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I ******* hope he can get these country club, travel team, oh, look at my lateral pass ******** to pull their ******* heads out of their asses and quit eating from the bag of marshmallows and start eating from the bag that fueled Secretariat to greatness.

It’s time to toughen up and play international soccer. You have Pulisic, build around him and make sure everyone else knows their days are numbered if they can’t put in a full 90 moving forward. Enough of Michael Bradley being the role model for these guys.

Thank you and rant over. Pirates losing, Tgar drinking, women's volleyball on deck, enjoyed grilled swordfish for dinner with grilled asparagus and grilled focaccia, time to chill but these guys have the Tgar goat until qualifying ends and they have something to brag about.……
 
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I’m sure many hate this start time…but it’s the first friendly I’ve been able to watch live over the last several. Good test tonight.
 
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Ugh, really a poor 45 minutes there. Aaronson was especially brutal. We’re giving the ball away at the slightest bit of pressure. And that’s when Mexico applies pressure, as we’re also giving it away before pressure arrives.
 
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Zendejas showing a little emotion makes him the man of the match for us…quite a low bar, but accurate IMO.
 

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We didn't have a single player out there tonight that could threaten Mexico offensively. Not 1. I guess that's what happens when you send the A Team home before playing your rival. What a joke!
 

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We didn't have a single player out there tonight that could threaten Mexico offensively. Not 1. I guess that's what happens when you send the A Team home before playing your rival. What a joke!
It's also a coach that knows what a friendly is to most big clubs.....a joke. It also wins favor with your most senior players and reduces the risk of injury. That was an audition for others to step up in the starters absence, they did not. Friendlies during the club season are a waste of time and resources, but a necessary evil. That was a match for people who aren't on the roster for 26 to step up and make a name for themselves in front a new HC, they didn't.
 

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It's also a coach that knows what a friendly is to most big clubs.....a joke. It also wins favor with your most senior players and reduces the risk of injury. That was an audition for others to step up in the starters absence, they did not. Friendlies during the club season are a waste of time and resources, but a necessary evil. That was a match for people who aren't on the roster for 26 to step up and make a name for themselves in front a new HC, they didn't.

Problem is we've been dominant against our rival for awhile now. They knew we were better and had overtaken them. Now after lastnight they have hope again after that dominating performance.

I understand what you're saying but I don't think Mexico was the right match to play without your best players.
 
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Problem is we've been dominant against our rival for awhile now. They knew we were better and had overtaken them. Now after lastnight they have hope again after that dominating performance.

I understand what you're saying but I don't think Mexico was the right match to play without your best players.
An out of cycle friendly that means nothing in the middle of the club season where some of your best players are already playing 2-3 times a week....zero issue with this at all. I remember the US fans crying when GB did the same thing and had his MLS guys out there for friendlies. If you needed a W last night to realize USA >>> Mexico that is fine, but I don't. That is a big time manager making friendly with big clubs for when he does actually need them. Someone who had to see his best players leave during a season and possibly get injured. Big picture....this means nothing at all.
 
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Problem is we've been dominant against our rival for awhile now. They knew we were better and had overtaken them. Now after lastnight they have hope again after that dominating performance.

I understand what you're saying but I don't think Mexico was the right match to play without your best players.
It was totally the best match available. It was early in the tenure of the new coach and gave him a benchmark for the depth or lack thereof with the National Team. He leaned or confirmed a lot last night about this ever evolving squad. He doesn’t have much to work with.
 

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An out of cycle friendly that means nothing...
The issue I see is that we don't have a whole lot of really competitive fixtures over the next 18 months to help us in moving forward...no WCQ, so a Gold Cup, some Nations League games (some of them against minnows), and then "out of cycle" friendlies. And there isn't a bigger friendly than one against our rival (especially on their soil). Our players mostly showed the emotion of a game that "means nothing", and that's a problem.
 

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The issue I see is that we don't have a whole lot of really competitive fixtures over the next 18 months to help us in moving forward...no WCQ, so a Gold Cup, some Nations League games (some of them against minnows), and then "out of cycle" friendlies. And there isn't a bigger friendly than one against our rival (especially on their soil). Our players mostly showed the emotion of a game that "means nothing", and that's a problem.
If this break was in the summer or not in the middle of the Euro Leagues, EUFA, EUROPA, and all other various league Cups all going on right now I could see being bothered by it, but that isn't the case.

The players in Europe are already complaining (not saying US players, but the pool of players in Europe) about too many matches and Poch understands this so maybe this was more for his players than people online or upset because the US lost a useless friendly with their B team? If people want to be bothered by it, by all means have at it. I chalk it up to a new HC doing right by the core of his future leaders on the team and their clubs. This is a longer term move IMO by Poch as there are times the clubs push back on players coming back. I was actually surprised that some of them were even called back for this window, but a new HC is there so there is that. This was more of a meet and greet for some of the players on that squad who will be there.
 
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If this break was in the summer or not in the middle of the Euro Leagues, EUFA, EUROPA, and all other various league Cups all going on right now I could see being bothered by it, but that isn't the case.

