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winloseortie

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@winloseortie who ya got? Vandy or Columbia?

This would be an embarrassing loss for the SEC, even if Vandy is the conference nerd.
Having actually watched several Columbia games. This is not a Vandy no-brainer. Hsu could be the best player on the court.

Columbia losses happen when they get beat on the boards. A bad UGA team killed them on the glass and the scoreboard. They played Duke and UF to last possession games because they rebounded so well.

Vandy wins late because of size and boards. BUT IF Columbia can stay within -4 on the boards they pull it out with experience and Hsu.
Vandy by 5.
 

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I think Columbia had the best reaction to being selected. This is their first NCAA tournament.


Their coach did call out the SEC though when she was pleading for her team to get in so I'm sure Vandy will have an extra chip on their shoulder.
 

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I'm definitely pulling for the Lions! I always go with an Ivy league team unless it is against SC or West Point. Its not easy assembling competitive teams at the D1 level for schools in that league. Plus, I like their style of play, similar to Princeton's and I have no allegiance to other schools just because they are in the SEC. On the contrary, it's a good reason for me to pull against those teams. Gotta keep them down and all. There can be only one...:)
 
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DC, it would not be embarrassing for VD to lose to Columbia. There is still a place for teams like them and Princeton to be good, and VD isn‘t anything special, not yet anyway.
I have no problem with Columbia and/or Princeton being good, but an Ivy League team can't beat an SEC team in the tournament. @KingWard will be on here pontificating about what a tragedy that is for the conference.
 

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I have no problem with Columbia and/or Princeton being good, but an Ivy League team can't beat an SEC team in the tournament. @KingWard will be on here pontificating about what a tragedy that is for the conference.
In football and probably baseball, yes; hoops is different.
 

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If you combine UK and Clemson’s rosters, then add both recruiting classes????
You would still have no head coach and 5 open scholarship slots. 9 players left between the 2 of them?🤣🤣🤣
Mitchell Northam said an ACC coach not named Jeff Walz is interested in the UK job. I'm pretty sure he is referring to Kenny Brooks. With Amore and Kitley leaving, now is the time for him to get his big payday. He's not likely to see the same level of success in the near future, maybe ever.
 

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So my question now is, will anyone from the media try and ask Kim to either explain her answer or defend it. Maybe also try and hold her accountable for much of what she says. It seems that many people FINALLY, are tired of her act and are calling her out for it. Will they do so to her face at a media event or will it never come up again and she will never be help accountable for anything. If not she will continue to say things that are not acceptable and her teams will continue to be undisciplined. YES Cardossa was undisciplined in her actions but that is not like her.

I also heard some guy named "T" on the Finnebaum show yesterday from Texas try and say that he watched the game and the Carolina girls were taunting the LSU players all game and that LSU just got tired of it and defended themselves. I was unable to watch the whole game due to work but from knowing our team, they dont taunt anyone unless someone is being a jerk first. North Carolina and Duke acted that way earlier this year.
As much as I dont like Tennessee, I didnt see them doing anything like that or us to them the night before and that was a much more tense game. I hate Dawn is painted so poorly sometimes, EVEN by some ignorant Carolina fans, because she does work very hard to do everything with class and she never tries to incite fights like Kim just did.
T must be a CNN reporter…. South Carolina did some taunting, but it all started with LSU at the first of the game and all other games. Go ask yourself, which team is known for taunting and which team is not? That’s all you need to know. Angel Reese and Crew are in your face talking, swinging elbows and such from the tip. go watch their games against other teams. These skirmishes happen all the time. Now compare that to the times you can count on three fingers in the last 10 years for us.

But feel free to believe what you want. The too small gestures that aReese started last year, now we reciprocate vs hair pulling and attempting elbows intentionally to the face. You can decide.
 

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I'm happy for Presbyterian because they're in state and it's their first tournament win. But, I like playing different teams and styles and I would have loved to see that Sacred Heart full court press against us 😎
 
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Mitchell Northam said an ACC coach not named Jeff Walz is interested in the UK job. I'm pretty sure he is referring to Kenny Brooks. With Amore and Kitley leaving, now is the time for him to get his big payday. He's not likely to see the same level of success in the near future, maybe ever.
That seems like a step down. Kentucky hasn't shown much interest in truly investing in women's basketball and I believe the SEC is the much tougher conference as well, especially with Texas joining. Also Kenny Brooks took VT to new heights and probably bought himself at least 3-4 years of medicore teams worth of goodwill. I don't understand why he would risk it all for a Kentucky job that seems to be all around worse in basically every aspect.
 

