Are you done with Franklin?

[Nitt1300]

If one poster has over 20 posts in a single thread pretty much trying to make the same point over and over does that say to you that they have a point?

Or that seeking a good mental health professional just might be in order?

 

[ChandlerPearce58]

I’m just tiptoeing back in here after last night’s loss. I’ve read a few sentiments about canning the WR coach. I don’t disagree with that, but is the same being said about the QB coach? Allar has seemingly very correctable issues that seemed to get worse as the season went on.

I do not feel it is Hagans fault....and no we should not fire the QB coach since we do not have one....we have an analyst Danny O'Brien serving as the QB coach....and maybe that is why our QB's tend to regress instead of developing

 

[NoSoup4U]

No more NIL until Joe is properly honored.

Why do you think we are not currently at O$U level?

Aww snowflake is trying to make a point

 

[WVilleLion23]

Finebaum blamed Franklin.

Cannot stand him.

 

[Nitt1300]

Cannot stand him.

I could stand on his windpipe.

 

[psu0408]

It’s a frustrating trend that we always seem to be one position group away. For a while, it was the OL. This year, it was WR. Allar’s play aside, put OSU’s WR3 on this team and they beat ND rather easily.

 

[Catch1lion]

Better question is are you done with Hagans ?

 

[BobPSU92]

Better question is are you done with Hagans ?

Being in the company of the service academies is a good thing.

 

[dcf4psu]

Better question is are you done with Hagans ?

If Coach Hagans isn't replaced and replaced soon the Head Coach is going to have to explain why. Zero catches for -3 yards in a national semi-final game should never have happened and is embarrassing.

 

[BobPSU92]

If Coach Hagans isn't replaced and replaced soon the Head Coach is going to have to explain why. Zero catches for -3 yards in a national semi-final game should never have happened and is embarrassing.

Media member: James, what can you do to get production out of the wide receivers? Is it coaching, recruiting? What needs to change?

Franklin: I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding. OBVIOUSLY.

 

[FTLPSU]

Media member: James, what can you do to get production out of the wide receivers? Is it coaching, recruiting? What needs to change?

Franklin: I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding. OBVIOUSLY.

I think its a combination of things;

1. Lets start with the ingredients you have in the cupboard
   1. Design passing plays that fit your current personnel to make them and your Offense mildly successful
   2. If its running 4 WR sets and throwing screen passes to rack up Completions with low YPC so be it for now-lets do the basics
2. Hire a well known WR Coach with creds that prospective recruits want to play for and with the perception to get them to the NFL$$$$
   1. OSU's Hartline is probably the best WR Coach in the country-why they get 5*
   2. Need to coach up 3* to become 4* etc.
3. Over recruit the position as we have struck out the last few years
   1. I do think we have a disadvantage as State College isn't Columbus, Austin, LA etc.

Its a progression and it will not change overnight unfortunately....

 

[dcf4psu]

I think its a combination of things;

1. Lets start with the ingredients you have in the cupboard
   1. Design passing plays that fit your current personnel to make them and your Offense mildly successful
   2. If its running 4 WR sets and throwing screen passes to rack up Completions with low YPC so be it for now-lets do the basics
2. Hire a well known WR Coach with creds that prospective recruits want to play for and with the perception to get them to the NFL$$$$
   1. OSU's Hartline is probably the best WR Coach in the country-why they get 5*
   2. Need to coach up 3* to become 4* etc.
3. Over recruit the position as we have struck out the last few years
   1. I do think we have a disadvantage as State College isn't Columbus, Austin, LA etc.

Its a progression and it will not change overnight unfortunately....

But it sure did go from good to bad overnight.

 

[WVilleLion23]

I could stand on his windpipe.

And jump and down a few times as well

 

[WVilleLion23]

It would never happen, but pay OSU’s WR coach whatever it costs to have him join PSU staff as WR Coach and whatever other title he needs

 

[CbusLion]

He hired the WR coach and recruited the WRs. Heck he was supposedly a WR coach himself.

0 catches by WRs.

Yeah, he doing pretty damn well.

I agree that the WR room is a weakness. You think the head coach of a top program isn't doing well because the team has a weakness?

He also hired the new OC everybody loves, the DL coach, OL coach, safeties coach, CB coach, and recruited Tyler Warren and Abdul Carter and those OL and RBs. The team is very good, despite the WR weakness, and the program is in great shape and improving. Franklin is the top man, responsible for all of that.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

If Coach Hagans isn't replaced and replaced soon the Head Coach is going to have to explain why. Zero catches for -3 yards in a national semi-final game should never have happened and is embarrassing.

If you have no catches, how can you lose 3 yards?

 

[MacNit]

It does, absolutely.

I think the biggest divide between fans on this message board is between those who accept that we're an A-tier program, and are content with 10-2 being our ceiling, and people who want us to be an S-tier program and expect that we should be beating Ohio State and Michigan closer to 50% of the time instead of almost 0% of the time.

