2021 Eagles Thread

[s1uggo72]

While I agree mostly, I think there is a glaring hole at RG. Sure it was mostly patched this year but what's the long-term answer?

Glaring hole at RG ?? If Kelce doesn’t retire they are at least 3 deep there. Ike, Jack Driscoll, Big Nate heck a boy named sue is good enough
Jack Driscoll is a very very good played if you can keep him out of the tub
I wonder if they could ever cross train Dillard? Here’s a #1 who lately had played better than most people give him credit

 

[nittanyfan333]

Glaring hole at RG ?? If Kelce doesn’t retire they are at least 3 deep there. Ike, Jack Driscoll, Big Nate heck a boy named sue is good enough
Jack Driscoll is a very very good played if you can keep him out of the tub
I wonder if they could ever cross train Dillard? Here’s a #1 who lately had played better than most people give him credit

You're thinking short term. Sure, if he doesn't retire they're fine. But if he does, there starts to be a lot of moving parts. Seumalo at center, then who at RG? Driscoll? then the following year when Lane retires who at RT? Dillard??? And a player like Linderbaum doesn't fall to you (middle first round) very often. He's a good blend of a value and need pick. Get him now, give him a year behind Kelce, and he's tailor made to step in when Kelce retires. Seumalo at RG now and after Kelce retires and Driscoll the understudy at RT. This way no players are moving around. Seems to me that when someone starts at one position then injury forces them to move to another and that happens once or twice aroudn the line, that's when you have issues with like 29297709205073 starting line combinations.

and Herbig scared me this year. I thougth he had a lot of potential but there were a few games where he was a turnstyle.

 

[s1uggo72]

You're thinking short term. Sure, if he doesn't retire they're fine. But if he does, there starts to be a lot of moving parts. Seumalo at center, then who at RG? Driscoll? then the following year when Lane retires who at RT? Dillard??? And a player like Linderbaum doesn't fall to you (middle first round) very often. He's a good blend of a value and need pick. Get him now, give him a year behind Kelce, and he's tailor made to step in when Kelce retires. Seumalo at RG now and after Kelce retires and Driscoll the understudy at RT. This way no players are moving around. Seems to me that when someone starts at one position then injury forces them to move to another and that happens once or twice aroudn the line, that's when you have issues with like 29297709205073 starting line combinations.

and Herbig scared me this year. I thougth he had a lot of potential but there were a few games where he was a turnstyle.

Short term? Is there any other way in the NFL?? Besides Lane Johnson is only 31, just about in this prime

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

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[nittanyfan333]

Short term? Is there any other way in the NFL?? Besides Lane Johnson is only 31, just about in this prime

Valid point about lane. He’s got a few years to go. Especially if he’s on the JP path.

 

[WestSideLion]

The article is a bit misleading. While it takes the best of what analysts said about Reagor, it doesn’t show that most of them pegged him as a 2nd or 3rd round “potential” guy.

Compare Reagor’s average draft projection with Justin Jefferson. My guess is it’s at least 25 or so slots lower on average.

 

[WestSideLion]

You're thinking short term. Sure, if he doesn't retire they're fine. But if he does, there starts to be a lot of moving parts. Seumalo at center, then who at RG? Driscoll? then the following year when Lane retires who at RT? Dillard??? And a player like Linderbaum doesn't fall to you (middle first round) very often. He's a good blend of a value and need pick. Get him now, give him a year behind Kelce, and he's tailor made to step in when Kelce retires. Seumalo at RG now and after Kelce retires and Driscoll the understudy at RT. This way no players are moving around. Seems to me that when someone starts at one position then injury forces them to move to another and that happens once or twice aroudn the line, that's when you have issues with like 29297709205073 starting line combinations.

and Herbig scared me this year. I thougth he had a lot of potential but there were a few games where he was a turnstyle.

I generally agree with this. You stay good by acquiring young depth on both lines. You really can’t have too much with injuries and the modern salary cap.

 

[s1uggo72]

I generally agree with this. You stay good by acquiring young depth on both lines. You really can’t have too much with injuries and the modern salary cap.

while I dont disagree with your thoughts in general, right now they have too many holes elsewhere that need to be filled. Right now, the OL and its depth is the least of their worries, imo.

 

[Grant Green]

i just do not see the Eagles picking Dotson in that spot. As much as I liked his college performance….the Eagles need to spend 2 picks on D and that third pick on OL. The FA market is pretty good this year and the Eagles will be the Third best team under the cap. I think that they will pick up a veteran FA… WR to compliment their emerging star Devonta Smith.

How about ARob for a FA WR? Seems like a nice compliment to Smith.

 

[Whart]

How about ARob for a FA WR? Seems like a nice compliment to Smith.

Howdy Grant……Assuming that ARob is healthy and has some gas left in the tank….would love to pair him with Smith. DS even said recently that he would very much welcome a veteran to work with.

 

[s1uggo72]

Duh!!!

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

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[Tom McAndrew]

an interesting take

 

[WestSideLion]

an interesting take

No doubt Howie pulled the strings on that piece. Or the Eagles did.

 

[LundyPSU]

How about ARob for a FA WR? Seems like a nice compliment to Smith.

