Coming in bunches it seems.
Coming in bunches it seems.
Not sure i agree... he basically lied all the way through. Refused to ever take any accountability... and was generally an unlikable jackwagon. My guess is he is in the Hall in 12-24 monthsOne can see the similarity of PSU's case with the public and Pete Rose with MLB. Pete was made "an example" of what is all wrong with baseball and was blackmarked for life while those who came after him committed even worse infractions and were given a pass by the media and the fans.
I'll take the over on that.Not sure i agree... he basically lied all the way through. Refused to ever take any accountability... and was generally an unlikable jackwagon. My guess is he is in the Hall in 12-24 months
He does deserve to be in the HOF based on his numbers alone, but the baseball "purists" have poisoned the waters so badly that I really don't think he'll have a chance to ever get in.Not sure i agree... he basically lied all the way through. Refused to ever take any accountability... and was generally an unlikable jackwagon. My guess is he is in the Hall in 12-24 months
I agreeā¦..I base my opinion on his on the field performance and accomplishment. Do I agree with certain of his lifestyle choices/ vices ā¦..no. I look only at his performance as a player. He was more than sufficiently penalized by several commisoners. Time to look past his personal issues. He paid his dues for his conduct etc etc.Absolutely deserves to be in the HOF.
Sad news aOne can see the similarity of PSU's case with the public and Pete Rose with MLB. Pete was made "an example" of what is all wrong with baseball and was blackmarked for life while those who came after him committed even worse infractions and were given a pass by the media and the fans.
boutNot sure i agree... he basically lied all the way through. Refused to ever take any accountability... and was generally an unlikable jackwagon. My guess is he is in the Hall in 12-24 months
Sad news about Pete passing. However, he violated the cardinal rule: donāt bet on baseball. There are signs on every clubhouse reminding everyone about this rule. Someone from the Commissionerās office also visits each team in spring training with a further reminder. Pete then compounded his violation of this rule by arrogantly denying he bet on the game most likely thinking that his on field performance and his numerous apologists would get his banishment from the Hall responded. Even after Manfred became Commissioner and gave him a chance to come clean he still denied betting on the game. It was only recently when he finally recognized his own mortality did he fess up. I am sorry about his passing but fully agree with him being banned from the Hall.I agreeā¦..I base my opinion on his on the field performance and accomplishment. Do I agree with certain of his lifestyle choices/ vices ā¦..no. I look only at his performance as a player. He was more than sufficiently penalized by several commisoners. Time to look past his personal issues. He paid his dues for his conduct etc etc.
I agree Tom. The hypocrisy of the MLB itself, as now you can watch a game and get at least a dozen commercials advertising gambling during the game. Then you have the Aās moving from Oaklandā¦.to Vegas. Itās just my opinion, and maybe itās old fashioned thinking, but pro sports teams in Vegas feels like a conflict of interest.Just a reflection on the hypocrisy our society. Iām not advocating for his admission to Cooperstown. But it appears that thereās racists, wife beaters, drunkards, probably a couple child molesters and Lord knows what other miscreants are in there. I donāt believe heād totally upset the pristine harmony of the place if they let him in. Hell, Pete canāt even lay a wager down on his chances after today.
To be fair, you just described Tom Brady.Not sure i agree... he basically lied all the way through. Refused to ever take any accountability... and was generally an unlikable jackwagon. My guess is he is in the Hall in 12-24 months
Tom Brady bet on football?To be fair, you just described Tom Brady.
Nothing hypocritical about itā¦MLB teams also have beer companies as sponsors. Are they hypocrites if they donāt allow pitchers and umpires to drink before/during games (insert obvious Angel Hernandez joke)?I agree Tom. The hypocrisy of the MLB itself, as now you can watch a game and get at least a dozen commercials advertising gambling during the game. Then you have the Aās moving from Oaklandā¦.to Vegas. Itās just my opinion, and maybe itās old fashioned thinking, but pro sports teams in Vegas feels like a conflict of interest.
Coming in bunches it seems.
I played a LOT of baseball over 20 years. I never thought he was top-echelon at any point, but he did play very well for a long time. But his tenacity in conjunction with his performance made him an icon like few others.
A cheater is a cheater.Tom Brady bet on football?
Wilt almost certainly played 500 āroundsā in five different positions ā¦Read that heās the only player ever to record 500 games at five different positions.
I get the protecting of the sport. Yet, somehow they ignored the steroid era until it was too late and out of control.Nothing hypocritical about itā¦MLB teams also have beer companies as sponsors. Are they hypocrites if they donāt allow pitchers and umpires to drink before/during games (insert obvious Angel Hernandez joke)?
There is a time and a placeā¦MLB players/managers betting on their games completely crosses the line, and MLB did what was needed to protect the sport.
Coming in bunches it seems.
Hack Wilson set a record, 191 RBIs in a season, that Babe Ruth said would never be broken and has not been broken in almost 100 years. He had the stats to get into the Hall of Fame but he didnāt get in until 30 years after his death because he was a drunk. The HOF is determined by performance on the field and bad behavior off the field shouldnāt matter. Maybe Lenny Dykstra will get in some day and I wonāt argue but I will remember him as a spoiled, self centered, disgusting lowlife.Not sure i agree... he basically lied all the way through. Refused to ever take any accountability... and was generally an unlikable jackwagon. My guess is he is in the Hall in 12-24 months
Fair enough. But the obvious and promoted entanglement of pro sports and betting has skewed the lines quite a bit. Just my 2 cents. Correct me if IāM wrong, but didnāt they only surmise that Rose bet on baseball as a manager? If so, fine, but his career as a player is HOF worthy. Also, MLB didnāt seem to care about protecting the sport when Barry Bondās head was growing year by year or Roger Clemens was throwing broken bats at baserunners or Mark McGwire or Jose Canseco looking like professional bodybuilders.Nothing hypocritical about itā¦MLB teams also have beer companies as sponsors. Are they hypocrites if they donāt allow pitchers and umpires to drink before/during games (insert obvious Angel Hernandez joke)?
There is a time and a placeā¦MLB players/managers betting on their games completely crosses the line, and MLB did what was needed to protect the sport.
He finished in the top 10 of the MVP vote 10 times, led the league in hitting three times, led the league in hits 7 times. Thatās pretty upper echelon.I played a LOT of baseball over 20 years. I never thought he was top-echelon at any point, but he did play very well for a long time. But his tenacity in conjunction with his performance made him an icon like few others.
You're wrong.Fair enough. But the obvious and promoted entanglement of pro sports and betting has skewed the lines quite a bit. Just my 2 cents. Correct me if IāM wrong, but didnāt they only surmise that Rose bet on baseball as a manager? If so, fine, but his career as a player is HOF worthy. Also, MLB didnāt seem to care about protecting the sport when Barry Bondās head was growing year by year or Roger Clemens was throwing broken bats at baserunners or Mark McGwire or Jose Canseco looking like professional bodybuilders.