2023 Phillies Thread

Tom McAndrew

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That’s a bummer. I kind of expected it, but still.

Definitely a bummer. But while I was hoping for the best, and it appeared that he was making progress before the recent reoccurrence, since the shutdown in spring training I've kind of been expecting this would be the end result.

Here's wishing him the best in his evaluation, and the surgery and rehab.
 

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Definitely a bummer. But while I was hoping for the best, and it appeared that he was making progress before the recent reoccurrence, since the shutdown in spring training I've kind of been expecting this would be the end result.

Here's wishing him the best in his evaluation, and the surgery and rehab.
Agreed, Tom. Was hoping they just decided to do it back then and get the ball rolling but yes, always felt like it would go this way.
 

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The loss tonight, 1-0, was on this play and it wasn’t even scored an error, so Wheeler gets the loss. Pathetic effort.

 
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Phillies offense really stinks. Same lame crap every year. Pitching overperforms and hitting underperforms.

Crap defense wouldn't matter if the offense were not totally inept.
 
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Phillies offense really stinks. Same lame crap every year. Pitching overperforms and hitting underperforms.

Crap defense wouldn't matter if the offense were not totally inept.
A billion dollar 💵 offense should not be shut out as often as this one is !
 
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The loss tonight, 1-0, was on this play and it wasn’t even scored an error, so Wheeler gets the loss. Pathetic effort.

Wheeler pitched well enough to win. The Phil's D was excellent, except for the play that resulted in the Guardian's run. Alas, the Phil's O was impotent, though the Guardian's starter really was effective with his breaking balls. (The home plate ump absolutely blew a call late in the game, where he ruled that Schwarber had fouled off a ball (with 2 strikes) that the catcher caught. Schwarber acted like he hadn't touched the ball (he checked on the swing), and replay clearly showed that the ball was never close to the bat.) Frustrating loss.

 
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Wheeler pitched well enough to win. The Phil's D was excellent, except for the play that resulted in the Guardian's run. Alas, the Phil's O was impotent, though the Guardian's starter really was effective with his breaking balls. (The home plate ump absolutely blew a call late in the game, where he ruled that Schwarber had fouled off a ball (with 2 strikes) that the catcher caught. Schwarber acted like he hadn't touched the ball (he checked on the swing), and replay clearly showed that the ball was never close to the bat. Frustrating loss.


The ump hosed Schwarber on the first two pitches so he continued the screw job. Why wouldn’t Thomson challenge that call, or is that one you can’t challenge? That ump needs to be sent to Little League. He sucked.
 

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The ump hosed Schwarber on the first two pitches so he continued the screw job. Why wouldn’t Thomson challenge that call, or is that one you can’t challenge? That ump needs to be sent to Little League. He sucked.

Check swing calls can't be challenged, unfortunately. Or fouls.

The ump did have a wide zone. A few Phils found themselves down in the count and having to protect due to strike calls that appeared to be inaccurate.
 

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good grief. Kimbrel has not blown a save all season. And with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, Fry jumps all over a fastball and hits it out to tie the game, 4-4. smh

 

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The ump hosed Schwarber on the first two pitches so he continued the screw job. Why wouldn’t Thomson challenge that call, or is that one you can’t challenge? That ump needs to be sent to Little League. He sucked.
So the lousy umpiring explains why the Phillies didn’t score with the other 26 outs?
 

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good grief. Kimbrel has not blown a save all season. And with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, Fry jumps all over a fastball and hits it out to tie the game, 4-4. smh


No one is perfect. Phils should be ecstatic about the way Kimbrel has pitched this year.
 

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No one is perfect. Phils should be ecstatic about the way Kimbrel has pitched this year.

Pretty much the case. My reaction was based on the frustration of the recent losing streak, and then Kimbrel serving up a fat fastball with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, that got blasted out of the park. Fortunately, the Fightins' bats came alive in the top of the 10th, so Kimbrel's lack of perfection was just a temporary frustration. ;)
 
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This team is frustrating. They're masters of giving up solo homers. Lately the offense sucks more often than not. And Turner getting tossed may improve their chances of winning the game seeing how his glove must be broken tonight. Yeah, not challenging the drop in center field was a head scratcher too.
 

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Thomson must go. He is in over his head. His lineups are whack and why wasn’t Schwarber replaced in left in late innings. This team is a mess right now just giving games away.
 

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Anyone can complain but when you consider where the payroll is spent, you have Turner, JT, Rhys being under performers while Bryce and Schwarber are having funky years. That’s $100m +. Face it, if those guys finish like they have posted through 100 games, it doesnt matter what Topper does or doesn’t do.
 
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Thomson “claims” they didn’t get a replay within the ten second time frame, yet Schwarber, who was on deck, yells into the dugout that it was dropped. 🤬
I agree, but the bigger issue is they didn't have a challenge left which means what difference does it make if they had the angle or not because you have to ask and be granted it to get it reviewed and what is the harm in just asking with how close that play was?
 

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Anyone can complain but when you consider where the payroll is spent, you have Turner, JT, Rhys being under performers while Bryce and Schwarber are having funky years. That’s $100m +. Face it, if those guys finish like they have posted through 100 games, it doesnt matter what Topper does or doesn’t do.
Was having this exact argument with a friend last night. I truly don't understand the lineup but just have toa assume it's analytics based and more or less force fed to him with little wiggle room. Maybe not but that seems likely. And, while Thomson does make some odd decisions at times, to your point, he can't make those guys hits with runners on, not strike out on horrible pitches, and. boot routine plays in the field.
 

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I agree, but the bigger issue is they didn't have a challenge left which means what difference does it make if they had the angle or not because you have to ask and be granted it to get it reviewed and what is the harm in just asking with how close that play was?
They weren’t out of challenges.
 

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