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That seems like a step down. Kentucky hasn't shown much interest in truly investing in women's basketball and I believe the SEC is the much tougher conference as well, especially with Texas joining. Also Kenny Brooks took VT to new heights and probably bought himself at least 3-4 years of medicore teams worth of goodwill. I don't understand why he would risk it all for a Kentucky job that seems to be all around worse in basically every aspect.
Money talks but it will be interesting to see if he is indeed the coach the reporter is referring to. It does seem that whoever the coach is, that they are still playing as they said it may be as early as monday when they announce. I guess it will depend on win that team loses out.

On another note if Brooks is indeed pursuing Imari Berry for Va Tech (read this on a couple of message boards) then I would tend to believe he is not UK's guy.

Tenn's beat writer has said they are not in her final two.
 

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That seems like a step down. Kentucky hasn't shown much interest in truly investing in women's basketball and I believe the SEC is the much tougher conference as well, especially with Texas joining. Also Kenny Brooks took VT to new heights and probably bought himself at least 3-4 years of medicore teams worth of goodwill. I don't understand why he would risk it all for a Kentucky job that seems to be all around worse in basically every aspect.
He's 55, so I could see him taking it if the price is right. If he's mediorce for 3 years at Tech, he'd be 58. This maybe his last chance to be a "hot" candidate. Of course, he might be mainly interviewing to get a raise from VT. We'll see.
 

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Money talks but it will be interesting to see if he is indeed the coach the reporter is referring to. It does seem that whoever the coach is, that they are still playing as they said it may be as early as monday when they announce. I guess it will depend on win that team loses out.

On another note if Brooks is indeed pursuing Imari Berry for Va Tech (read this on a couple of message boards) then I would tend to believe he is not UK's guy.

Tenn's beat writer has said they are not in her final two.
 
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Money talks but it will be interesting to see if he is indeed the coach the reporter is referring to. It does seem that whoever the coach is, that they are still playing as they said it may be as early as monday when they announce. I guess it will depend on win that team loses out.

On another note if Brooks is indeed pursuing Imari Berry for Va Tech (read this on a couple of message boards) then I would tend to believe he is not UK's guy.

Tenn's beat writer has said they are not in her final two.
I guess I just don't see Kentucky putting the money that's worth it in Women's basketball. Up until this point they've made it clear to do the bare minimum for women's basketball and men's basketball gets everything. But maybe they're following the trend of WBB popularity.
 

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Brooks reminds me of Dave Odom. He had a great run with the best player in school history, but he's unlikely to continue that level of success. A pay raise and a fresh start sounds like a good option. He's not getting any younger.
 
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I guess I just don't see Kentucky putting the money that's worth it in Women's basketball. Up until this point they've made it clear to do the bare minimum for women's basketball and men's basketball gets everything. But maybe they're following the trend of WBB popularity.
It’s not very often, if ever, that you are just dead wrong but here is a case in point. At present Adia Barnes is #10 in salary 1.2M excluding private schools such as Stanford etc. Matthew Mitchell before he retired 3 years ago was making 1.25M.

They paid Elzy on the cheap because it was a late emergency hire and she was basically the best available 3 weeks before the season started.

I think they are just itching to get back in the game. It would probably take over 2M to get Walz. Brooks makes 900K so he is definitely in their price range, although I think they can do better
 
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Liatu King out of Pitt has entered the portal 6’0” F 18 & 10. First team all ACC and most improved player. Stuck on a dreadful team. Will have tons of offers
 
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Lots of pundits have come out since last Sunday and said that SC has the easiest path to the FF based on their bracket; but Portland 3 is pretty dang light. with Kitley now officially out (sad for her), Southern Cal should have a cake-walk to the elite 8. and then once there, most likely matched-up against Ohio St. (who they already beat) or possibly a very thin UConn squad, PB notwithstanding. they well may cruise to the FF.
 

