And the franchise tag garbage is BS…finish out your contract and become a free agent, period. That’s a free market.
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The franchise tag is a form of labor restriction, albeit one the incompetent NFLPA ratified. The player’s union needs to get its act in gear like it’s MLB and NBA colleagues.
Nobody wants a long stoppage, but that may be the only way the NFLPA takes back the power it’s signed away.
Especially when your career could be over in one play.
And (the NFLPA) give up what in the next CBA?
On a philosophical basis, I don't disagree, but the reality differs.
Baseball 81 home games BB about 40. Smaller rosters. So fewer paydays and more employees.
Not on the side of billionaires on the side of the sport. Guaranteed contracts will ruin the sport. Heck it’s almost ruined baseball. Bryce Harper gets a hang nail and he’s out 2 months.
They are weak. How much revenue did the NFL lose during the replacement strike ??
Star RBs meet on Zoom to talk state of position
Several star NFL running backs took part in a Zoom call Saturday to discuss the depressed market for players at their position.
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They all are going to strike on Monday. On Tuesday 100 replacements will show upStar RBs meet on Zoom to talk state of position
Several star NFL running backs took part in a Zoom call Saturday to discuss the depressed market for players at their position.
Maybe 200
Top athletes should reconsider playing RB. You have guys 26-27 years old not getting contracts. No Star LB or DE or DB at 27 is going to go unsigned.
Josh Jacobs is arguably the best RB in the NFL. He 5’10 220 #. So where is he going to play? WR? DE? Let’s get real. C? Maybe SS? More reasonable. Do they make $10 mil per yr guaranteed ? Idk.
Ok great now the tag is up to $12,5 mil Who gets the most endorsements? Safeties or RB?
Gregg Doyel, Indianapolis Star
Mon, July 24, 2023 at 5:19 AM EDT·7 min read
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INDIANAPOLIS – Is this where we’re supposed to get upset about the wages of NFL running backs? Or are we allowed to think for ourselves, use that thing we call a “brain” and try to apply something known as “logic” to a situation that’s not exactly breaking my heart?
Jonathan Taylor, this is not about you. Not really. Well maybe a little bit.
For starters, and I say this with respect: Stop complaining. Stop whining. Stop going onto social media to lament the career choice you’ve made, where by the end of the 2025 NFL season you will have earned $30 million.
Before you turn 26.
Can I say all that? Can someone be the voice of reason, the voice of capitalism — America! — and stand in front of this self-pitying locomotive driven by New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley as the national media rides shotgun?
Or maybe this is where I prove my bona fides as A Man Of The People and climb aboard a cardboard box — where Barkley might have to live, if he doesn’t get his due — and insist the Giants pay Barkley (more) and the Colts pay Taylor (more). Otherwise the NFL had better change the way it treats its running backs, or we’re going to have a problem.
Couldn’t we just pass a hat instead?
'Doesn’t matter, you’re a RB': Jonathan Taylor responds to RBs not getting contracts
Let’s see what Saquon Barkley stands to earn, between now and next year, when he will finally become an unrestricted free agent. Give me a minute while I do that math. Let’s see, says here Barkley’s rookie contract in 2018, plus the team extension in 2022, was for five years and $38.3 million. If he and the Giants don’t agree to an extension between now and 2025, if the Giants give Barkley that Draconian thing called a “franchise tag,” he stands to earn about $10.1 million in ’23 and $12.1 million in ’24.
For Barkley, since entering the NFL in 2018, that’s seven years for a total of about $60 million.
We’re going to need a bigger hat.
MORE: RBs should stop complaining and listen to what NFL is saying: You're not that valuable. (yahoo.com)
Mon, July 24, 2023 at 5:19 AM EDT·7 min read
42
INDIANAPOLIS – Is this where we’re supposed to get upset about the wages of NFL running backs? Or are we allowed to think for ourselves, use that thing we call a “brain” and try to apply something known as “logic” to a situation that’s not exactly breaking my heart?
Jonathan Taylor, this is not about you. Not really. Well maybe a little bit.
For starters, and I say this with respect: Stop complaining. Stop whining. Stop going onto social media to lament the career choice you’ve made, where by the end of the 2025 NFL season you will have earned $30 million.
Before you turn 26.
Can I say all that? Can someone be the voice of reason, the voice of capitalism — America! — and stand in front of this self-pitying locomotive driven by New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley as the national media rides shotgun?
Or maybe this is where I prove my bona fides as A Man Of The People and climb aboard a cardboard box — where Barkley might have to live, if he doesn’t get his due — and insist the Giants pay Barkley (more) and the Colts pay Taylor (more). Otherwise the NFL had better change the way it treats its running backs, or we’re going to have a problem.
