they dont have to replace 40% of their offense with just 1 guy , there are 4 other guys willing to take up the slack.
Report: Saquon Barkley rejected Giants offer worth up to $14 million
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I am sure the NYG would love to have SB take MS second contract. Heck they offered him 2x that amount, and SB turned him down.
Kids don't buy offensive lineman jerseys or 2nd and 3rd string RB jerseys, nor do fans come out with the intent to watch them. They want to see stars. The market will reset itself. It's just a matter of time.
FYI there's a huge population of young fans that are fans of certain players, not one team. The NFL is shooting itself in the foot if they keep allowing the franchise tag. The franchise tag is actually the direct opposite of capitalism, and the owners can falsely dictate a players worth by using it.
Yes. It's basic statistics. There is generally only 1 kicker per NFL team. Those players have an outsized impact on the outcome of games. Each franchise has 3-4 RBs as you say and the vast majority contribute very little to the outcome of games.
If you look at the distribution of salaries and not just the averages, then I think you'll see that kickers are bracketed much closer together and RBs is a much longer-tail distribution of salaries that brings the average way down.
Idk about all of that. The NFL has a Union which is to bargain for all their members, which they did
You can look no further than Zeke Elliot and his second contract vs performance for the state of the running back market
Your not wrong that it's a NFLPA problem. They trusted that the owners wouldn't collude to keep the best RB salaries down by franchising a group of them this year. Next up for 2024, Jonathan Taylor! His tag number will be even less than Barkley, Jacobs and Pollard's are this year. See how it works?
Collude? Please get over it, just the way things worked out. You don’t think they saw what happened w Jere and Zek?
You mean when Zeek got lazy and fat and didn't stay in shape because he got his money. Yeah, I saw that. Typical tOSU guy. You think Saquon would do that?
Why even take the risk? You can get somebody younger and cheaper and spend your money elsewhere
Some here are out of touch. NFL contracts are about length and guaranteed $. All Other $ figures are subject to circumstances. SB would have signed for 2 year and 23 million guaranteed.
The disrespect stems from the lack of a long term contract. Perhaps Mr. Barkley who is clearly the "face of the franchise" and the #1 most important weapon felt that he was worthy of a 2 or 3 year deal. The NY Giants have long been a buttoned up organization that values good athletes who are good citizens. In SB they have precisely that. Yet they didn't value it enough to give him an extra 2-3 million guaranteed to get him signed to a 2 year deal. He may feel disrespected.....or the NYG organization is owned by hypocrites?
This is certainly a take I haven't thought about on this situation.
“AFTER THE SAQUON NEWS, IF I’M A TOP HIGH SCHOOL RUNNING BACK, I’M HITTING THE BOOKS HARD.”
FIFY“AFTER THE SAQUON NEWS, IF I’M A TOP HIGH SCHOOL RUNNING BACK, I’M GOING TO WORK HARD AT KICKING FIELD GOALS.”
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Saquon mulls skipping season: 'I might have to'
Saquon Barkley says he has considered not playing for the Giants this season, admitting that he "might have to take it to this level" amid his stalemate with the team over a long-term contract.
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"Barkley, 26, finished fourth in the NFL with a career-high 1,312 rushing yards last season, ran for 10 touchdowns and tied for the team lead with 57 receptions. He has played in 60 career games over five seasons since being the No. 2 overall draft pick in 2018, when he was named Offensive Rookie of the Year."
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Stata the year Saquon missed due to injury.
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Stata the year Saquon missed due to injury.
"Barkley, 26, finished fourth in the NFL with a career-high 1,312 rushing yards last season, ran for 10 touchdowns and tied for the team lead with 57 receptions. He has played in 60 career games over five seasons since being the No. 2 overall draft pick in 2018, when he was named Offensive Rookie of the Year."
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Stata the year Saquon missed due to injury.
Daniel Jones has got this.
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How do you convince a man, who has been ultra competitive his entire life, that he has been beaten?
That's what is facing Saquon Barkley now. It's a tough pill to swallow when you are coming off a triumphant year --- excellent all purpose yards and proof that you are a leader on a playoff team. You say and do everything right, according to your team's standards.
When it comes time to reap the rewards, circumstance in the NFL takes away your leverage. Running backs are devalued --- they age, they get hurt, they can be contained, etc.
He's being asked to take on the rigors of the position for just over ten million a year. As a New York player, there's commercial gold to be mined as well. Whereas it is not comparable to the forty million his quarterback received, it ain't chicken feed.
Sitting out the season on principle would be a fruitless gesture. Next year, he'll be a year older and there will be a fresh crop of kids who could flood the market even more.
I'm sure the Giants appreciate what he means to the team, but with a hard cap in the NFL, they have to be realistic. Reports are that their last offer guaranteed twenty two million. That's market rate. It's not fair compared to other position's compensation, but it's what the computer says a running back of his caliber is worth.
Last year, the Giants reportedly offered him thirty six million, which he turned down and rolled the dice. He went out and had the kind of numbers he felt would justify more.
The crystal ball failed him. Regardless, he can still make generational money. Let's hope both sides can find a compromise they can live with. In the NFL, even great stars are deemed expendable. It's a sad fact in pro football.
How do you convince a man, who has been ultra competitive his entire life, that he has been beaten?
That's what is facing Saquon Barkley now. It's a tough pill to swallow when you are coming off a triumphant year --- excellent all purpose yards and proof that you are a leader on a playoff team. You say and do everything right, according to your team's standards.
When it comes time to reap the rewards, circumstance in the NFL takes away your leverage. Running backs are devalued --- they age, they get hurt, they can be contained, etc.
He's being asked to take on the rigors of the position for just over ten million a year. As a New York player, there's commercial gold to be mined as well. Whereas it is not comparable to the forty million his quarterback received, it ain't chicken feed.
Sitting out the season on principle would be a fruitless gesture. Next year, he'll be a year older and there will be a fresh crop of kids who could flood the market even more.
I'm sure the Giants appreciate what he means to the team, but with a hard cap in the NFL, they have to be realistic. Reports are that their last offer guaranteed twenty two million. That's market rate. It's not fair compared to other position's compensation, but it's what the computer says a running back of his caliber is worth.
Last year, the Giants reportedly offered him thirty six million, which he turned down and rolled the dice. He went out and had the kind of numbers he felt would justify more.
The crystal ball failed him. Regardless, he can still make generational money. Let's hope both sides can find a compromise they can live with. In the NFL, even great stars are deemed expendable. It's a sad fact in pro football.
That's funny. How much was guaranteed?
They could have offered him $100 million over 3 years with $22 million guaranteed over the first two years with a team out for the 3rd. That's a 2 year deal worth $22mm. I don't know why you don't understand this and keep posting this garbage.
I was lead to believe he could only be tagged in 2023 unless he sat out but upon further inspection it appears as though they could tag him again in 2024 but at a 120% increase.
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Pretend that this involves some player named John Smith who played his college football at UCLA and ask yourself what your opinion would be.
We all love Saquon, but I think he's playing a losing game here. There is no such thing as "fairness" in business. What you are selling is only worth what someone will pay you for it.
We all love Saquon, but I think he's playing a losing game here. There is no such thing as "fairness" in business. What you are selling is only worth what someone will pay you for it.
That leaves the giants w a $78 mil cap hit, so why would they do that?
I don’t know why you don’t understand this
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