4/17 is neither 19, nor 19%.
4/21, which is how you calculate the win-percentage of a 4-17 record, is 19%.
4/50, or a record of 4-46, is 8%.
Good lord, you’re a mess.
Hey Franklin haters, is a playoff game a big game? Win or go home. Elimination. Season ends.
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4/21, which is how you calculate the win-percentage of a 4-17 record, is 19%.
4/50, or a record of 4-46, is 8%.
Good lord, you’re a mess.
This reminds me of when I was driving my young kids to school one day years ago. True story. A car stopped at the light next to us and was wrapped in an ad for something called “Math Monkey”.
My daughter said, “Math Monkey? What’s that?”
Her older brother said, “That’s a monkey you can rent out to do your math homework. It can do addition, subtraction, and multiplication. But it doesn’t do long division”.
My daughter said, “Why doesn’t it do long division?”
Without missing a beat, my son said, “Think about it. Have you ever seen a monkey do long division?”
By some miracle, both of my kids turned into productive adults. But this is what I had to deal with.
My daughter said, “Math Monkey? What’s that?”
Her older brother said, “That’s a monkey you can rent out to do your math homework. It can do addition, subtraction, and multiplication. But it doesn’t do long division”.
My daughter said, “Why doesn’t it do long division?”
Without missing a beat, my son said, “Think about it. Have you ever seen a monkey do long division?”
By some miracle, both of my kids turned into productive adults. But this is what I had to deal with.
Is recognizing mistakes a skill? We deserve a coach who doesn't make mistakes. Thinking that a carpenter just pounds nails is a perfect analogy for those who feel they have an idea of what coaching division one football is all about.
Being a member of the BWICAC is not a distinction, it's a curse. Anyone can be a member by writing something akin to I deserve better!
Thankful for losing, I don’t get it. As for crying, I’m killing it here, are you?
Right now chilling on my new Christmas wraparound drinking tea chatting with my vw CA. I’m killing chilling.
I don't think it's quite that simple. PSU had 5 undefeated seasons and they finished ranked in the top 5 13 times under Joe. There were certainly off years but fans got used to the idea of being able to contend once every 4 or 5 years (except for the dark years 2000-2004).
Franklin still hasn't had a top 5 finish and 1-10 vs OSU is tough to swallow. He should finally get a top 5 finish if he beats Boise in the Fiesta Bowl. I think that would help his reputation. Winning 2 more games (ND or GA) would help even more because both of them are top 10 teams.
That's mostly true. PSU recruiting has been around 15th except for the 6th ranked class of 2022.
It's still difficult to get over the big 4th quarter leads vs OSU that ended with 1 pt losses. Same with USC in the Rose Bowl.
With that logic I can say I never made a mistake in my life - just decisions that were stupid but not a mistake because they just didn't work out. Coaches absulutely do make mistakes which litterally anyone can see- and all coaches worth a damn have admitted that afterwards including Franklin.
If by "losing" you mean being one of the most successful college programs in the nation ... yes, I'm thankful for that.
You can't even figure out how to retire successfully.
If by "it" you mean, "logic and sanity" ... yes, you're killing "it."
i Asked how you are going to provide benefits for your fam when you retire at 55 when you can’t get Medicaid until 65. I’ve received no ideas from you. Is your plan to hump until 65? That’s nuts.
We paid cash for STate, all in a bit under $400k (trips/living included etc). This was 2013-2019. You’re looking at Harvard and Stanford for 2 (+?) in 2027-2034 or so. if You can’t afford to pay that nut (guessing you can’t but don’t know) you probably haven’t thought about 55-65 benefits cause you’ll be humping til 65. Are you assuming we have 200k saved up, a big mortgage and 3 car payments and that’s why I work? Don’t be silly
English, mothereffer, do you speak it?
My situation isn't at all important. I'm covered.
I'm not sure how many times I can explain this to you, and mock you for it, before it sinks in ... if you're still working, you're not retired. Pretty simple, right? Even you, who can't do basic math or speak English, should be able to understand that.
You may have quit one job to take another job ... but that doesn't mean you're retired.
So why are you whining about not being able to afford basics, like medical care, when that has nothing to do with whether or not you're retired? That might explain WHY you're not retired (because you're not), but it's not relevant as to the determination of whether or not you ARE or ARE NOT retired.
