Who are "WE"?

[MacNit]

Agree. I also don’t understand the obsession with putting the statue back up. The statue of a man who claimed to never want it in the first place. Is that to honor him? Or pacify those that are clamoring for it?

That is not what people are asking for…but it would be a small part of the process.

 

[MacNit]

Did I miss something? What precipitated this conversation? Why on a random Thursday in February are some getting out the pitchforks and torches to avenge Joe’s mistreatment? Why do some conjure up this rage every few weeks to months and profess it all here? If the university put the statue back up and issued a public apology, would those that claim to be done with the university (yet come here to complain about all things PSU routinely) be satisfied? Would you open up your checkbooks and let all flow back to PSU? (If you ever did in the first place). I think I know the answer to that.

If you are all knowing, bet the lottery.

 

[MacNit]

Just curious. Do any of you know the Paterno family? Sue, Scott, Jay, or their sisters? Do any of you know them personally? If so, does the family feel they need an apology or recognition? Do they want the statue put back up? I’m not looking for heresay or rumor, but actual first hand knowledge.

Classy family (no surprise).

 

[MacNit]

Who the heck is we? Maybe I'm selfish, but I care a whole lot more about me.

I choose PSU, they didn't choose me. I paid for and got an education. After that, PSU owed me nothing, and I owed them the same.

I follow Penn State football because its good entertainment. Forty years ago, I'd have said the same thing about "Cheers".

Has the school really screwed up a lot of stuff over the years? Yep, Do I really care? Nope.

Will I watch PSU football next year? Yep. Did I mention its good entertainment.

The losing builds character too.

 

[Psumatt85]

Sometimes it seems that I am one of very few people who absolutely loathed the evil way that they treated Paterno, but yet fully recognize that:

• PSU is still my alma mater and the PSU football team is still my top rooting interest in any sport at any level.
• Coach Franklin was not involved in the above referenced evil and has elevated the program from the depths following such evil.
  • This even includes fighting an uphill battle for things that some have considered "silly", but which have been clearly demonstrated by specific instances in previous recruiting cycles to make a difference...CJF has been the leader pushing to "catch up" with top level programs.
  • CJF also still emphasizes values and education, about which all Penn Staters can be proud.
• Current players were not involved in the above referenced evil.
• Countless Paterno players support the current program.
• The Board of Trustees do no play football on Saturdays. Supporting the team has nothing to do with condoning or even overlooking previous BOT actions.
• The media who unfairly portrayed Paterno likewise does not play football on Saturdays. Let them be forced to report on Penn State football

Classy family (no surprise).

They are better people than me

 

[MacNit]

Does that not happen now? Does Franklin not hold the players accountable and challenge them to apply themselves as a college student?

School academics have plummeted. Team academic performance now near bottom of Big10.

But just like when we play a decent team, we talk a good game.

But oh those pesky results!

Sad.

 

[wbcbus]

You are We, and I hope you'll reconsider your position on giving and coming in for games.

My family has attended Penn State for over 100 years. I was born into it, and will always take pride in it. What "We" are isn't about any individual or group. It's about honesty, integrity, doing what is right in the face of adversity. I naively like to think that's who "We Are" and why we're proud. Some are upset about what was done to Paterno, and I'm with them. But there are hundreds of thousands of us embodying what I described, and I'm certainly not about to let some small group comprising the 2011 BOT dictate how I should feel about or support the school my family attended since before they were born. F them, they do not define Penn State, and IMO Joe would not have wanted them to have done the harm to the school they have through folks abandoning support, even if it was done in an attemp to support him.

 

[MacNit]

The German people have have more than bent over backwards to try and atone for what happened in Nazi past.

What has Penn State leadership done to try and address? Maintained expungement of Joe Paterno from the program.

And to add insult to injury, the things that Joe held dear: academics, playing the game with respect and dignity, and playing to win - all have plummeted.

 

[MacNit]

You are We, and I hope you'll reconsider your position on giving and coming in for games.

My family has attended Penn State for over 100 years. I was born into it, and will always take pride in it. What "We" are isn't about any individual or group. It's about honesty, integrity, doing what is right in the face of adversity. I naively like to think that's who "We Are" and why we're proud. Some are upset about what was done to Paterno, and I'm with them. But there are hundreds of thousands of us embodying what I described, and I'm certainly not about to let some small group comprising the 2011 BOT dictate how I should feel about or support the school my family attended since before they were born. F them, they do not define Penn State, and IMO Joe would not have wanted them to have done the harm to the school they have through folks abandoning support, even if it was done in an attemp to support him.

Those evil doers need to be purged from association with the University. Only then can those majority of good people unite.

 

[wbcbus]

Those evil doers need to be purged from association with the University. Only then can those majority of good people unite.

We are hundreds of thousands. If absolute purity is required, or you think it ever existed, then you can give up.

 

[slwlion01]

I haven't bought a licensed PSU/NCAA product since 2011 and never will again.

But, I have all the bobble heads. lol

 

[slwlion01]

For sure, Joe was one of the most important people in the history of the university. For sure, the BOT is garbage. But the university existed before Joe and it'll exist long after Joe. I never met the man but it seems to me he'd be uncomfortable with the notion that he's the university and the university is him.

I agree, Joe would have been uncomfortable, but his concept of student athletes and his unwavering strive for building young men and their values learned through the discipline of football was unique. "losing a game is heartbreaking, losing your sense of excellence or worth is a tragedy". I will always love the man and his values. Truly " the coach from Byzantium"

 

[JohnJumba]

I graduated from Penn State, and have two children who did as well.
But I haven't sent PSU a penny since they threw Joe under the bus, and never will again.
I root for the football team and I've been verbally supportive of the HC, but I don't write any checks to support them.
I watch on TV, and at 74 I doubt that I'll ever step foot into the Beav again.

Am I still "WE"?

what's your story? are you "WE"?

We are disgusted and ashamed of our coniving and self serving BoT.