Up 14-0 on their own 19 against an opponent who was looking completely rattled offensively? I’ll bet you the Eagles would not have gone for it.
It’s not hindsight coaching when you disagreed with it before it happened.
Hey Franklin haters, is a playoff game a big game? Win or go home. Elimination. Season ends.
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It’s not hindsight coaching when you disagreed with it before it happened.
And to think it’s just “mindless traditional thinking” would be kind of mindless itself.
Texas, OSU, Oregon….#’s1-2-3 in recruiting rankings. I gotta beer says they are all in the top 3 of amount of $ to pay players. “College” football my ***!
When you’re right you’re right. Enjoy the success of your boys and how you and your wife shaped them; that is what it’s all about. Also, beating OSU. We’ll get there
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As my friend and I often say, people generally have a very poor understanding of probability (and tend to overrate "momentum").
I am a big fan of Franklin, but acknowledge he has made some head scratching decisions in the past, but he has largely avoided those decisions this season, I agree with your analysis on this decision though, the upside was so small, it wasn't worth the risk. Even if you convert, it's 1st and 10 on your own 20, so you still need to gain 55 yards to have a legit shot at FG range. Simply put, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
What I’m saying is hindsight coaching only works one way…..did this play keep them from winning the game? No, so in hindsight it wasn’t a bad call, so why are people still complaining about it?
Unless they marched down the field and scored like they did the following drive.
It doesn't. But
Which is pretty much what my original post said. I am by no means a “Franklin hater” and am happy that he largely avoided these kinds of calls this year. This was just an unnecessary risk.
I’m just discussing it. It was a bad call. It wasn’t a bad call because it didn’t work, it was a bad call because there was no need to take that risk in that spot. I mean, it’s Festivus! Are we supposed to share all our positive thoughts today?
But as you said, we won the game and I am most happy about that.
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I think the likelihood of having a short punt, plus the high likelihood of making the 4th and short (though they didn’t make it this particular time) were the key factors under consideration. I had no problem with Penn State going for it in that situation, even though it didn’t happen to work. I’m sure that SMU would have preferred to have PSU punt the ball before the play happened.
Elevated expectations should encourage fans to elevate their financial support of NIL. If you want to be the best, you have to spend like the best!
If you were tight ends coach at gettysburg just sayin. “I’m a coach“ has diff meanings based on which operation you coached tight ends at. I could walk on and be a volunteer Coach at Del state
You read this site? Some folks here care more about a stadium name or statue than actually winning. This site in particular may have the oldest group around and just last week one was bragging about how he won't give money just because Franklin is there. PSU's fanbase is disjointed and some care more about Franklin failing than PSU winning. PSU doesn't pay to compete against tOSU, UM, UGa, Oregon, and some others, but somehow some of the fans have that expectation because of 1986. It's odd, but I don't think PSU has had a loss outside of a top 5 team in 2 years and you have "fans" acting like PSU is a 6-6 team.
Possible, but unlike SMU, Bama is a program with great players who have been there and done that before.
No, you couldn't. But what you COULD do, is write a post asking everyone at which university you should be a volunteer coach, and then another post telling us how you are going to be a volunteer coach at this university ... only to tell us a few months later that you're going to be a volunteer coach at that university ... only to tell us a few months later that you're going to be a volunteer coach at that other university ... and so on, until we're years down the road and you've coached nowhere.
And, of course, your kids are pro laxers and you've coached them and others to many college and pro championships.
How hard could it be?
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If you show the team and players that level of disrespect even before you start, it’s too hard for you.How hard could it be?
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“Delaware State is running the moms1&2 defense”How hard could it be?
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“Cut and go deep at the hot tub.”
Maybe you should, then you’d at least have more of an appreciation of what Franklin and his staff go through.
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Would you hire as a coach someone whose attitude is “You suck so I can’t do all that much worse than the bozos you already have?”
Is anyone a Franklin hater? This seems to be a misinterpretation of valid criticisms. I think everyone wants to see CJF and this program succeed. Some of us are looking at hard data points regarding outcomes vs quality opponents and observing a less-than-encouraging trend. That’s not “hating” it’s analysis based on empirical evidence.
No, not everyone wants to see Franklin succeed.
It is if your are Marshall - no coach in the history of coaching has ever been wrong and if you never coached which includes pee wee and powder puff football it seems you are a moron and have no understanding of football whose complexity is equivalent to the splitting of the atom to some here.
If you worked for me and walked into my office with a "problem" that not all of the management staff even agreed was a problem and you offered no solution to the problem you were trying to convince me about, I can pretty much guarantee you that somebody would be getting fired.
Some fans insist on viewing fandom as a competitive sport unto itself. They seek validation through telling themselves and anyone who will listen, “I am a bigger and better fan than you! Than anyone!” Then they set arbitrary parameters that they believe prove their claims, ignoring the part where they’re meeting criteria they, themselves, have conjured in their own mind and deemed to be of worth.
The “No True Scotsman” fallacy is common among such fans. “You’re not a REAL Star Wars fan if you dislike any of the movies! I’m a better fan than you because I can’t tell the difference between a good movie and a poor one!”
“I’m a better Penn State fan than you because I refuse to criticize them under any circumstances!”
Some of this is just misguided: people conflate legitimate criticism with hatred all the time because they believe all criticism must come from a place of loathing, rather than from a place of genuine caring and a desire to see something improve and flourish.
But other people… this is all they have. They’ve made it their entire identity, so they NEED to constantly prove to themselves and everyone else that they’re the biggest and best fan in history.
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