Making things up? You know that how?
As for Krafty, he has not said that - publicly or privately. Let’s just say he is watching closely.
OK- So tell me who you're going to hire
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As for Krafty, he has not said that - publicly or privately. Let’s just say he is watching closely.
Texas boofed it when they went with Charlie Strong. Then they fired Tom Hermann way too soon - I think he was a great fit. Just too much booster interference. He was 4-0 in bowls; just too many internal (player/booster) distractions. FSU has an NC within the last decade and seem to have course corrected.
If I’m Kraft I keep Franklin but no more extensions. Franklin’s stock will rise next year when we make the CFP and for all his game day blunders I think Franklin gets the big picture. I haven’t heard him whine about facilities or support so assume he is getting those things. We talk new contract/extension when we go to a NC game.
Christ, that is 8 more years of this…is 18 years enough?…WW1 & WW2 & Korea combined took less time. And the USA netted positive results in all 3!
Matt Rhule and Greg Schiano aren’t “Petey”.
The problem I have is how hard he had to fight for some of those things. People want to compare PSU to other schools, well other schools in the South or just due west in particular don't put up road blocks to their HC. When you hear Sean, Nate, Ryan, and some others talk about how internally dysfunctional that program/school was, it makes me wonder why he honestly didn't bolt sooner as he did have the opportunities. OB said the same thing....he was taken back how far behind PSU was in the arms race.
The 10 year contracts are a nightmare....but schools are too paranoid to lose a good HC as that AD that loses a good coach may not be there long. MSU was lucky Mel Tugger was an idiot and allowed them an out.
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I just don’t see Franklin going anywhere. New format provides expanded access to CFP, new facilities investments, massive and dedicated fan base, solid recruiting area, etc. I’d consider leaving for USC, Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, A&M, LSU, maybe Notre Dame, maybe Michigan. Don’t see many openings there anytime soon. And since 1950, Franklin is Penn State’s fourth HC (not counting Bradley’s one game) - best place to cement a legacy I think.
Tampa Bay fixed that mistake in two years. UTk hired Jeremy Pruitt, instead, demonstrating brilliant judegement.
I would like to know what those coaches records are as underdogs. I assume some of them like Day and Saban haven't been underdogs much. My point is that if you are consistently playing teams that aren't as good as you are, you are going to have a very good winning percentage.
Agree with you that Franklin is t going anywhere.
That said, Franklin’s legacy will be “the PSU coach who demanded much but delivered little”
Sorry, I think I maxed out my desire to research. But just thinking about it, you can’t say all 10 are always favorites against other top 10s. Obviously these 10 aren’t always the top 10 as it shifts all the time, but math would seem to dictate they can’t all always be the favorites.
Regardless, what does it say if James’ teams are always the dogs in those big games? That his teams are over performing to become top 10 teams, if they don’t actually match up well with other top 10s? Are the sharps that move the lines taking into account history in those games? And if his teams are just overmatched in talent and that’s the reason, who is to blame for that in year 10? Him, facilities, NIL money?
What the hell are you babbling about? I don't support, nor would I vote for either one.
Cry all you want about the coach. Who cares? He certainly doesn't.
To be fair...they all do their jobs faithfully and flawlessly. In addition their record is sterling on Madden and in the back yard Thanksgiving morning! We deserve better.....my candidates are Lincoln Riley, Jimbo Fisher, Jim Harbaugh, Mario Cristobel and Kirk Ferentz.....
It’s pretty simple logic about whether you can or cannot criticize someone unless you do the job or know their practice better than them. I provided 3 clear examples to demonstrate the absurdity of saying you can’t.
And wait, James doesn’t care about my criticism?!? Oh if I’d only known, I could’ve saved so much time. Thank God he cares so much about your support.
We already know that Rhule kicked Franklins a** with Temple talent. Give the guy resources ($, facilities, and program support) and he would pull a Harbaugh on Franklin, He went to Nebraska where the cupboard was bare and he had to make do with quarterbacks who were below average. What is he doing? He will likely get them to a bowl. Oh, and Franklin lost to Nebraska and Scott Frost, get your mind around that.
Why not? Each of them have ranked programs. You guys make it sound like changing coaches is the kiss of death. When we bring up 18 teams that have changed coaches since we hired Franklin and have won championships, made the CFP and are currently ranked you dismiss them. Why? Because they show your entire argument about coaching changes is foolish.
Then let the excuse making for this bottom feeder of a coach end and let him take one of those "offers" you think he is fielding.
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I do things more complicated than a football game by an order of magnitude on a daily basis. To think that I can't comprehend a football game enough to offer critique and criticism, just because I've never walked a sideline is ludicrous.
Do I know as much about football as James Franklin? Of course not. Do I know as much about football as our resident board coaches? Maybe not. Do I know enough about football to criticize a play call or game decision? Of course I do.
In the last 3 months I've pointed out where my podiatrist, HVAC tech and my auto mechanic were wrong despite having never held down any of those jobs.
C'mon gang....it ain't landing on the moon or nuclear fission. If I can understand differential equations I think I can comment on Cover 2.
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I do things more complicated than a football game by an order of magnitude on a daily basis. To think that I can't comprehend a football game enough to offer critique and criticism, just because I've never walked a sideline is ludicrous.
Do I know as much about football as James Franklin? Of course not. Do I know as much about football as our resident board coaches? Maybe not. Do I know enough about football to criticize a play call or game decision? Of course I do.
In the last 3 months I've pointed out where my podiatrist, HVAC tech and my auto mechanic were wrong despite having never held down any of those jobs.
C'mon gang....it ain't landing on the moon or nuclear fission. If I can understand differential equations I think I can comment on Cover 2.
sure- but the question I asked was who specifically would you say is better, and available
throwing rocks is easy, building a house, not so much
Fair, but I wasn't responding to you....was responding to the folks who constantly tell us we aren't qualified to comment because we never walked a HS sideline.
My answer to your question....
1. Disagree with your premise that I couldn't throw rocks. I had a CIO tell me last night that something was unacceptable. She is not going to fix it or tell us how to fix it. That's what she hired us for. Someone can state Franklin's performance is unacceptable without having to offer a solution. That's what Kraft is paid to do.
2. You want my answer....I have given it almost zero thought because Franklin is going nowhere. But....to play along...Urban Meyer. I don't care if he's a scumbag. This ain't JoePa's college football anymore. Screw being nice guys.
well, that's an honest answer- personally, I don't want Urbs anywhere near PSU
I wouldn't blame anybody for having that opinion about UM....
We agree. Very simple logic. A team loses, it's the coaches fault. Fire the coach. Can't get any simpler.
Let's pass the hat...a mere 67 million to buy out Franklin. .a few dollars more for his staff and 70-90 million to bring in the next victim. Easy peasy.
Yup. It’s a game and some things are not worth selling out for.So you would rather pay for incompetence in lieu of demonstrated success?
I'd love to see PSU give James A 67 million dollar parting gift and spend more for another coach. What better entertainment than watching all the same fanboys turn on his replacement? Newspapers don't have comics anymore just tune in here.
Yeah, I didn’t say buy him out and replace him. Not sure who you’re arguing with.
That's not the point. I'm not the only one here that can no longer afford to pay James. But this is a free message board and it never fails to amuse me.
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