Do any of his old Eagles staff join him w the Jags? Stoutland? Who would be a huge loss?
Anybody from the Colts??
Duce??
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Do any of his old Eagles staff join him w the Jags? Stoutland? Who would be a huge loss?
Anybody from the Colts??
Duce??
so who is the Texans pick?? it will take some ------ to pick either of the other 2 finalist. (GD auto correct thing on this site is a Pia)
7 HC hires so far. 6 offense, 1 defense
This has been the trend for years now. The defensive guys need to be exceptional like Dan Quinn coming out of Seattle.
Owners see KC, the LA teams and others win by dominating on offense. That’s entertainment value anymore. They all want to try to find the next Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan.
although I didn't like it at the time, it looks like the Birds made a good trade with Wentz- Colts will trade or release him by 3/18 according to Mort....
The Colts appear ready to cut bait on quarterback Carson Wentz.
Wentz will probably be traded or released by March 18, according to Chris Mortensen of ESPN.
he's better than a whole bunch currently playing QB in the NFL. although I think he's a little hard headed.
The Colts appear ready to cut bait on quarterback Carson Wentz.
Wentz will probably be traded or released by March 18, according to Chris Mortensen of ESPN.
he's better than a whole bunch currently playing QB in the NFL. although I think he's a little hard headed.
I'm happy for Vermeil ... meant to post this the other day.
Wow. Carson is still in free fall. This has turned out to be another wonderful trade for Roseman in hindsight.
It just goes to show that the buyer should beware when an NFL team gives up on a young, franchise QB after signing him to a big extension.
The same holds true with Goff and LA. No way LA wins a title with Goff at QB this year.
I can't imagine anyone trades for Wentz at this point. Maybe someone will grab him if he is released to be a stand-in while they groom a young draft pick.
Still can't believe Howie got a 1st rounder for him. Now let's hope he lets someone else make that 1st round pick.
If Washington picks up Wentz, I’m done with them, I swear to God.
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Funny, when thinking of teams that may be interested, Washington was the first to come to mind. However, I think it would actually be better to stick with Heinicke and draft someone.
OTOH Wentz is better right now then what
Steelers
Panthers
Browns
Texans (not including Watson)
Saints
Jets
Broncos
Buccaneers
have right now. Thats 25% of the league
Steelers
Panthers
Browns
Texans (not including Watson)
Saints
Jets
Broncos
Buccaneers
have right now. Thats 25% of the league
Right? Someone will sign Wentz. They’ll watch 2017 highlights and convince themselves they can fix him.
In the end, it’s a rare position. If you can sign him as a FA and for reasonable starter’s money (ex: $15M annually), then he’s a viable option for some teams.
I can’t either. His contract - for his production - is awful. I saw he’s owed $28 million this next season.
Indy will have to release him and eat about $15 million in cap money. It’s still worth it to move on.
Ballard will have a big black eye for this one, but better to bail early vs ruin multiple seasons trying to salvage Wentz.
It will also be interesting if more comes out about who drove the trade. Ex: was it Reich and does that now put him on the hot seat?
Someone will get him without a doubt. he's got too much physical talent. arm strength, scramble-ability (?).... someone will take a flyer on him. That said, if you (not you) don't look at howie and team a little better now, you're head is stuck in the sand. to drop himas quickly as they did after his big contract (yeah the contract was questionable in the first place but.....) numbers be damned AND to get a conditional and eventual first for him? i mean.... pretty masterful job of erasing Howie's mistake IMO. I'm not on the howie train, but pretty good business decision to drop him and get what he got. maybe took a little advantage of a previous coach on the opposite end having success with Wentz? a lot of advantage?
