at the D-1 level, especially in football, men's basketball, and in a few rare cases, women's basketball and baseball, are now a completely different animal than the rest of the collegiate landscape.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not always about generating revenue at a school.

Again, to sum up, I agree that without the support of D-1 football at colleges, and the MNBA for the WNBA, most all other varsity sports would not survive/compete at the level they currently do; they would be at a D-III level.

Notwithstanding Title IX, many schools (such as our beloved USC) apparently find that promoting big time WBB does bring positive publicity to the school and is worth the cost. MNBA also reaps the benefit of goodwill by subsidizing the WNBA.

Agreed, people like to pick on women's sports but the truth of the matter is that most sports are in the negative. In the world of college sports only Football and men's basketball are doing solid universally on the DI level. Every other sport including baseball would be on it's way out if revenue was deciding factor for worth. Even with football and basketball the only reason they are doing well is due to the top teams and the TV deals as result of those deals.

The NBA is actually a perfect example of this. A few years ago there was news about how about why half the NBA franchises were operating at a loss and they were only getting by due to the profit sharing of the league, mainly due to top revenue earning teams such as the GSW carrying for the whole league. Not dissimilar to how we benefit from the Alabamas' in football and Kentuckys' in men's basketball.

I still say the biggest difference maker between men's and women's sports is the TV deals. WBB actually does pretty well ratings wise for a collegiate sport but unfortunately it's grouped in with 20+ other sport so there's no chance of any type of profit sharing to go back to the schools or even reinvest in the product as whole when you're sharing a deal that consists of sports like bowling and diving with considerable less viewers. No it won't make the same as the men but it could be way bigger than what it currently is with the right investment and marketing.


Also to your final point, love it or hate it but USC has definitely benefited from WBB's success as you mentioned. There's a reason why Coach Beamer and Paris associate themselves with Dawn and the team a lot. I know that Dawn Staley has at least largely encouraged one recruit to commit on our football team and GG Jackson has credited A'ja Wilson success here as a reason for his consideration to stay home.

 

[Gamekem]

No, sorry not interested in the game. Just interested to see people argue over why someone may or may not be interested in a sport.

That comes across as very sad.

 

[Gamekem]

The WNBA issues are partially the TV deals but also poor management by the organization itself. As someone who actually watches the games I can tell you they don't make it easy available to watch and so I can only imagine how discouraging it can be for new viewers. Games can be watched on ESPN, ABC, CBS Sports, Bally Sports, Prime Video, Facebook, NBA TV, occasionally Twitter, and their own proprietary paid app call League Pass for $25.

While it's great to have these options, it's also very hard to keep up with what game is played on which platform because it's only available one of these platforms at a time. The app League Pass is poorly developed and buggy but most games can be found there but if it's not on there you must figure out which of the other countless channels/platforms it's on.

Then to top it off they often put many of the games on at the same time. So if there were 4 games are being played today, don't be surprised if 2 or 3 them is having the same start time. Also some of the start times have been abysmal. There has been a handful of games that have started at 11 am or 12pm on a weekday.

Some of the decision making from those who run the league is baffling and I'm not evenly entirely convinced myself as a fan that they aren't actually purposely trying to sabatoge it. Despite popular belief there is actually a lot of talent and personalities in the league but you wouldn't know it because the league continues to promote the same players that either went to a certain school or has a certain complexion (or often both) regardless if they lack the personality to attract an audience.

 

[Lurker123]

That comes across as very sad.

Or just the usual for a message board.

 

[atl-cock]

What is MNBA?

WNBA = Women's National Basketball Association.
MNBA = Men's National Basketball Association.

 

[atl-cock]

The WNBA issues are partially the TV deals but also poor management by the organization itself. As someone who actually watches the games I can tell you they don't make it easy available to watch and so I can only imagine how discouraging it can be for new viewers. Games can be watched on ESPN, ABC, CBS Sports, Bally Sports, Prime Video, Facebook, NBA TV, occasionally Twitter, and their own proprietary paid app call League Pass for $25.

While it's great to have these options, it's also very hard to keep up with what game is played on which platform because it's only available one of these platforms at a time. The app League Pass is poorly developed and buggy but most games can be found there but if it's not on there you must figure out which of the other countless channels/platforms it's on.

Then to top it off they often put many of the games on at the same time. So if there were 4 games are being played today, don't be surprised if 2 or 3 them is having the same start time. Also some of the start times have been abysmal. There has been a handful of games that have started at 11 am or 12pm on a weekday.

Some of the decision making from those who run the league is baffling and I'm not evenly entirely convinced myself as a fan that they aren't actually purposely trying to sabatoge it. Despite popular belief there is actually a lot of talent and personalities in the league but you wouldn't know it because the league continues to promote the same players that either went to a certain school or has a certain complexion (or often both) regardless if they lack the personality to attract an audience.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Americanbulldog]

The WNBA issues are partially the TV deals but also poor management by the organization itself. As someone who actually watches the games I can tell you they don't make it easy available to watch and so I can only imagine how discouraging it can be for new viewers. Games can be watched on ESPN, ABC, CBS Sports, Bally Sports, Prime Video, Facebook, NBA TV, occasionally Twitter, and their own proprietary paid app call League Pass for $25.

While it's great to have these options, it's also very hard to keep up with what game is played on which platform because it's only available one of these platforms at a time. The app League Pass is poorly developed and buggy but most games can be found there but if it's not on there you must figure out which of the other countless channels/platforms it's on.

Then to top it off they often put many of the games on at the same time. So if there were 4 games are being played today, don't be surprised if 2 or 3 them is having the same start time. Also some of the start times have been abysmal. There has been a handful of games that have started at 11 am or 12pm on a weekday.

Some of the decision making from those who run the league is baffling and I'm not evenly entirely convinced myself as a fan that they aren't actually purposely trying to sabatoge it. Despite popular belief there is actually a lot of talent and personalities in the league but you wouldn't know it because the league continues to promote the same players that either went to a certain school or has a certain complexion (or often both) regardless if they lack the personality to attract an audience.

Dude……..

 

[18IsTheMan]

 

[18IsTheMan]

 

[18IsTheMan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/28/brittney-griner-brianna-turner-call-wnba-stop-playing-national-anthem-this-season/

I bet she would give anything and everything right now to hear the national anthem. She can rot over there.