No one cares about your stories about what you spent money on, what you're spending money on now, and what you plan to spend money on ... again, irrelevant. You work a full-time job now ... i.e., you're not retired. You work that full-time job now because you can't afford to be retired.
And you're a trash human who thinks it's cool to use the n-word. Go away.
Joe lost to Michigan 9 straight times and lost 9 out of 11 to Iowa at one point. Was that tough to swallow too?
Absolutely a tough stretch. Joe was 6-10 vs Michigan (38%). Franklin is 3-7 (30%).
Guess the Iowa stats don’t fit your agenda.
Also….did Joe have rogue members of the BOT consistently acting against the improvement and wellbeing of Penn State football? Nope. But here we are stuck with PS4RS that cries about a statue and votes against most projects that would benefit the football program.
Love that James is pulling this program into the 21st century kicking and screaming. Joe would be proud of how he's handled the program. Fans should be too.
Good grief! I started by pointing out that PSU went through a long stretch where they could make a run at a NC every 4 or 5 years and that's what a lot of fans are hoping we can get back to. After all we haven't had a top 5 finish in 19 years.
Somehow you turned it into an argument about how much better Franklin is than Paterno. Ugh!
P.S. Paterno was 12-11 vs Iowa. That lifetime record took a big hit as PSU lost 5 straight during the dark years 2000-2004.
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I know a lot of people that are retired from their careers that take jobs in retirement. I’m not sure what Couvosier’s personal situation is, but I don’t think it would be unique for him to be retired and still working another job.
People take part-time jobs doing much lesser/easier things, to keep themselves busy, or get a bit of pocket change. This guy still has a full-time job doing what he did for a living "before retiring," in order to cover basic living expenses he can't afford.
I honestly don’t give a **** about the petty back and forth you two are having. Honestly, I wish it (and now I) wasn’t gumming up the board. I was simply responding to one of your points. I’ll back out and let you two have at it.
Joe’s recruiting classes were much worse on average than Franklin. He didn’t make a recruiting trip his last six years or so. Didn’t even visit Pryor. Franklin is doing fine but he has a much better roster year to year than Paterno his last decade or so.
I was never part of the Joe must go crowd, but he should have retired in 2000.
Cool. It isn't really gumming up the boards ... this is a thread meant to create bickering. You'd be more excited to read the same "Franklin sucks" "don't criticize coaches" "Franklin's great" messages we've seen hundreds of times on this board?
Thinking that this is an 8% success rate is even less impressive. How many times are you going to post the exact same thing?
It would be one thing if he could show all of these coaches excelling in top 5 matches, but he cannot....because it's the exception to the rule. To be honest I don't think he is even aware of that because he just repeats what talking heads say. His idea of critical thinking is asking questions about a HOA...that is the extent of it.
I guess the question I would have is how many games against top opponents have we had under Franklin when were ranked somewhat close, like top 10 or so.
The only thing I know is the last 2 years he hasn't lost to anyone outside of the top 5. He's not a top 5 paid coach. PSU isn't in the top 10 for NIL overall and all of the post NIL recruiting classes are ranked lower than 10 which probably has something to do with the statue worshipers thinking they are showing everyone else something. So the answer to the question is are we being robbed currently with him as the HC or is he doing what/more than what's expected? IMO PSU is in a good spot overall healthwise, but PSU needs to take the next step in recruiting. tOSU, Oregon, Bama/SEC will outbid PSU for quite a few recruits. If PSU had tOSU's WR room this year, I think we would be the favorite for the MNC to be honest, but it's a big glaring hole.
I saw people on this site putting Fickel, Whittingham, Riley....and a ton of other coaches above him in terms of doing more with less. At this point PSU has fans who think we are MNC or bust(which is a good thing), but don't want to pay for that so they complain like it's the case. Bad coaches don't win all the games they are supposed to....no matter how badly people want to spin it. There is no perfect HC nor was their ever a perfect HC. Some programs don't just pretend they want to win....they actually go out and do it in the school and with the support. PSU has been dragged forward by JF with a portion of the fanbase kicking and screaming because like little children their idol got tarnished and they just want to cry about it and be heard. Just last week we had a bot bragging how the old guard is holding up their support from this program and coach...which is their right, but it doesn't mean they cannot be called out for it too.
People need to zoom out and realize where PSU is currently, not where they were in 1986.