Doubtful. Harbaugh will just use this to close ranks and tell them to ignore the outside noise. They've only got scrimmages before they play us anyway so more time to get fine-tuned.
Official 2023 PSU - Ohio State game thread
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Love manny, but he can’t run both sides of the ball. If he goes, chalk it up to he sees the writing on the wall here as far as what we are capable of under CJF.
Problem is, no one on that beat has the guts to challenge him like that and before you say Giger, he's too much of a dolt to sound coherent in trying it. Need a fan masquerading as a reporter (get me a credential, I'm at least media!!) to get into the system. Hmmmm...anyone got the phone number to call in on Tuesdays?
They were getting hit two yards deep in the backfield quite often. After about 5 games in the season, PSU was ranked around 96th in yards beyond scrimmage before first contact on a running play.
Manny was as good as gone as soon as the clock hit 0:00 against Iowa. There’s no way he’s not getting a HC offer after that.
Yurcich… I just don’t get it. I didn’t get it last year, either. You look at a game like Okla/UCF today, you see the dynamic plays they’re running, then you look at us, and it’s like, “My god. How can we possibly make everything look so hard?”
One of the more dissapointing aspects of Allar's play today was his lack of speed or breaking tackles on any runs. I knew he didn't have jets, but figured he had enough speed, and was a big enough body to move the ball better, ala Roethlisberger. OSUs athletic D put that to rest quickly.
CJF isn’t going anywhere unless he wants to. That contract is huge and guys like Deon who can come in and catch lightning in a bottle are rare. You have to let the next guy build and that takes years. This only has a chance to get better when he leaves or finds Saquon part 2 or finds JoMo who can confuse defenses for a season. CFJ isn’t beating OSU, Michigan, or USC. 10-2 or 9-3 is where it’s at until he goes.I guess a few on here will be thrilled, but seems like a real waste of opportunity for a school that could be great.Problem is, no one on that beat has the guts to challenge him like that and before you say Giger, he's too much of a dolt to sound coherent in trying it. Need a fan masquerading as a reporter (get me a credential, I'm at least media!!) to get into the system. Hmmmm...anyone got the phone number to call in on Tuesdays?
It started with Hack took him getting concussed against GA. to get Trace in the game and almost win.
Trace was limping in games while Will watched from the side lines'
Drew stunk today , maybe he'll have better days , but Beau deserved a shot , not to take over, but to change it up.
Trace was limping in games while Will watched from the side lines'
Drew stunk today , maybe he'll have better days , but Beau deserved a shot , not to take over, but to change it up.
Disagree about lightning in a bottle; new coaching hires are far more likely to win their first NC within the first four years than not if they do win one. Dabo the only real recent exception (even then fewer than 10 years).
New York Times even did an article about this in 2016…
It is close to a fact of life that college football coaches who win a national title do so in their first few years. Since 2000, every title but two has been won by a coach in his second, third or fourth year with his team — or by a coach who has already done so with the same team.
I respect what your saying. I've been a fan my whole life and have played alot football and watched even more. I understand the ebbs and flows of games and seasons and we have defense that can play with anyone and no doubt an offense that needs work. Im personally not sold on Michigan like you appear to be and I like our chances at home. Time will prove me right or wrong and if your a Penn State fan and I assume your are I hope you hope I'm right.Is this your first year as a PSU fan under Franklin?
I would love to see us under center and see what happens to those stats. Those delayed mesh handoffs from shotgun are awful.
Lee Corso will be putting on his Hoosier Momma hat as the upset special .
Our WR are not good enough to play against top-level competition. There is no Bobby Engram, Joe J, Allen Robinson, Chris Godwin, KJ Hamler, etc. on this team. Our WR were absolutely dominated in this game. The signs for this happening have been there all season long.
Can’t play yourself into more playing time? Can’t improve? Players misevaluated? Players sat on bench for other reasons (Veilleux). Never happened before?
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He knows. They all know. You play to win the whole thing. Unless you beat OSU and Michigan, it isn’t happening.