It's one thing to be simply overpowered by a superior opponent, as we were against Michigan the last two times we played them.

It's another thing to play a great game and lose as we did against USC in the 2017 Rose Bowl.

And it's quite another thing to lose because you just can't get your crap together, and you constantly trip over your own feet when the opposition is practically bending over for you. This would be the Ohio State and Notre Dame games from this year as well as many others.

That 2017 Rose Bowl should have been a win. We had a better team, generational RB, pro-level pass catching talent …but lost again. Could not make a single first down when it counted.

Looking back over the decade since, I guess it should not have been a surprise.

 

[MacNit]

Cannot stand him.

Not a fan either.

But how is he wrong?

 

[MacNit]

If Coach Hagans isn't replaced and replaced soon the Head Coach is going to have to explain why. Zero catches for -3 yards in a national semi-final game should never have happened and is embarrassing.

I am sure Coach Hagans has a wife and kids. Why pick on him?

 

[LB99]

Cannot stand him.

He’s jealous of the B1G. He ragged on Harbaugh too.

 

[MacNit]

I agree that the WR room is a weakness. You think the head coach of a top program isn't doing well because the team has a weakness?

He also hired the new OC everybody loves, the DL coach, OL coach, safeties coach, CB coach, and recruited Tyler Warren and Abdul Carter and those OL and RBs. The team is very good, despite the WR weakness, and the program is in great shape and improving. Franklin is the top man, responsible for all of that.

Fair point. But nothing above was good enough to win a single big game. 0-3 again this year.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

But he lost….again

I heard the someone online suggest he’s in the back half of the top 10 coaches, but every time someone ahead of him drops out of the list, someone else passes him and takes the other guy’s place. He never moves up so he perpetually stays in the back half of the list while others come and go in the spots ahead of him. That about sums it up.

 

[EPC FAN]

Talk about blue&white glasses.

Guys like you throw around firing people like you’re the . Are you going to put up the millions necessary to buy him out? As of Dec. the buyout is only $56,666,667.

Cannot stand him.

his forever go to “ fire the coach.” That dick with ears is a menace.

 

[MacNit]

I heard the someone online suggest he’s in the back half of the top 10 coaches, but every time someone ahead of him drops out of the list, someone else passes him and takes the other guy’s place. He never moves up so he perpetually stays in the back half of the list while others come and go in the spots ahead of him. That about sums it up.

I think a fairer assessment - looking at everything - is the back of the top 20.

Game day coach? Much lower.

 

[dcf4psu]

If you have no catches, how can you lose 3 yards?

He gained -3 yards on the last play of the game with all the laterals.

 

[dcf4psu]

I am sure Coach Hagans has a wife and kids. Why pick on him?

Because he isn't a good WR coach. What in the world does having a family do with it?

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

He gained -3 yards on the last play of the game with all the laterals.

Dude… I was having fun

 

[BobPSU92]

If you have no catches, how can you lose 3 yards?

They’re so bad, they lose yards standing on the sideline.

 

[psuro]

It's 100-18.

Was last night’s loss to nd the last straw?

 

[LaJollaCreek]

It's 100-18.

It's a loud 18 though.

 

[psuro]

It's a loud 18 though.

I wish this question would have been asked when PSU beat Boise. Curious what the result would have been.

 

[Catch1lion]

LT on the WR room issues . Interesting.

 

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[MacNit]

I wish this question would have been asked when PSU beat Boise. Curious what the result would have been.

Might Boise. lol

Saving it for a real triumph: Rutgers

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

I think a fairer assessment - looking at everything - is the back of the top 20.

Game day coach? Much lower.

Fair enough - the point is wherever you put him, he’s mired in that spot.

 

[MacNit]

Because he isn't a good WR coach. What in the world does having a family do with it?

Then why was he hired? Who hired him? Why not apply the same standard?

The buck stops with Hagans?

 

[kgilbert78]

Outside of beefing with students/fans in the stadium Franklin has never embarrassed Penn State. Good guy, good role model, good father, good husband.

Which is what we needed after Joe and BOB.

 

[kgilbert78]

If you have no catches, how can you lose 3 yards?

I was puzzled by that too. Might have been how they counted the lateral(s) on the last play.

 

[Big_O]

I’m done with ever thinking Big Game James will ever coach a team to a win over a highly ranked opponent where Penn State is an underdog. I have just come to expect a bad outcome every time to the point where I think in the future I am not going to waste my time watching such a game. At least with JoePa there was always hope. Did the JoePa teams always come through? No, but they did win enough over higher ranked opponents to know there was a chance. With CJF, No. Not a snowball’s chance at the equator in the midday sun.

 

[dcf4psu]

Then why was he hired? Who hired him? Why not apply the same standard?

The buck stops with Hagans?

He is the WR coach, so yes. If they keep him the buck stops with his boss.