This post begs the question, if you actually believed what you wrote, why would my opinions bother you to the point where they'd make you question your board participation?I know fun right? People are so f ing serious which makes me laugh. For example, I think 3-17 in real games is a terrible record, but it’s just my opinion. Others may find 3-17 v big boys a ok. Boom, 45 second exchange of opinion, on to the next
You think it is weird? That is your opinion... and it is wrong. It's perfectly normal.My car forums are so civil, schit here is weird. It’s weird.
You read this site? Some folks here care more about a stadium name or statue than actually winning. This site in particular may have the oldest group around and just last week one was bragging about how he won't give money just because Franklin is there. PSU's fanbase is disjointed and some care more about Franklin failing than PSU winning. PSU doesn't pay to compete against tOSU, UM, UGa, Oregon, and some others, but somehow some of the fans have that expectation because of 1986. It's odd, but I don't think PSU has had a loss outside of a top 5 team in 2 years and you have "fans" acting like PSU is a 6-6 team.
On Christmas Eve, why do you seemingly hate another board participant?This post begs the question, if you actually believed what you wrote, why would my opinions bother you to the point where they'd make you question your board participation?
I generally think it's not ok to let people gatekeep on being a fan, or inventing silly and arbitrary criteria to determine who gets to critique something.I can't believe this purposely divisive thread has garnered 216+ responses.
I'm thinking of going over to the old board to resurrect the MOAT.![]()
Why on earth would you ignore @LionJim. He's the most gracious and probably most likable person on this board. We should all strive to be more like him.I’ve had you ignore for months but still read all your stuff
because "the Rick" is an idiotWhy on earth would you ignore @LionJim. He's the most gracious and probably most likable person on this board. We should all strive to be more like him.
I will admit the old board has more sports discussion.I can't believe this purposely divisive thread has garnered 216+ responses.
I'm thinking of going over to the old board to resurrect the MOAT.![]()
I know, it's too bad that recruiting rankings weren't part of the playoff equation. I'm sure that will get fixed for next year.Isn’t Alabama sitting at home with three losses? How did that happen?
I know, it's too bad that recruiting rankings weren't part of the playoff equation. I'm sure that will get fixed for next year.
The face of the Statue movement sold his suite to SMU fans last weekend. Bet Joe would have loved that.one can care about winning and other aspects like the stadium or statue. They are not mutually exclusive.
so what suggestion to better unite different generations of the fan base? Brow beat them on a message board? Parade the they hate Franklin strawmen?
tell the boomers why they should invest in a program that refuses to recognize the life time they already invested? You see, they were contributing and building this program when you were in diapers. Maybe they don’t want to be part of the “culture problem” Penn State says they created and won’t refute.
Unfortunately for many on here, coaches aren’t pounding a nail, they’re building a house. They make hundreds of decisions in a game and they’re going to make so called mistakes when fans judge the decisions after the fact. And just because you watch a game doesn’t mean you’re qualified to spot mistakes….just decisions you might not agree with….that doesn’t make them mistakes.Gee I’m not a carpenter but I can pound a nail - I am not saying I am a coach but I can spot mistakes once in a while and even coaches will admit errors now and again.
Not getting to the playoffs for Franklin is considered not in the mix, so how is not getting to the top 2 for Paterno considered in the mix?Very well reasoned and rationale commentary.... are you sure you belong here?
Old timers will recall that through 1994 we were in the natty mix pretty much every 4 years since the late 1960s
After the 1982 national championship, people were by and large happy with that
I feel blessed to have been in college in 1986....what a season, especially after the disappointment of losing to those steroid boys from Norman, OK the year before
P4 teams are not the blue hens as much as you want them to be.3-17 is not ok. It’s a pattern of failure. Stacking wins against blue hens carry no weight
Yes because Joe the drywaller certainly has more knowledge than a D-1 football coach.Ah, yes. After your argument has been annihilated, then pivot to, "I wasn't trying to make a real argument!" then repeat your feeble insult because you know you look foolish.
Man, you're bad at this.
My dad didn't get paid for coaching my LIttle League team, but he was still the coach. A lot of coaches at the pre-HS level are unpaid volunteers. They're still coaches, as any player or parent will tell you.
I think that the problem is you're attempting to establish an absurd standard for which people are "allowed" to level criticism.
Just because someone isn't a paid professional in a particular vocation doesn't mean they don't possess expert-level knowledge of that subject.
4-17.3-17 is not ok. It’s a pattern of failure. Stacking wins against blue hens carry no weight
Not getting to the playoffs for Franklin is considered not in the mix, so how is not getting to the top 2 for Paterno considered in the mix?
I generally think it's not ok to let people gatekeep on being a fan, or inventing silly and arbitrary criteria to determine who gets to critique something.
Anyone can be a fan. This is how easy it is: "I like X." And that's it. That's the only qualification.
Some of us prefer a bit more in depth discussion and analysis, and part of that is criticism. People need to have it explained to them that this criticism isn't coming from a place of hatred because they obviously cannot figure this out for themselves.
My issue with lionjim is personal and none of your business.Exactly. If you have a problem with @LionJim, the problem is almost certainly you.
Go back to your prior username(s).On Christmas Eve, why do you seemingly hate another board participant?
It’s so unseasonal and non- Christian.
The Lord, who happens to have a birthday tomorrow, desires you to do better.
A wise man once said: If you have a problem with @LionJim, the problem is almost certainly you.My issue with lionjim is personal and none of your business.
Let me simplify it for you….the post said that Paternon was in the mix every three to four years….but he wasn’t in the mix other than a few times…you had to be in the top 2 to be “in the mix”.
My wife would like a word.A wise man once said: If you have a problem with @LionJim, the problem is almost certainly you.
Fifybecause "Coach the Rick" is an idiot
Is anyone a Franklin hater?
This seems to be a misinterpretation of valid criticisms.
I think everyone wants to see CJF and this program succeed.
Some of us are looking at hard data points regarding outcomes vs quality opponents and observing a less-than-encouraging trend. That’s not “hating” it’s analysis based on empirical evidence.
Nobody likes a math know it all8%?
I see why you hate lion Jim…,,
No one likes a math know it noneNobody likes a math know it all
Really? 4-17 is 19% not 8% geniusOk genius show me
He doesn’t know what “retired” means, or that the n-word is offensive … you think he’s going to be able to divide?No one likes a math know it none