Oh I have a bloodlust for beating both Michigan and OSU but the sad part is that when we get into these games under Franklin, I expect to be disappointed and I expect decisions will be made that will make us roll our eyes over and over again. I'm almost not even mad about the result today even though I thought there was a very good chance for a win. But I know what we're dealing with on the sidelines and that group over there, minus Diaz, does not have the intangibles to win a big game.
He tries to be too cute by half every single time in these big games. Remember when we were moving it well a couple years back and boom, Lion package put in our of nowhere, fails, momentum stopped.
Against Iowa, we did the tush push over and over to tremendous success. The T formation has produced incredibly well for us in short yardage this year. So what do we do in short yardage when the biggest game comes around and the passing game isn’t working at all? Throw it. Then when it’s 3rd and mid, we run. Then when we’re driving well and boom, trick play that fails annually against the big teams, momentum halted (tell me the last time we had a successful play on one of those against OSU or UM?). Then a big turnover, and boom, trick play that goes for a loss. Nevermind decisions like going for it on 4th and medium when you’re 0-13 on 3rd downs on the day and there’s plenty of time to pin them deep and get it back.
They’re trying too hard to outwit with what’s unexpected instead of going with what’s been simple and successful. We have a decade-long sample size now if Franklin being overwhelmed and failing in the biggest games. This is who he is, and who he will always be, it’s not going to change.
He never had any interest in PSU. Not even remotely and he didn’t hide it. He went to HS in Philly (SJP) but is from NJ. Don’t get me started.
PIAA my ***.I must admit the three back set could have been useful. Shame that one got shelved for the flea flicker after your qb throws his first successful TD.
This game is why 5* Philly WRs go to OSU. PSU doesn’t have a vision or plan on offense. It’s been that way since O’Brien left.
That’s exactly why a change may be good. It could also be bad, but we know exactly the ceiling with Franklin. PSU reached it several years ago.LOL and double the efforts to get a top OT from the portal also...
Definitely great for a wish list each year...
LOL. Penn State does not recruit itself as we all imagine...PSU is at a higher level of talent than it would be without Franklin...but it is still significantly less than OSU, Georgia and Alabama. This particular group has some over-achievers playing beyond their rating, which is why some of us thought that we had a chance this year. For example, Fashanu and Abdul Carter would likely be 5-stars if their level of play had been accurately projected. But otherwise, there are still a very few teams who have 5-star busts that you never hear about because there is another 5-star who steps in. It is what it is, and good luck finding a coach that elevates recruiting beyond CJF's level.
I'm taking the position that Cephus was overrated by the sports writers. Of he is as good as the BWI guys claim he is, why wouldn't he be starting and making big plays?
I think these coaches try to prove they're the smartest guys in the room by trying to be "innovative" all the time. Instead of doing what those rubes sitting on their couches would do (and what is working by they way), they want to show how super smart they are by calling some obscure play.
Nobody seems to trust the coaching, so why trust the decisions on who plays? Give him and Saunders some PT and see.
Because the OL can’t open holes for them like last year and the defense has no fear of the passing game, so they are loading the box.
I think Franklin is a really good coach, I just think in the biggest games he craps the bed and does things very differently than what we see in the other games. The other games prove he’s a great coach, the big games prove he also gets overwhelmed and chokes.
Lol that doesn’t matter either. Yo I need to drive your M8, it’ll help me pick 2,3 or 4
Because I think Manny has his eyes on bigger things. I think Hartline enjoys his role and being at OSU. Certainly he could’ve moved up elsewhere by now if he’d wanted to.
Manny is the only coach on this staff who really belongs in big time CFB. It likely is not a coincidence that Franklin has a background as an OC and the defense has been consistently good through his tenure.
Just a guess, but I think Franklin lets guys like Pry and Manny do their thing while he is heavily involved in the offense which has been more up and down.
I agree. Manny is a leader and I just never got the feeling he is entirely comfortable in a subordinate role.
There’s going to be a lot of pressure on WR Coach Marques Hagans to get some Blue Chip studs in here and FAST. Either through recruiting or the portal. Assuming Stubblefield was fired out of nowhere based on his recruiting, I think we can all admit that we was a pretty good developer. WR drops were almost never talked about since he got here and his group never looked this terrible.
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