That’s where I was yesterday. I’m still amazed that they allow someone who smells like me in the place.
Now I wonder about the net worth of those dogs.
Remember when rules mattered? Dogs in a mall.
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Some malls have signs you can't carry a weapon because it's "private property". Pure BS. If you have a CCP they can't stop you from carrying.So, my wife and I go to a mall yesterday for shopping, scones, lattes, the usual. For the first time at this mall, we saw people, inside the mall, walking their dogs. Around ten different people with a dog. These were not emergency medical dogs. No scarves or other signage visible. Just plain, ordinary dogs.
I figured that dogs must not really be allowed in this mall, so what gives? Checking the FAQ page on the mall’s website indicates that only certified medical dogs are allowed in the mall. What the hell?
My wife and I happened upon a security guard, and without reporting anyone, I asked him about all the dogs around. He said that despite the official policy, he and his fellow security guards are instructed not to confront anyone with a dog. The concern is that a dog owner will get offended, make a scene, lodge a complaint, etc. So, there really is no policy.
For f*ck’s sake. I remember a time when rules mattered, when rules were observed, and when rules were enforced. Now, we can’t risk offending the rule breaker.
I figure the policy will be enforced when someone gets bitten by a dog or a dog sh|ts on a store carpet.
Get off my mall!
But dogs are ok to mess in the mall.
Depending on the state, individuals with carry-permits can be banned from bringing their guns onto private property. Texas is one of those states.
I always figured if I was carrying concealed in a place that said it was prohibited, by the time anyone knew I was carrying the bullets would already be flying (unless there was a search like a courthouse or airport, etc). Questions would be answered later.
My favorite bumper sticker is "The more I'm around people, the more I love my dog".
Do you actually know how easy it is to order a brightly colored dog vest printed with the words “Service Animal” ?
https://www.workingservicedog.com/Do you actually know how easy it is to order a brightly colored dog vest printed with the words “Service Animal” ?
For $85 your dog can be registered and have an ID card.
We have this happen all the time at the restaurant all of the time. We allow all dogs on the patio and we bring them water annd bacon. Only working service dogs , not emotional support or dogs in strollers are allowed in the restaurant. People go nuts when we challenge. One person last week with a dog in the stroller was told no go but they could go on the patio and they were going. The guy was getting hotter by the second then told my 15 year old host that she was a cun! And walked out. So she told me this and then the game was on after that.
Service dogs and emotional support animals are two completely different things. Service dogs are specially trained to perform a service and are permitted almost everywhere, for good reason. ESAs may or may not be trained, and anyone can obtain an ESA certificate online with a few mouse clicks. People buy those certificates and fake "service dog" vests in order to exploit businesses that won't challenge the fact that ESAs are NOT trained service animals and won't kick them out of stores. ESAs do not share the same rights and protections as service animals.
I love dogs, but it's getting ridiculous seeing these obviously untrained dogs everywhere. My local grocery store won't even challenge these dog owners as they don't want to create a conflict where the dog owners flip out and it becomes a bigger mess such as a physical altercation. Dogs have no business in a grocery store. Fortunately airlines have said they will start cracking down. Businesses are completely within their rights to ask what special services the dogs have been trained to do before allowing them in a business, the problem is they won't enforce it and the pet owners that take advantage of that.
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I should have been clearer. I was saying the concerns around ESA’s as it relates to condos and HOA’s, specifically under The Fair Housing Act provisions. Under the FHA, ESA’s are offered protection. This issue became a hot topic in FL during 2023; we spent time and money with outside counsel throughout 2023.
Italy is one of the most pet friendly countries in the world. Pets are allowed in public places, restaurants, shops and public transport. The authorities are much more friendlier to cats and dogs than those in the US, Australia and the UK.
In Germany, pets are treated with high respect and care. Many Germans view their pets as family members and take their responsibilities as pet owners very seriously. For example, it is common to see dogs allowed in public places such as restaurants, cafes, and even some retail stores.
