Clemson and SEC in talks
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Yes they did last year. But we're digging ourselves out of a deep hole and hopefully we're more competitive this year. Besides Vanderbilt who else in the SEC would they beat 30-0?
People can keep their pants on. If the SEC wants UPC, South Carolina won't be able to keep them out. And we ain't gonna leave over it, either.
That's where we respectfully disagree. Where we probably agree is I think Clemson is the only ACC team that would fit in the SEC. And I'm just talking about football.
Mark my words. The ACC and the Big 10 will stay put at 16 teams. Notre Dame has decided to wait and I do not see them joining the ACC and the Big 10. There is just too many issues with Clemson that the SEC will not want to deal with and lets just say this Clemson has burnt a lot of bridges over the years and people have not forgotten. In my personal opinion Clemson cannot get the 75% of the votes by SEC members which would be 11 members. Not going to happen. The ACC and the Big 10 will stay at 16.
Right! NC State a better fit for SEC. In a great area as well too.
The whole school at Clemson is not $300 million. Not going to happen. The ACC will stay in place as the Big 10.
I can't see into the future so I have no idea what any team will do next year nor does anyone else.
The future is unknown to us. Years ago is irrelevant. These are just our opinions and I respect them all as such.
Who exactly is going to block them? I don’t see it being South Carolina. No way the SC legislature would stand by and let the state miss out on a state university getting millions more in revenue. I just don’t see it happening. I know we fans like to say it will because of rivalry and all but I just don’t see the board and legislature letting that happen.
I am by no means defending them just saying how I see this going. If the powers to be in the sec and Clemson both mutually want it to happen, SC is not stopping it. Just see texas as an example. Texas A&M says high.
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You Tigers are so full of yourselves! The rest of the country could care less about you!
NC State football is better than UNC...SEC is probably not looking for academic prestige (Oklahoma?).
Lol. Those glasses are heavily shaded. Just because you might hate Clemson does not mean that other people that enjoy football does not want to watch high quality teams and games. Clemson, for the past 10-12 years has provided that. And again, that adds money to peoples pockets.
It is also interesting how you never address or respond to anything with facts, data or stats. You just kind of throw it out the window and ignore it.
What the hell are you doing on a Gamecock site. Noone cares about Clemson on this site and they never will. If you think winning games in the national trailer park league is good, well so be it. Please go to Tigernet. You are not welcome here.
SEC to Clemson. Not interested. No value in Clemson whatsoever. Go back to that trailer park league you play in.
Hate to tell you this but the SEC is sitting tight at 16 teams. Have fun rotting in the ACC!
Clemson would and could NEVER bring the revenues Texas is bringing, people need to learn the difference between apples and oranges.
I know you love to hate us but what you are sadly mistaken. I’m not saying the SEC will shell out $300 mil to have us join, but we are a top 10 brand in college football right now.
2021 our games averaged 2.67 million viewers (9th) ahead of Penn state. Florida. A&M. Texas. FSU. Wisconsin. SoCal.
Our game vs UGA was 4th most watched regular season game with 8.9 million viewers. So even if all 5 million SC residents were watching 3.9 million people were tuning in from somewhere else in the country. Maybe even Boise Idaho
Ranking top 10 most-watched games of 2021 season
The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel revealed the top 10 most-watched college football games of the 2021 regular season, ranking them by audience.
Remember until FSU started their decline, Clemson wasn't sniffing the ACC championship.
You mean the difference between oranges and burnt oranges?
Maybe not talking anymore?
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...wants-to-end-expansion-race-stay-at-16-teams/
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...wants-to-end-expansion-race-stay-at-16-teams/
I know you love to hate us but what you are sadly mistaken. I’m not saying the SEC will shell out $300 mil to have us join, but we are a top 10 brand in college football right now.
2021 our games averaged 2.67 million viewers (9th) ahead of Penn state. Florida. A&M. Texas. FSU. Wisconsin. SoCal.
Our game vs UGA was 4th most watched regular season game with 8.9 million viewers. So even if all 5 million SC residents were watching 3.9 million people were tuning in from somewhere else in the country. Maybe even Boise Idaho
Ranking top 10 most-watched games of 2021 season
The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel revealed the top 10 most-watched college football games of the 2021 regular season, ranking them by audience.www.on3.com
I guess UGA had nothing to do with the interest in this game? By the way the population of Georgia is 10.5 million. Your statement is stupid about the number of viewers of the UGA/Clem game. UGA fans are more fanatical than Clem fans. Trust me I live in the Augusta area and have to interact with both. One similarity between UGA and Clem fans is the majority are a bunch of bandwagon rednecks that have never seen the inside of a classroom at either school. You Clem fans need to get over yourselves!
Clemson has 468 million reasons to stay. The SEC is not going to be paying anything out to bring on another team. Any team would have to increase revenue to all the SEC schools. Not happening.
"The current grant-of-rights deal would require a school to be penalized their annual revenue distribution, which was a little more than $36 million for Clemson in 2020-21, multiplied by the number of years remaining on the grant-of-rights contract. That means if the Tigers joined the SEC in 2024 – the same year as Oklahoma and Texas – Clemson would have to pay roughly $468 million to leave the ACC."
https://www.greenvilleonline.com/st...all-sec-2022-acc-grant-of-rights/10022910002/
"The current grant-of-rights deal would require a school to be penalized their annual revenue distribution, which was a little more than $36 million for Clemson in 2020-21, multiplied by the number of years remaining on the grant-of-rights contract. That means if the Tigers joined the SEC in 2024 – the same year as Oklahoma and Texas – Clemson would have to pay roughly $468 million to leave the ACC."
https://www.greenvilleonline.com/st...all-sec-2022-acc-grant-of-rights/10022910002/
Would you project such a winning percentage on a "year in, year out" basis? Playing through the meat-grinder would have its effects.
Congratulations, you have changed my opinion. I believe now that I see 5 PROBABLE losses.
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Look I hate clemson as much as the next Carolina fan but I’m not one to believe they would suddenly lose 5 games a year. They would average 1-2 loses a year same as Georgia or Alabama. If we are discussing the last ten years. Before that yes it would have been more.
Wrong. I know they have lost at least 3 games to SEC teams.
Bama
LSU
Georgia.
And playing an ACC schedule + us + maybe one other SEC team isn't the same as playing a full SEC schedule.
Fact: Carolina is in the SEC
Fact: Clemson is not (but, is a member of the "Alliance")
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