Couldn’t we just pass a hat instead?
'Doesn’t matter, you’re a RB': Jonathan Taylor responds to RBs not getting contracts
Let’s see what Saquon Barkley stands to earn, between now and next year, when he will finally become an unrestricted free agent. Give me a minute while I do that math. Let’s see, says here Barkley’s rookie contract in 2018, plus the team extension in 2022, was for five years and $38.3 million. If he and the Giants don’t agree to an extension between now and 2025, if the Giants give Barkley that Draconian thing called a “franchise tag,” he stands to earn about $10.1 million in ’23 and $12.1 million in ’24.
For Barkley, since entering the NFL in 2018, that’s seven years for a total of about $60 million.
We’re going to need a bigger hat.
MORE: RBs should stop complaining and listen to what NFL is saying: You're not that valuable. (yahoo.com)
Forgot about this. Probably why he’s so desperate to get as much guaranteed money as possible as soon as possible. Took a bath on Bitcoin….
www.cnbc.com
New York Giants' Saquon Barkley will convert all his endorsement money to bitcoin: 'You want to create generational wealth'
"I am going to be taking my marketing money in bitcoin," Giants running back Saquon Barkley told Anthony Pompliano on the "The Best Business Show."
www.cnbc.com
Here's NFL guaranteed contracts. Sean Payton gets $18mm a year for one Superbowl win? Pete Carroll is 71 years old and still making $15mm a year and yet a RB in his prime is making 10.5mm(about the same as Josh McDaniels)? It's complete BS. Help me understand why coaches contracts aren't part of the salary cap.
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because they are coaches, not players. they are not in a union.Here's NFL guaranteed contracts. Sean Payton gets $18mm a year for one Superbowl win? Pete Carroll is 71 years old and still making $15mm a year and yet a RB in his prime is making 10.5mm(about the same as Josh McDaniels)? It's complete BS. Help me understand why coaches contracts aren't part of the salary cap.
Top 5 Highest-Paid NFL Head Coaches
Who are the highest-paid NFL head coaches? We're counting down the top five as the 2024 NFL offseason begins.
So the owners will give the coaches huge guaranteed contracts because they aren't in a union? That's odd, right?
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"In December, NFL officials informed owners that the league’s 32 franchises had collectively spent over $800 million on fired coaches and front-office executives over the last five years."
Cardinals, Texans Add to Lengthy Bill for Fired NFL Head Coaches
NFL teams have spent $800M on fired coaches and executives since 2017. Arizona fired Kliff Kingsbury after extending him last offseason.
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No, the CBA simply caps how stupid the owners can be when it comes to compensating players. No such limitation exists with coaches.
Oh, I'm aware. My point is these teams that are saving $5mm a year by franchising their players are the same ones paying $800mm for coaches and front office execs to stay home and do nothing. Then people side with the owners on this? That's ironic.
NFL coaches and their agents are some of the shrewdest (note I did not say "smartest") people out there. You'd think with only 32 "dream jobs" available for pro football coaches, NFL owners would exert more leverage over compensation for anyone not named Belichek or Reid.
It's not a matter of siding with the owners. Players have as much to do with the CBA as the owners do. They don't like it, they can negotiate a change next time. But keep in mind that a player who is bench ballast carries the same weight as an All-Pro.
That's why the average NFL player is in the league for 3 years.
Average NFL career length | Statista
The average career length of an NFL player is 3.3 years. However, running backs had an average career length of under 2.6 years.
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$15 million isn’t even a rounding error on the Mbappe deal. Heck, let Saquon serve as associate agent and earn that as a commission.
Like I said earlier in this thread, what would happen if the Saudis bought the USFL or XFL right now? Scary thing is it's not crazy talk.
Until the PGA caved and merged with LIV, I may have argued with you. Now I agree.
The NFL has an urgent issue to work through: whether to change its ownership rules so a sovereign wealth fund can purchase a franchise.
Doing this serves two purposes: 1. It prevents the scenario you describe and a costly, 1980s style arms race for talent; and 2. significantly boosts the value of NFL franchises instantly.
NFL owners seem to care as much about their bottom line as much as keeping their club exclusive (and mainly white). It will be fun to see what trumps what here.
I just don't understand what Saquon thinks he'll gain by sitting out. He has zero leverage. He can't force a contract now that he's been tagged. He needs to sign that tag, report to camp and have a great year. The longer he sits out, the more likely he's unprepared for the season which can lead to 2 things...injury or a down year, both of which will hurt him in free agency.
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