Finebaum is an idiot, how exactly will Franklin "pay for it"?
Are you done with Franklin?
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Finebaum is an idiot, how exactly will Franklin "pay for it"?
Nobody asked him a hard question like this after the game unfortunatelyMedia member: James, what can you do to get production out of the wide receivers? Is it coaching, recruiting? What needs to change?
Franklin: I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding. OBVIOUSLY.
Didn’t vote - don’t care anymore. Will show up to watch but that’s the end of it.
‘Etetnal sunshine of the spotless mind’ and all…
Exactly. He downplays fact that SEC will not have the NC for 2nd year in a row and states SEC will be back on top. Maybe, but he is so impartial it is difficult to take in seriously.
Not sure how Franklin is going to “pay” either.
The Patriots had Tom Brady, and there was only one of him.
Also, the Patriots didn't win *every* year. They had a dynasty, sure, but they also lost twice in the Super Bowl, and even missed the playoffs once when they went 11-5.
But more to the point: I referred to losing to teams with superior talent. It was the first thing I mentioned. The issue is that on Thursday, we were the better team. We had more talent. But as Midnighter said: we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
If we had gone in to the NCG, and lost to Ohio State, I'd say, "Hey, it's tough to beat OSU. They're straight up investing more money in winning than we are, and that matters."
But that's not what happened. Penn State may have been a slight underdog in this game, but it's not because they had less talent on the field, and I think everyone knows that.
I was at that game, and it was the first time I remember leaving a game and not feeling bummed out about having lost.
It was such a great game. Both teams at one point led by 14 and let the other team back into it. Both teams had their top defensive player ejected. It was like a Greek drama!
Don't forget that USC had a very good team that year, too.
The coach with a 59-59 record and 0-3 in bowl games? That would certainly be an upgrade over your current coach with a 101-42 record, 8-7 in bowl games, B10 Championship and CFP final 4 appearance?
What about that other Penn State wunderkind Matt Rhule? He's at least above .500 at 59-56 and 2-2 in bowls, with that awesome win in last years Pinstripe Bowl over that Boston College juggernaut!
Can I help you with a sarcasm detector?The coach with a 59-59 record and 0-3 in bowl games? That would certainly be an upgrade over your current coach with a 101-42 record, 8-7 in bowl games, B10 Championship and CFP final 4 appearance?
If people say want they want to hear others run with it. PF is a wrestling heel and people still fall for his act....he spins them up and if he likes what he says they use it as a see I told you so.
He won that Pinstripe Bowl over Bill O'Brien, who coached PSU to an undefeated (and completely defeated) "bowl record", a 15-9 W-L record, and coach of the year honors. Maybe Penn State should bring him back?The coach with a 59-59 record and 0-3 in bowl games? That would certainly be an upgrade over your current coach with a 101-42 record, 8-7 in bowl games, B10 Championship and CFP final 4 appearance?
***use sarcasm detector***
Can't think of a coach (lm sure there are several) who has gotten more with "less" than BOB. He was a journeyman asst. College coach and then he rubbed up against Brady. Bingo! He has certainly made the most of that stroke of fate.
He's just bitter because he couldn't get a helmet over those ears.
I understand and it is a good point.
Would be easier to stomach if we had one or two of all similar type games that we can point to as a win.
Guess we will keep rolling GrantH/MarcusA video for another decade or so?
To each his own…to me the objective is to win…seems the program and some of fan base are happy with “play em close.”
But not all - Legacy Lettermen are not happy. And I expect there will be a good percentage of boo birds out again at Blue - White game (as there were for SMU game).
Penn State has a pretty educated fan base (not withstanding some fanboys who think current regime can do no wrong).
Sorry, no team that makes the CF playoff is bad. To think otherwise shows no football acumen.
You forget 2016? Penn State was a 21-point underdog to #2 Ohio State. 2014 when Big 10 officials jobbed us against Ohio State at home?
Looks like final tally is 111-19. Like a High School JV Girls Basketball game.
So, for the 19 who are "done with Franklin" what are your action items to demonstrate your "done ness"? The obvious is to simply step away from Penn State football and everything associated with it. Any other action items that can demonstrate your "done ness"?
Whining and complaining, while fun, isn't really an action item.
You can throw down the gauntlet about "expecting to win", but how do you can make that happen? Tell me your action items.
So, for the 19 who are "done with Franklin" what are your action items to demonstrate your "done ness"? The obvious is to simply step away from Penn State football and everything associated with it. Any other action items that can demonstrate your "done ness"?
Whining and complaining, while fun, isn't really an action item.
You can throw down the gauntlet about "expecting to win", but how do you can make that happen? Tell me your action items.
We won’t let the tyranny of the majority stop us
You are assuming there will be enough free beverages available. I have been to a Wegmans - very little is free.