In France there is no law against having dogs inside restaurants, which means each restaurant gets to decide its own policy. Generally speaking, dogs are allowed in most sit-down restaurants in Paris, as long as they are well-behaved and don't sit on the furniture. (They have to remain on the floor.)
In Germany, pets are treated with high respect and care. Many Germans view their pets as family members and take their responsibilities as pet owners very seriously. For example, it is common to see dogs allowed in public places such as restaurants, cafes, and even some retail stores.
In France there is no law against having dogs inside restaurants, which means each restaurant gets to decide its own policy. Generally speaking, dogs are allowed in most sit-down restaurants in Paris, as long as they are well-behaved and don't sit on the furniture. (They have to remain on the floor.)
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It really depends on where you live and what is acceptable there. Ocean Beach in SD has the beach named Dog Beach. Just about every shop and restaurant is fine with it as are the people. Personally I don't care if the dog is behaved, but I don't look for feaux outrage either. If a store doesn't want them, I get that too and they can feel free to enforce it.
Society is so exciting now that people feel free to challenge every rule and decision that doesn't go their way.
I have a dog that is our family pet. I don't mind dogs or cats. However, I don't understand the need to bring them into Home Depot, or the Weis or any grocery store. Also, they do not belong in a food establishment. Outside patio seating I am okay with but not in the local Starbucks. Leave you fecking dog at home.
All the stupidity referenced here began with people dressing their dogs up in sweaters, raincoats, rain hats and booties. Once you’ve properly accessorized them you have to show them off.
Sounds like some of the chicks I met at The Skeller 40 years ago!
Too many adults who never heard the word ‘’no’’, rules and laws do not apply to the entitled. They are rich enough so if they are fined or caught they lie and buy their way out of it.
The amount of dogs in baby carriages is crazy - they are everywhere - now I assume it's a dog in there instead of a baby and I am right more than wrong. Oh and that dude would have gotten a good beatdown for saying something like that to anyone let alone a 15 year old hostess trying to do her job. People today feel that they have the f'ing right to do anything they want and f everyone else it effects.
I have been in Colorado since ’72, been an amazing run, climate beats anywhere else. I get outside more than my friends and relatives in Florida since we get close to 300 days of sun per year and the humidity is low. Never had to evacuate, don’t have floods at 6300 ft. Highly educated work force and plenty of jobs. Skied For over 40 years, mountain biked, white water rafted and hiked so far back off the grid you could almost hear Tom-Tom’s. Raised our son right, he is in aerospace engineering at CU, 1 more year. He is a Steelers and Penn State fan and got to attend the white out game last year. They are scattering our ashes when we pass by Longs Peak in RMNP.
I'll say this about the dogs in the stroller thing (and I DO reference, and joke about them) - in my neighborhood they are mostly widows with elderly little dogs that would likely have been put down by now. They lift the dog out of the stroller to do it's business, then put it back in and wheel it home.
In those instances, I understand. They're otherwise alone and they made a promise to their little dog to look after him.
I know old women who are waiting for their dogs to die so they can finally enter a retirement home.
Agree, I see an older guy in a 55+ community I’m often in carrying his frail little dog. At least he has enough man pride not to stroller it, which I applaud
"Estimates" because they cheat on taxes or have their money off shore. Am I wrong?
Just saying that is concentrated wealth at it's most concentrated. There are articles going back to the late 80's about wealth and Jupiter Island.
I spent a lot of time on Palm Beach - going out - in the mid-late 80's. Even saw Kennedy's in action at the old Bradley's as if I was Jane Goodall.
Palm Beach is so big and a ***** to navigate though. When I saw Jupiter Island for the first time I realized that this was where the really, really rich people lived down here.
Income and wealth are not the same.
Wealth is assets less liabilities.
Income is what what earned during a time period and does not account for appreciation of assets or reduction of liabilities.
So, if you bought something for $1 ten years ago and that something is now worth $100M your wealth has increased, but until you sell that something you have not impacted your income.
You would not have to cheat on your taxes to hide the change in wealth until you had the income from the sale.