Definitely need a veteran WR to add to the mix here. Can still add a WR later in the draft.

 

[s1uggo72]

the 3 R's of cap management, restructure, reduce, release.

 

[WestSideLion]

the 3 R's of cap management, restructure, reduce, release.

My only concern here is that pushing money into future years may not align with this team's young nucleus. For comparison sake, let's say I'm wrong about Hurts and he develops into viable NFL QB. 2022 is year #3 for him on a 4-year rookie deal. Do you really want to fidget with future cap years to shave a few million off of 2022 at the risk of shedding talent at the time you should be building around your newly-extended QB?

Now if they've already concluded that Hurts is Mr. Right Now vs. Mr. Right, then your strategy can change. But I suspect they extend Hargraves and let Slay and Cox sit as is.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[WestSideLion]

For the right money, why not? My only nitpick would be Sanders’ tendency to make mistakes or fumble the football.

But he’s very clearly a productive home run hitter out there.

 

[s1uggo72]

For the right money, why not? My only nitpick would be Sanders’ tendency to make mistakes or fumble the football.

But he’s very clearly a productive home run hitter out there.

Fumbles aren’t a nitpick, they are a big issue

 

[Whart]

Fumbles aren’t a nitpick, they are a big issue

Hey Sluggo….living in DFW I am hearing that the Cowboys will be dropping Amari Cooper as they attempt to cut expense. Assuming that’s true….would you add him to the Eagles and save a draft pick for other needs?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Hey Sluggo….living in DFW I am hearing that the Cowboys will be dropping Amari Cooper as they attempt to cut expense. Assuming that’s true….would you add him to the Eagles and save a draft pick for other needs?

They were kicking that around on WIP yesterday. I don't know what Cooper is like in the clubhouse. He certainly seems to do well on the field. If he will sign for a reasonable amount, I'd add him. I think the Birds would benefit from a veteran WR, as long as he's a good presence in the clubhouse and around the younger WRs, plus it allows the Birds to use one of their high draft picks at another area of need.

 

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I like it

 

[s1uggo72]

Hey Sluggo….living in DFW I am hearing that the Cowboys will be dropping Amari Cooper as they attempt to cut expense. Assuming that’s true….would you add him to the Eagles and save a draft pick for other needs?

I agree with what @TomMcAndrew says. Will he be a help to the young guys? Will he sign an un Alshon Jeffrey contract? if so, yes I would have an interest in him.

 

[Grant Green]

I would think you could get ARob or Godwin cheaper than Cooper. Hard to evaluate ARob after a subpar year with a new QB, but Godwin is a stud and 2 years younger. Brady loved him. If the Birds want to go cheaper, JuJu S may be a good deal after an injury year with a bad QB. Maybe Will Fuller.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I would think you could get ARob or Godwin cheaper than Cooper. Hard to evaluate ARob after a subpar year with a new QB, but Godwin is a stud and 2 years younger. Brady loved him. If the Birds want to go cheaper, JuJu S may be a good deal after an injury year with a bad QB. Maybe Will Fuller.

Despite the ACL injury, I don't think Godwin would be cheaper than Cooper.

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I also don't think ARob will be all that cheap.

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Eliot Shorr Parks was on WIP within the past hour, and indicated that the buzz he's hearing is that the Birds are more interested in spending on DE in the FA market than on WR. If he spoke about Cooper (or the others), I missed it while getting gas and a snack. However, he did tweet this out earlier today:




I have some doubts about Quez being a legitimate #2.

 

[Grant Green]

Despite the ACL injury, I don't think Godwin would be cheaper than Cooper.

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I also don't think ARob will be all that cheap.

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Eliot Shorr Parks was on WIP within the past hour, and indicated that the buzz he's hearing is that the Birds are more interested in spending on DE in the FA market than on WR. If he spoke about Cooper (or the others), I missed it while getting gas and a snack. However, he did tweet this out earlier today:




I have some doubts about Quez being a legitimate #2.

Well, good for our PSU boys if that is the case. I wasn't really counting on either and think JuJu is a more realistic possibility.

 

[s1uggo72]

if the Eagles want to take any or all 3 of those guys from UGA, I am in!

 

[nittanyfan333]

I have some doubts about Quez being a legitimate #2.

im intrigued by him. 43rec for 647 (15ish per avg), for 25 first downs. I think there’s a lot to be optimistic there. And this was with an O that didn’t have an identity for a few games, then went run heavy. Hurts seems to have chemistry with him and his speed is NOICE

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

if the Eagles want to take any or all 3 of those guys from UGA, I am in!

I'd be OK with it if they went with UGA and Bama guys in the 1st 2 rounds every year. Those programs are NFL prep schools unlike, say, TCU

 

[nittanyfan333]

I'd be OK with it if they went with UGA and Bama guys in the 1st 2 rounds every year. Those programs are NFL prep schools unlike, say, TCU

 

[LionJim]

I'd be OK with it if they went with UGA and Bama guys in the 1st 2 rounds every year. Those programs are NFL prep schools unlike, say, TCU

Lol, yeah, I’ve thought the same.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]