Report: Saquon Barkley rejected Giants offer worth up to $14 million
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Any money that isn't guaranteed in the contract is imaginary money. Even the $78mm cap hit money is imaginary money that that doesn't get paid out. Would it be good business to have a huge cap hit? No. Look at the Rams. But at least they can say they won a SB recently.
real imaginary does not matter to clubs, its all about the cap. People saw what happened to Zeek, they would rather go younger and cheaper.
And faster and better-looking. ZEKE.
is slow and ugly.Saquon beats ZEKE.
on both counts.and Zeke is out of the league!And faster and better-looking. ZEKE.
Saquon beats ZEKE.
You talk from an ownership perspective and all along I've been talking from the players perspective. It is what it is. The Giants are going to suck either way. They have a mid QB and washed up WR's. Their TE and RB are the only reason to watch. It's clear they are going to be the 3rd best team in NY state.
Just think if the NYG did this, they could sign 3 veteran OL looking for work, for the price of the franchise tag. We will see.
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Don't be surprised if the Raiders eventually yank Josh Jacobs's franchise tag
The NFL's leading rusher in 2022 could still be on the move.
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Sluggo, that $78M wouldn’t count against the cap if not guaranteed. The Giants would cut him after year 2 and save the $78M. It would be imaginary for this exercise.
I am not so sure about that Then why do people get in cap jail??
I don’t think the guarantee is the big trigger, it is how much has already been paid in a signing bonus. That is what needs to be accounted for. So if none of the $78 is part of a signing bonus, I think there is no cap hit if he’s released.
the simply reality is, only money that is truly guaranteed is what is in your pocket as signing bonus.
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Maybe the Giants will just put 11 offensive linemen on the field at the same time to make you happy.Just think if the NYG did this, they could sign 3 veteran OL looking for work, for the price of the franchise tag. We will see.
Don't be surprised if the Raiders eventually yank Josh Jacobs's franchise tag
The NFL's leading rusher in 2022 could still be on the move.
Why would the Giants sign more offensive linemen when their skilled offensive players outside of Barkley and Waller are a clown show?
Protect Jones, “The Franchise”? The Giants are putting all their eggs in his basket.
Giants add Robinson to backfield, sign Beasley
With the Giants in limbo over the status of starting running back Saquon Barkley, the team signed James Robinson along with veteran receiver Cole Beasley.
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The signing bonus would count toward the $22 million guaranteed. Anything beyond that could be wiped out by cutting the guy after year 2.
OK this may sound silly but isn't this some kind of silliness anyways ? Saquan and the Giants come up with an agreement if he gets injured or suks ....... he doesn't get the $$$. If he hits some sort of benchmark he gets the $$$.
Well as soon as he signs the paper he is guaranteed the $10 mil + no matter what
What is the deal worth if he signs it just before the point of no return that makes him '23 ineligible? $10 million divided up over 17 games, multiplied by the ones he plays?
Yes but he wouldn’t do that he’d sign right before 2023 would become a countable yr for service. Which I believe is w 7 games left. If he did that n got hurt it would be a countable yr
And perhaps we r saying the same thing
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I think we are. I know there is a deadline for it to be a counted year, but I'm just verifying how much of the $10 mil he gets if he waits until the deadline. Is the money strictly divided up per game on these deals?
His best leverage is to play the minimum # of games he has to. That way, he still gets paid, and still gets a service year. Additionally, if the Giants stink without him and do better with him, he's proving his point. If the Giants can win without him, Barkley loses that leverage. Regardless, if it's strictly about money invested in a RB, a trade would be the best.
The reality his best leverage is to sign the tender come into camp and prove himself indispensable. Have the fans pressure the team. Have the Giants win a playoff game or 2
You can buy a lot of books with 10 million.“AFTER THE SAQUON NEWS, IF I’M A TOP HIGH SCHOOL RUNNING BACK, I’M HITTING THE BOOKS HARD.”
Agree. I think that SB and the other running backs have a legitimate gripe but the free market rules. Always has, always will. The Giants could have handled the whole issue with more respect and generosity, sure, but they decided not to, their choice, all’s fair. And the fact of the matter is that there are a ton of good backs out there. I think it’s in Saquon’s best interest to sign the tender.
I don’t think the Giants can trade him now because he hasn’t signed the tender offer. And I don’t think they’re allowed to make an obvious sign and trade with the franchise tender.
So they’re wed for the season for better or worse. I think Saquon stands to lose quite a bit by holding out. Jacobs too. Just sign the tender, play the best you can, hope for good health and move on.
So they’re wed for the season for better or worse. I think Saquon stands to lose quite a bit by holding out. Jacobs too. Just sign the tender, play the best you can, hope for good health and move on.
He already did just that and it didn’t help. They made the playoffs and won a playoff game….neither would have happened without him.
He has no leverage. If I were advising him, I’d tell him to treat each year as if it’s his last. At that position, it very well could be at any time. Take the $10.1m and play. I’m not sure if you can do this, but maybe he could have had a play where he plays under the tag with the agreement that the Giants NOT franchise him after this year. So, he either gets a non tag contract after next year or he’s cut.
There is no way I’d advise him to sit out this year. He has limited chances to make $10m in a year given running back shelf life; no way should he bail on the chance this year.
He is indispensable. The Giant offense consists of giving the ball to 26 and then faking it to him and Jones keeping. They won't win 7 games without him.
Isn't that what he did in '22? What do you think happens in '24 if he plays great in '23? Tagged, again.
It’s unfortunate that college football is more of a free market than professional football….something wrong with that picture.But but but it's a free market.
NFL is the only one of the major leagues without fully guaranteed contracts. If I'm the NFLPA, I sit until that's changed. Zero reason for the most popular sport, with the most parity and best athletes, to pull this BS.
LOL. they are tried that more than once, it didnt happen. The last thing the NFL wants is guaranteed contracts, if they had that, there wouldnt be games on Sunday!
Why not? Baseball and basketball can do it. NFL has nearly double the revenue of the next closest US pro league (MLB has $10bn, NFL $18bn). It's the richest pro sports league in the world. Others aren't even close. I don't know why you're always on the side of billionaires, but with some determination this could get done.
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