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Lots of pundits have come out since last Sunday and said that SC has the easiest path to the FF based on their bracket; but Portland 3 is pretty dang light. with Kitley now officially out (sad for her), Southern Cal should have a cake-walk to the elite 8. and then once there, most likely matched-up against Ohio St. (who they already beat) or possibly a very thin UConn squad, PB notwithstanding. they well may cruise to the FF.
I think they do but I wouldn't want to switch for that side of the bracket. Who ever comes out of that regional will still have to go thru the winner of Albany 2 to get to the finals. I like where we sit. Not the easiest but in the long run, probably the most favorable to win it all.
 

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A few thoughts before the tournament begins:

NEGATIVE: We don't have the best player in the country on the team

The two times we won it all, we had the NPOY. It doesn't matter the level of basketball, usually the team with the best player wins. And it certainly helps to have the best player in the country.

POSITIVE: We don't have the best player in the country on the team

At the same time, we've learned in the tournament that the officials can take away the best player in the country (see the Stanford and Iowa games), especially if she is a post player. Cardoso is our best player; however, we are not as reliant on her as we were on Boston. We've played well when she hasn't played. We overcame foul trouble--and questionable officiating--against Utah. Perhaps most impressive was the last game: she went out with her 3 foul early in the 3rd quarter and we still found a way to defeat a very physical LSU team.

POSITIVE: We have the most depth in the country

We are legitimately 9 deep. There is an enormous gap between us and everyone else. I don't know which team is #2 depth-wise.

NEGATIVE: We don't always play the right players

At the same time, having a lot of options can be daunting. Geno and Mulkey don't lose sleep deciding which players to play. It's clear which are their best lineups. This is true for most of the serious contenders. Dawn said on the Dan Patrick Show the only way we lose is if we beat ourselves. With so many options on the team, we shouldn't beat ourselves. If a player is beating us, then get someone else on the court.

Overall, this is about as confident as I've been about a team going into a tournament. If LSU somehow makes it all the way through their murderous bracket and we face them in the final, then I think some concern may be justified. But until that happens, we should have the advantage against any opponent. We just need to get it done.
 
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A few thoughts before the tournament begins:

NEGATIVE: We don't have the best player in the country on the team

The two times we won it all, we had the NPOY. It doesn't matter the level of basketball, usually the team with the best player wins. And it certainly helps to have the best player in the country.

POSITIVE: We don't have the best player in the country on the team

At the same time, we've learned in the tournament that the officials can take away the best player in the country (see the Stanford and Iowa games), especially if she is a post player. Cardoso is our best player; however, we are not as reliant on her as we were on Boston. We've played well when she hasn't played. We overcame foul trouble--and questionable officiating--against Utah. Perhaps most impressive was the last game: she went out with her 3 foul early in the 3rd quarter and we still found a way to defeat a very physical LSU team.

POSITIVE: We have the most depth in the country

We are legitimately 9 deep. There is an enormous gap between us and everyone else. I don't know which team is #2 depth-wise.

NEGATIVE: We don't always play the right players

At the same time, having a lot of options can be daunting. Geno and Mulkey don't lose sleep deciding which players to play. It's clear which are their best lineups. This is true for most of the serious contenders. Dawn said on the Dan Patrick Show the only way we lose is if we beat ourselves. With so many options on the team, we shouldn't beat ourselves. If a player is beating us, then get someone else on the court.

Overall, this is about as confident as I've been about a team going into a tournament. If LSU somehow makes it all the way through their murderous bracket and we face them in the final, then I think some concern may be justified. But until that happens, we should have the advantage against any opponent. We just need to get it done.
I'm would be just as concerned, maybe more, if we have to face tennessee again. We haven't even come close to covering the spread in the times we faced them. The SEC tournament started out the way I thought we should be able to play them but we were LUCKY to get out with a miracle shot. I do not want to tempt fate again. Something about that matchup that scares me.
 

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I'm would be just as concerned, maybe more, if we have to face tennessee again. We haven't even come close to covering the spread in the times we faced them. The SEC tournament started out the way I thought we should be able to play them but we were LUCKY to get out with a miracle shot. I do not want to tempt fate again. Something about that matchup that scares me.
Definitely. I was assuming that won't make it to the Final Four. If they are playing well enough to win 4 games, then they would be concerning.
 
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