The players in Europe are already complaining (not saying US players, but the pool of players in Europe) about too many matches and Poch understands this so maybe this was more for his players than people online or upset because the US lost a useless friendly with their B team? If people want to be bothered by it, by all means have at it. I chalk it up to a new HC doing right by the core of his future leaders on the team and their clubs. This is a longer term move IMO by Poch as there are times the clubs push back on players coming back. I was actually surprised that some of them were even called back for this window, but a new HC is there so there is that.
The International calendar sucks right now, and it's only getting worse. But if we're trying to avoid guys in the middle of Euro Leagues, Cups, etc, then the summer is the only time of year that we'd have our full team playing together, and that's clearly not enough. And even that will be in question next summer for the Gold Cup, as we don't know how strong of a roster we'll be able to field. It's water under the bridge at this point, but I hate that we were so uncompetitive in a game that could/should have been a good springboard for the future (especially when our opponent did take it pretty seriously).
 
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The International calendar sucks right now, and it's only getting worse. But if we're trying to avoid guys in the middle of Euro Leagues, Cups, etc, then the summer is the only time of year that we'd have our full team playing together, and that's clearly not enough. And even that will be in question next summer for the Gold Cup, as we don't know how strong of a roster we'll be able to field. It's water under the bridge at this point, but I hate that we were so uncompetitive in a game that could/should have been a good springboard for the future (especially when our opponent did take it pretty seriously).
IMO that game will have zero impact on anything beyond that game. If Poch thought it would he wouldn't have told his stars to head back to their clubs. He understands the stress their bodies are already under.

Even in Europe where the Nations League is going on you saw players pass on this window with just nagging injuries. The Nations league BS needs to go away and friendly windows like this one during the season for the Eruo players just suck. 10 hour commercial flights for scrimmages against hacking teams. Like I said Poch did their club teams a solid as well as those players....good on him. He has his eyes on the future in more ways than one.
 
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IMO that game will have zero impact on anything beyond that game. If Poch thought it would he wouldn't have told his stars to head back to their clubs. He understands the stress their bodies are already under.

Even in Europe where the Nations League is going on you saw players pass on this window with just nagging injuries. The Nations league BS needs to go away and friendly windows like this one during the season for the Eruo players just suck. 10 hour commercial flights for scrimmages against hacking teams. Like I said Poch did their club teams a solid as well as those players....good on him. He has his eyes on the future in more ways than one.
I also think, it’s important for him to actually witness what he has from top to bottom to choose from with personnel. One of my complaints with the former guy was who he selected, started and played versus who was sitting and watching. I believe Poch will be traveling some to see all available live and has available the scouting and video support he needs. he has to get on top of the squad quickly so as not to waste time. This was a smart move by this coach.

Keep it simple and keep it focused on who will be the horses. World Cups are won with Thoroughbreds, find out if there are any lurking previously under appreciated.
 
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I also think, it’s important for him to actually witness what he has from top to bottom to choose from with personnel. One of my complaints with the former guy was who he selected, started and played versus who was sitting and watching. I believe Poch will be traveling some to see all available live and has available the scouting and video support he needs. he has to get on top of the squad quickly so as not to waste time. This was a smart move by this coach.

Keep it simple and keep it focused on who will be the horses. World Cups are won with Thoroughbreds, find out if there are any lurking previously under appreciated.
Yeah. The 5 that left he knows what he has there so that freed up the roster for others to make an impression. The thing about being an international HC now is you have to play nice with the big clubs. Right or wrong you have to pick and choose your battles and a out of cycle friendly in the middle of the the league season is a no brainer to rest some players. Our Euro players didn't even come for cycles like this as even GB understood this part of the job. If this wasn't his debut I doubt they even get called back for this window. We played Mexico with B side before and even beat them in a Cup final with our B team. This idea wasn't something new.
 
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I am a bit surprised Cole Campbell wasn’t called up. Kid is only 18 and getting playing time in Dortmund. An argument could be made he could use time with the club, but would have been nice to see him out there.
 
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I am a bit surprised Cole Campbell wasn’t called up. Kid is only 18 and getting playing time in Dortmund. An argument could be made he could use time with the club, but would have been nice to see him out there.

I agree. I think it's important to get young talent up with the team, so they can develop chemistry with the others and learn the system. Clearly he has the talent to play up.
 

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Interesting match on Thursday. I think it will be the first time Mason Greenwood suits up for Jamaica possibly after his falling out in the UK.
Pretty sure that his England/Jamaica stuff needs to still be sorted out, so he won't be playing. He still needs to be approved for the one-time switch.
 
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Pretty sure that his England/Jamaica stuff needs to still be sorted out, so he won't be playing. He still needs to be approved for the one-time switch.
Thanks. I know he had made the choice a while back. When he does get there they have him and Antonio. Pretty decent attacking guys for Concacaf competition.
 

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Interested to see how Tessman fits in tonight…generally like this squad tonight (but recording and watching after Skins/Eagles game tonight).
 

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All kidding aside, my son’s u13 team plays on better field conditions than we do in so many of these CONCACAF road games. It’s shameful that Jamaica gives us those conditions tonight.

Not pretty, but did what we needed to do.
 
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