Fire Franklin. Hire Rhule. I am sick of this

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Thank you. So, hiring someone who doesn’t have a buyout on their end would make the most sense. Urban Meyer is the guy.

Who knows? I wouldn’t think of buying Franklin out until about 2029 (maybe 2028). Maybe USC makes a run at him in two years if Riley doesn’t produce…
 

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Thank you. So, hiring someone who doesn’t have a buyout on their end would make the most sense. Urban Meyer is the guy.
Brian Johnson- either of them

 

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Who knows? I wouldn’t think of buying Franklin out until about 2029 (maybe 2028). Maybe USC makes a run at him in two years if Riley doesn’t produce…
Riley isn’t going to last long in LA if he doesn’t figure out that you have to play defense too. They’ll be painting fire Riley on the streets if he doesn’t. At 7-4, he’s stealing money right now.
 
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For all the good JF has done for the program (and I’m willing to give him due credit), he’s also grifted millions from the university via multiple manufactured media campaigns that vastly exaggerating the demand for his services. Incompetent leadership kept taking his bait, essentially guaranteeing he gets paid regardless of the quality of his work.

This is not the sort of “honor” we need in HV.
 
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It’s not all bad with Franklin. At least we know what we’re going to get. Leaves the stressing and guessing out of it.

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Truth. I went to another CFB game yesterday and just checked the score of the Penn State game periodically. After seeing how non-competitive we were against OSU despite the score, I knew that I didn’t need to watch the Michigan debacle.

In order for Penn State to compete against top teams, James Franklin needs to gain self-awareness and commit to being much better. I’m seeing no sign of that happening in the near term. It is too bad, because otherwise he had a real chance of becoming the first black coach to win a natty.
 

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I’m going to go to work on Monday and see if I can’t get me one of those buyout clauses.

W in T serious F!!!
 

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I'm thinking about visiting the "old board" and searching for posts abusing me for calling out Franklin shortly after he was hired. As is usual, I am being proven correct with the passage of time on my initial assessment despite the abuse I have taken in the course.

That's okay, I'm a resilient individual.
Obviously you're not married if you think you're right all the time.
 

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Penn State is so strapped for cash that there is no way they can buy out Franklin's contract.
 

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Penn State is so strapped for cash that there is no way they can buy out Franklin's contract.
A few could start a Gofund me for the buyout and be the first to put their money where their mouth is?
 

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Franklin might be a decent guy, but come on already! How many important winnable games are we going to lose? For a little less than $10 million per, I could coach this team to a 10-2 record!
No, you couldn’t.
 
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Franklin would've lost to Maryland with that Nebraska team too. You seem to be missing the point.
So posters want Franklin gone because he can’t win games where the other team has more talent, but they want to replace him with guys who can’t win games where the other team has more talent…got it.
 
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Jimbo caught lightning in a bottle at FSU one year and has laughed all the way to the bank since. He’s the most overrated coach in the country.
Bobby Bonilla says hold my beer.
 

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So posters want Franklin gone because he can’t win games where the other team has more talent, but they want to replace him with guys who can’t win games where the other team has more talent…got it.

Nobody has ever argued Franklin should win every single game where maybe PSU has the less talented team. But they shouldn't lose every, single, one, with the same boneheaded decisions, for years on end. 3-17 vs top 10, 1-12 in the past 7 years (snuck the one in where players opted out). Keep telling yourself that's fine and he's doing great.
 

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Nobody has ever argued Franklin should win every single game where maybe PSU has the less talented team. But they shouldn't lose every, single, one, with the same boneheaded decisions, for years on end. 3-17 vs top 10, 1-12 in the past 7 years (snuck the one in where players opted out). Keep telling yourself that's fine and he's doing great.
I’m not saying it’s fine and he’s doing great, but I at least try to be consistent. If I’m going to hold Franklin to a certain standard then I’m going to judge other coaches based on that standard.
 

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Since we don't have oil money to pay the buyout, maybe the old honey pot trap could work ?
Come on Kraft, get Krafty.
 

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Uh, yeah, I could. And you could, too, if you tried!
No, you couldn’t. Please tell me what credentials you have that show you could go 10-2 as the head coach of a division 1 program.
 

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I’m not saying it’s fine and he’s doing great, but I at least try to be consistent. If I’m going to hold Franklin to a certain standard then I’m going to judge other coaches based on that standard.

In year 10 of Rhule's tenure, if he still can't build the more talented roster, and he still loses every single time he plays a meaningful game, I'll agree with you.
 
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In year 10 of Rhule's tenure, if he still can't build the more talented roster, and he still loses every single time he plays a meaningful game, I'll agree with you.
His past history hasn’t shown that he can build a more talented roster.
 

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No, you couldn’t. Please tell me what credentials you have that show you could go 10-2 as the head coach of a division 1 program.
Come on, Luddy…not the credentials thing again. That’s so 2021.

But, yes, I could. Assuming, of course, I have the current staff at my disposal AND I’d do it for under $8 mill per.
 

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So posters want Franklin gone because he can’t win games where the other team has more talent, but they want to replace him with guys who can’t win games where the other team has more talent…got it.

Michigan and PSU are evenly matched talent-wise - at least on paper. In fact PSU has a higher blue chip ratio than Michigan. Difference is, IMO, better coaching/development at Michigan and they recruit better on the DL. Harbaugh for all his faults knows how to cultivate and maintain a team chemistry/identity.
 

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His past history hasn’t shown that he can build a more talented roster.

I look what he started with and where he took Temple in 4 years, then what he started with and where he took Baylor in 3 years and it seems he's pretty good at building a talented roster. Now, I also won't pretend I know how those Temple and Baylor teams compared to their opponents on the talent front those years, and he also seemed to lose his biggest games at Baylor, even in his best year. And it very well may be that he couldn't do any better than Franklin, I don't know. But I do know what Franklin's ceiling is, so I'm willing to try something else.
 
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