As I go down this route, i'll tell you I'm torn about the quick chop history from the birds. Trotter, McNabb, Sheppard, Brown, Cole.... FO had no issues recognizing decline and cutting or trading fan favorites, but then you have your Reily Coopers and Nate Gerry's of the world. So confusing...
his career certainly is a head scratcher. It seems like only yesterday (well, a few years ago) where the talk was that Wentz and Goff were the best young QBs in the league, and would be battling it out for NFC Championships for many years.
right? and I think 2017 will carry wentz for maybe 1 more season. But if he continues to have seasons like this past one, he's gonna be tainted for his career. Was the knee injury THAT bad for him? his last significant injury was in 2018 (back) so he's now gonna be 4 years removed. I just don't get how his career tanked so hard since the MVP talk in 17
yes, I'll edit my comment to say *Likely* someone will pick him up. However, I don't think teams will look at him for the long term answer. He may be relegated to stop gap at this point.
Agree on Roseman. I'm not a huge fan either, but I can acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses. Dude has made some good deals and put together a super bowl team. Has made some decent late round draft picks (and high 1st round), but his late 1st round picks have been poor. How he does in this draft and how addresses the QB situation in the coming years will be very important to his career.
The issue with Howie has never been about contracts and veteran roster management. Those are Howie’s hallmark skills that have carried him to a GM role. He’s very competent there.
The questions are on the college scouting and draft selection side (specifically high round misses). His front office org has found some diamonds, but there have been way too many high round misses in the past several years.
I have to give Howie some props on the original deal getting rid of Wentz. The Eagles received a 3rd round last year and received a conditional pick for this upcoming draft that wound up being a 1st round! All in all this sure looks like Howie got the better of this deal. Of course Howie has to not screw up these 1st round picks. He just might have set the Eagles up for a windfall that could be the cornerstone for a deep run in a year or two. Fingers crossed….
NBCSports Mock.
sports.yahoo.com
although Leal intrigues me, I think this might could be good. However instead of Dotson, maybe pick up a good FA veteran WR (Adams, Godwin, A-Rob, Beckham) and use the 19th pick on Nakobe Dean (this mock has him still available). Two freak athlete LBers and the successor to Kelce??? I mean... that's a big win right? Sure they need a DE or 2 but there is plenty of cap space, and this draft is DE DEEEEEEEP
2022 NFL Mock Draft: Eagles trade down, add LB and WR depth
Our latest 2022 NFL Mock Draft features some teams trading picks around in the first round, including the Eagles, as they search for the right guys. By Dan Roche
15. TRADE: Chargers (from Eagles, via Dolphins) – DeMarvin Leal, DT, Texas A&M
The Chargers’ run defense is one of the worst in the NFL, and they do a deal with the Eagles, jumping up two spots to grab Leal, who can line up anywhere along the formation and make an impact. For moving up two spots, the Chargers send the Eagles a third-round pick (#79).16. Eagles (via Colts) – Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
The Eagles have ignored the linebacker position for what seems like decades. That ends with the selection of Lloyd, an every-down player who shows very few weaknesses.17. Eagles (from Chargers) – Tyler Linderbaum, OL, Iowa
Howie Roseman loves to fortify his offensive line in the draft, and that tradition continues with this selection. Jason Kelce is seriously considering retirement, so the Birds need to be ready for life after the greatest center in team history.18. TRADE: Cardinals (from Saints) – David Ojabo, Edge, Michigan
The Cards move up five spots in the first round, sending Arizona a third-round pick (#87) to grab Ojabo, an athletic freak with a high ceiling, but very limited experience in organized football.19. Eagles – Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State
The Eagles upgrade their receiving corps with Dotson, a home run threat who really knows how to create separation. What he lacks in size (5’11”, 185), he more than makes up for in speed and elusiveness.although Leal intrigues me, I think this might could be good. However instead of Dotson, maybe pick up a good FA veteran WR (Adams, Godwin, A-Rob, Beckham) and use the 19th pick on Nakobe Dean (this mock has him still available). Two freak athlete LBers and the successor to Kelce??? I mean... that's a big win right? Sure they need a DE or 2 but there is plenty of cap space, and this draft is DE DEEEEEEEP
i just do not see the Eagles picking Dotson in that spot. As much as I liked his college performance….the Eagles need to spend 2 picks on D and that third pick on OL. The FA market is pretty good this year and the Eagles will be the Third best team under the cap. I think that they will pick up a veteran FA… WR to compliment their emerging star Devonta Smith.NBCSports Mock.