It's a message board. The entire purpose of it is whining and complaining. I get plenty of action items at work, I won't accept them here.
I will continue to complain but offer no solutions as I see fit.
PS...I didn't vote
I understand this is a message board. I also understand that non stop complaining is a pointless excercise and frankly a fool's paradise. I would imagine that people feel the same way about Franklin off the message board as well.It's a message board. The entire purpose of it is whining and complaining. I get plenty of action items at work, I won't accept them here.
I will continue to complain but offer no solutions as I see fit.
PS...I didn't vote
If you feel strongly about something, you have to back up your position with action. I would like to know what people will do (other than whine and complain) to back up their words (other than more words).
Life requires action items - work is part of life, as is being a college football fan.
Bro, you’re being silly. Am I on the coach search committee? (no)I understand this is a message board. I also understand that non stop complaining is a pointless excercise and frankly a fool's paradise. I would imagine that people feel the same way about Franklin off the message board as well.
If you feel strongly about something, you have to back up your position with action. I would like to know what people will do (other than whine and complain) to back up their words (other than more words).
Life requires action items - work is part of life, as is being a college football fan.
the action item is to hire a coach who splits or goes 55% v big ten big boys. Better than 5-19, which is like 42%
for What it’s worth the biggest state football fan I know personally (son 1) loves Franklin and is good with his record.
Ok - so now how do YOU complete the action item? YOU don't hire or fire the coach.
I know what PSU's actions items are (or can be). My question (for the third time) is what is YOUR action item? 19 people "are done" with Franklin - how are those 19 people going to demonstrate their "done ness". It's really not a complicated question. Bro.
No one is being silly - it's a reasonable question to ask people who have indicated they have reached a terminus with the head coach.
I need an example if hiring a new coach isn’t an action item. For the record, I voted FOR Franklin to stay. The reason is twofold, I LOVE adding the western teams to the big ten, our trips will be (and were) awesome. The second reason is the playoff system, the only time we won’t make it is when we have 3 guaranteed big boy losses, next year we only have 2.
Im good with a trip out west and 1 GOOD playoff showing, win or lose, every year.
And secondly, I think Coach is a hellaciously likable bro and he reps my fam 100%. Will I see you in Seattle ‘26?
Im good with a trip out west and 1 GOOD playoff showing, win or lose, every year.
And secondly, I think Coach is a hellaciously likable bro and he reps my fam 100%. Will I see you in Seattle ‘26?
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Who are you going to root for? Only two teams wert further than psu. I guess you could pick Georgia sine Kirby won. Only about four or five coaches with better resumes than franklin.
Rhule, schiano, golden and O'Brien combined have zero top 5 wins. Zero.
How many top 5 wins do you think joe had his first 10 years?
Ps. The over under is set at .5.
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Marshall's obsessive and compulsive cattiness extends beyond anyone who criticizes coaches and extends to BOB. Who knew?
I cancelled my subscription to the Lion’s Den. Does that count? (I didn’t vote).
Booing seems to get under Franklin’s skin as he adds to his record of futility against teams with a pulse.
He has gotten into two heated arguments with students.
So keep booing - that’s an easy one.
Do your part in withholding NIL.
Support movement in key PSU Letterman to get PSU to give someone else a chance to “play’em close” and maybe even pull an upset and/or win a big game every few decades.
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Comparing Frankin to Joe shows you are not serious.
Marcus Freeman has a better resume in the last fortnight…including beating the Knute Rockne of Central PA himself.
Do we have our heads in the sand so badly that we do not realize the entire CFB would is laughing. And they are holding a sheet of paper with the evidence to back it up - guilty as charged.
Who I “root for” is not relevant here. I am a PSU guy - through and through.
But I am not naive enough to see the handwriting on the wall. Losing virtually every big game is Franklin’s forte.
As Bob Dole used to say: you know it, I know it, the American people know it.
My Penn State daughters just assume we will lose any important game - its all they know. I have to show them that it did not used to be that way - in fact it was once quite the opposite.
We can do better (also could do worse ). I am in the camp of willing to try to get out this football purgatory.
BTW, I would say that most of the Lettermen feel this way. That counts for something I would think.
I remember a few at Maryland wins that I would count.
How about at #1 Ohio State? At #1 Notre Dame. At #1 Pitt. Just for starters.
What are the Franklin compareables?
None of them were in his first 10 years.
St joe had zero wins vs teams that finished in the top 5 in his first 10 years. 0-9. He was 1-9 vs teams ranked top 5. Only win was mighty NC state who finished outside the top 15.
Joe is dead. Would you replace franklin with joes rotting corpse? Rhule, schiano, golden and O'Brien have a total of zero top 5 wins combined. That is the comparables.