2023 Phillies Thread

Colt2169

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Schwarbs is a riddle. He’s a .190 lead off hitter. But he has 40 HRs and 80+ RBIs. But he only has about as many other hits as HRs. But he draws a lot of walks. But he has a -0.7 WAR on the season. Crazy set of contradictions.
he needs to bat 5th
end of story

Stott
Turner
Harper

all the time every time

then do right left the rest of the way but you can move guys around when needed … but DON’T mess with the first three - let them gel and you’ll see magic in playoffs
 

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he needs to bat 5th
end of story

Stott
Turner
Harper

all the time every time

then do right left the rest of the way but you can move guys around when needed … but DON’T mess with the first three - let them gel and you’ll see magic in playoffs
The only time he is in the lead off position, really, is in the first inning. Having him there when the bottom of the lineup gets on base is way more dangerous IMO, and his home run & walk stats support that since he was returned to the lead off spot in the lineup.
 

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The only time he is in the lead off position, really, is in the first inning. Having him there when the bottom of the lineup gets on base is way more dangerous IMO, and his home run & walk stats support that since he was returned to the lead off spot in the lineup.

plus he had a 1st pitch Schwarbomb to straight-away center field to lead off the bottom of the 1st today.




 
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The only time he is in the lead off position, really, is in the first inning. Having him there when the bottom of the lineup gets on base is way more dangerous IMO, and his home run & walk stats support that since he was returned to the lead off spot in the lineup.
Schwarbs with another lead off dinger today! That’s a nice way to start a game. All kinds of Phillies base runners in the first. I hope that bodes well.
 
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Tom, do they win the wildcard if they play 500 ball in September?

500??? I don't think that will get it done. But it's impossible to give a simple answer to your question, as the final wild card standings are as much dependent upon what other teams do as they are on what the Fightins do.

Looking at games through Saturday (8/26), the Phils lead the WC race, with a 72-58 record. The Cubs are on their heels, with a 69-61 record. And the Diamondbacks are just behind them, with a 68-62 record.

All of the aforementioned teams are hot right now. The Fightins thru Saturday night are 7-3 in their last 10. The Cubs are also 7-3 in their last 10, while the Diamondbacks are 8-2 in their last 10.

Again, through Saturday's games, the Cincinnati Reds are just outside making the WC. They have a 68-63 record, so they're only 0.5 games behind the Diamondbacks. The San Fran Giants are 66-63, and 1.5 games behind the Diamondbacks. And the Fish are 66-65, and 2.5 games behind the Diamondbacks. Interestingly, the Reds, the Giants, and the Fish have not done as well as the Fightins, the Cubs, or the Diamondbacks of late. The Reds are 6-4 in their last 10, the Giants are 3-7 in their last 10, and the Fish are 3-7 in their last 10.
 
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So hard math, looking at the past 2 years wild card winners reaching low 90s, the race to 92 wins is
Philly .625% win percentage
Cubs .718%. to win with 93 .75%
Reds and D backs .75% 93 .78%
Giants .8125% 93 .844%

Im good with 6 out of 10.
 
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The only time he is in the lead off position, really, is in the first inning. Having him there when the bottom of the lineup gets on base is way more dangerous IMO, and his home run & walk stats support that since he was returned to the lead off spot in the lineup.
This is debated on 94 all the time. If you can forget BA, which is becoming an archaic metric, he’s having a fantastic year
(walks home runs rbis)
 
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He was still negative WAR as of today. That’s opposed to a 2.2 WAR last season. Something doesn’t add up.
Defensive abilities also impact WAR and there are plenty of metrics that suggest he’s the worst defensive OF’er in baseball.

For those continuing to complain about Schwarber hitting leadoff, it’s very simple. All you have to do is figure out a way to be named manager. Absent that, I’m not sure Thomson has ANY thoughts of changing horses at this time. Being serious, there is some strong sentiment that immediately taking the lead in the first inning is extremely desirable and Schwarber can provide that on one swing. You can argue that having Stott leadoff might produce similar results but they don’t want to disrupt his flow asking him to hit leadoff. If Rhys was active, that might have been a consideration.
 
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This is debated on 94 all the time. If you can forget BA, which is becoming an archaic metric, he’s having a fantastic year
(walks home runs rbis)
His OPS is .791 which is due to his walks (second in MLB) and total bases. In the past, the lead off man was expected to score a lot of tuns. Well, Schwarber leads the team in runs scored. He's not the stereotypical lead off hitter but then again the lead off man is only guaranteed to lead off once per game anyway.

You're right. Ignore the batting average. The Phils offense wouldn't be the same without Schwarber.
 
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Defensive abilities also impact WAR and there are plenty of metrics that suggest he’s the worst defensive OF’er in baseball.

For those continuing to complain about Schwarber hitting leadoff, it’s very simple. All you have to do is figure out a way to be named manager. Absent that, I’m not sure Thomson has ANY thoughts of changing horses at this time. Being serious, there is some strong sentiment that immediately taking the lead in the first inning is extremely desirable and Schwarber can provide that on one swing. You can argue that having Stott leadoff might produce similar results but they don’t want to disrupt his flow asking him to hit leadoff. If Rhys was active, that might have been a consideration.
We also have to consider he wants to lead off, the clubhouse is super tight, changing now could cause trouble with the team.
 

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Defensive abilities also impact WAR and there are plenty of metrics that suggest he’s the worst defensive OF’er in baseball.

For those continuing to complain about Schwarber hitting leadoff, it’s very simple. All you have to do is figure out a way to be named manager. Absent that, I’m not sure Thomson has ANY thoughts of changing horses at this time. Being serious, there is some strong sentiment that immediately taking the lead in the first inning is extremely desirable and Schwarber can provide that on one swing. You can argue that having Stott leadoff might produce similar results but they don’t want to disrupt his flow asking him to hit leadoff. If Rhys was active, that might have been a consideration.
Ironically, he played in the field A LOT more last season when Harper's injury kept him at DH. This season, Schwarbs seems to DH most of the time so his fielding is SO poor, it's mind boggling.

Baseball Reference has him #572 in MLB in terms of player value. Zoinks.
 
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