2022 NFL Mock Draft: Eagles trade down, add LB and WR depth
Our latest 2022 NFL Mock Draft features some teams trading picks around in the first round, including the Eagles, as they search for the right guys. By Dan Roche
15. TRADE: Chargers (from Eagles, via Dolphins) – DeMarvin Leal, DT, Texas A&M
The Chargers’ run defense is one of the worst in the NFL, and they do a deal with the Eagles, jumping up two spots to grab Leal, who can line up anywhere along the formation and make an impact. For moving up two spots, the Chargers send the Eagles a third-round pick (#79).
16. Eagles (via Colts) – Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
The Eagles have ignored the linebacker position for what seems like decades. That ends with the selection of Lloyd, an every-down player who shows very few weaknesses.
17. Eagles (from Chargers) – Tyler Linderbaum, OL, Iowa
Howie Roseman loves to fortify his offensive line in the draft, and that tradition continues with this selection. Jason Kelce is seriously considering retirement, so the Birds need to be ready for life after the greatest center in team history.
18. TRADE: Cardinals (from Saints) – David Ojabo, Edge, Michigan
The Cards move up five spots in the first round, sending Arizona a third-round pick (#87) to grab Ojabo, an athletic freak with a high ceiling, but very limited experience in organized football.
19. Eagles – Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State
The Eagles upgrade their receiving corps with Dotson, a home run threat who really knows how to create separation. What he lacks in size (5’11”, 185), he more than makes up for in speed and elusiveness.
although Leal intrigues me, I think this might could be good. However instead of Dotson, maybe pick up a good FA veteran WR (Adams, Godwin, A-Rob, Beckham) and use the 19th pick on Nakobe Dean (this mock has him still available). Two freak athlete LBers and the successor to Kelce??? I mean... that's a big win right? Sure they need a DE or 2 but there is plenty of cap space, and this draft is DE DEEEEEEEP
IMO no way the Eagles 'need' to pick an OL in the first 2 rounds. they have plenty with lots of depth. Need help elsewhere
I agreed with the idea all three first rounders should be used for defense but I've seen Linderbaum being mentioned as a successor to Kelce. JK is 34 years old and has floated the idea of retirement in the past. He's been a rock at center but if an heir apparent is available who can provide the same OL anchor for a decade after Kelce leaves, I say go for it.
I guess it depends on who you plan to put at RG. Ike could go there with linderbaum at C. I think it all depends on best available. mid-first round is one of those wierd positions where you're torn between need and best value. I wouldn't mind seeing linderbaum at C with Ike at RG and Driscoll eventually at RT when Lane retires. I've heard dickerson at C as well, but I think with the chemistry that Mailata and Dickerson has formed you don't touch that combo
I think a lot of the mentions of Linderbaum to the Birds is laziness by the folks doing the mock drafts. They hear the annual "will Kelce return or not" stories, and think it makes sense to take a C. But the Birds have so many needs that I don't think they can waste one of their #1 picks on someone that is unlikely to play much in 2022.
Seumalo went out in Week 3 with a Lisfranc injury to his foot. That forced Dickerson to step in at LG, and he put to rest many of the concerns folks had about him (mostly, his propensity to get injured). Dickerson looks to be the starting LG.
If Kelce does retire, most reports have Seumalo moving to C. If Kelce doesn't retire, then Seumalo likely moves to RG, and holds down that position until Kelce does retire.
Linderbaum is a nice prospect at C, but I hope the Birds go for a combo of best available athletes/position of most need, when making their picks. If they do that, I just don't see Linderbaum being picked by them. (At least, as I read the tea leaves at this time.)
While I agree mostly, I think there is a glaring hole at RG. Sure it was mostly patched this year but what's the long-term answer?
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