How can anyone still support Fraud Franklin?

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So, we can look forward to playing in the bowl game for losers. With Franklin, we will not see the CFP. Maybe, they will expand to 64! Franklin is the most overpaid coach in all of sports. If he wants NIL supported, it should come out of his salary.
 

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All you have to do is change coaches. Signed USC, UTex, Auburn, A&M, UF, Miami, Neb, UW, FSU. The flip side is UGa with Richt and during his final years the SEC east was not the B1G East. UF was way down as was Tenn. He also ran into the SEC West buzzsaw every year. It worked out in the end for them but I don’t consider it apples to apples. LSU lost 8 or 9 straight to BAMA prior to that loaded team that steamrolled everyone. Maybe Coach O can come and fix this?
Yep it's just that easy....ask Nebraska too.
 

LaJollaCreek

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Cmon man, people would still about ***** about only finishing final four.
Basically it's MNC or bust....and bust just happened so you see the fall out. You're dead on about PSU making the final 4 and losing the semi and everyone being...well we did it, got there. That is just fine. It's hysterical to think that would be the case, talk about being out of touch, but hey Blue Hens 9-2 is always a decent fall back.
 

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Riley coached Oklahoma for five seasons, leading the Sooners to three College Football Playoff appearances. He left the Sooners for USC the day after they lost to rival Oklahoma State in November 2021.
I’m well aware of that. I’m also well aware that once he got to the playoffs they never won a NC and being that he is an offensive minded coach, his defense was frequently out of their league when they got there. It appears that that trend is continuing. What is your goal for PSU? Winning it all or just making the playoff? If you’re looking to just make the playoffs without actually winning it all, then the new format will quench your thirst because PSU will most likely make the playoffs in the next few years. In fact, if that new system was in place already, then Franklin and PSU would have most likely gotten in 5 times already.
 
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I’m well aware of that. I’m also well aware that once he got to the playoffs they never won a NC and being that he is an offensive minded coach, his defense was frequently out of their league when they got there. It appears that that trend is continuing. What is your goal for PSU? Winning it all or just making the playoff? If you’re looking to just make the playoffs without actually winning it all, then the new format will quench your thirst because PSU will most likely make the playoffs in the next few years. In fact, if that new system was in place already, then Franklin and PSU would have most likely gotten in 5 times already.
Many times I’ve shared my hopes for the program, in 4 year blocks
1 playoff appearance
1 season go to big ten championship game
1 season sweep big 2
1 season split big 2
Under no circumstances go 0-27 vs big 2
 

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I’m enjoying getting corrected by all the do gooders it makes me laugh
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LB99

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So, we can look forward to playing in the bowl game for losers. With Franklin, we will not see the CFP. Maybe, they will expand to 64! Franklin is the most overpaid coach in all of sports. If he wants NIL supported, it should come out of his salary.
I guess we won’t hear from you much when they make the round of 12 next year?
 
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Penn State won't find anyone who can do better.

Take a look at the top teams all times in wins (D-1A program with more wins than PSU).... and the records...

Michigan 10-16
Ohio State 14-24
Alabama 5-10
Texas 3-2
Notre Dame 9-9-1
Oklahoma 0-2

41- 63-1

PSU has never really been able to sustain sucess (or be even) against the programs that have won consistently... I would agree 1-9 against OSU is frusrtating, but CJF is no different than any other PSU coach against the top programs.
 
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Many times I’ve shared my hopes for the program, in 4 year blocks
1 playoff appearance
1 season go to big ten championship game
1 season sweep big 2
1 season split big 2
Under no circumstances go 0-27 vs big 2
So, your goal is to never win a NC? Just complain about everything else? Got it. Chronic complainer.
 
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More likely, Franklin will find a way to finish 13th!
Good one! He’d have already made the playoffs 5 times if the 12 team system was in place. But you would have found something else to complain about because that’s what people like you do.
 
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PSUJam

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Many times I’ve shared my hopes for the program, in 4 year blocks
1 playoff appearance
1 season go to big ten championship game
1 season sweep big 2
1 season split big 2
Under no circumstances go 0-27 vs big 2
We won't sweep or split your "big 2" between now and 2029 after this season because we don't play them both in the same season through 2028. First 9-2 then this? Stick to your Birds. Smh
 

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Questions to the knee jerking fire CJF crowd... if we beat UM in a few weeks are we good?

It’s always good to beat Michigan. And we’ve had more success against them recently than OSU. We’re not necessarily ‘bad’ this year (and without Harrison we might have beat OSU) but there are foundational issues in the program, under this leadership, that continue to show including terrible in-game decisions, a revolving door of offensive coaches, failure to sign elite talent at key positions, and the befuddling loss to an inferior team.

But yes, I’ll be happy. Harbaugh is out for blood though.
 
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It’s always good to beat Michigan. And we’ve had more success against them recently than OSU. We’re not necessarily ‘bad’ this year (and without Harrison we might have beat OSU) but there are foundational issues in the program, under this leadership, that continue to show including terrible in-game decisions, a revolving door of offensive coaches, failure to sign elite talent at key positions, and the befuddling loss to an inferior team.

But yes, I’ll be happy. Harbaugh is out for blood though.
Let's see if Harbaugh lasts until our game.
 
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Good one! He’d have already made the playoffs 5 times if the 12 team system was in place. But you would have found something else to complain about because that’s what people like you do.
In a 12-team playoff the objective moves to making the Final Four.
 

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Which is why he has won 11 games I guess


Fantastic. He wins 10 games in the regular season and wins a bowl game. 3 out of the 4 years he's won 11 games, the 11th was the bowl game. In the one other year, the 11th win was the conference title game.

Like Bill Parcells used to say, you are what your record says you are. James Franklin is a 10 win coach. If that's good enough for you, then that's fantastic. But just admit that it is. Don't go pretending that you care about national titles when you support a 10 win coach. The two things don't go together.
 

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Penn State won't find anyone who can do better.

Take a look at the top teams all times in wins (D-1A program with more wins than PSU).... and the records...

Michigan 10-16
Ohio State 14-24
Alabama 5-10
Texas 3-2
Notre Dame 9-9-1
Oklahoma 0-2

41- 63-1

PSU has never really been able to sustain sucess (or be even) against the programs that have won consistently... I would agree 1-9 against OSU is frusrtating, but CJF is no different than any other PSU coach against the top programs.
Not sure what argument you are trying to buttress, but - based on your hypothesis:

Pre-CJF:
37-49-1
43% Winning Percentage

CJF
4-15
21% Winning Percentage

Your data do not match your conclusion. Not even close, obviously.

LionJim, obviously, can check the math.




FWIW:
Other Big Ten Schools all time winning percentages against the Big2:
Michigan State 35%
Illinois 27%
Iowa 25%
Purdue 25%
Wisconsin 24%
Minnesota 21%
But PSU, under CJF, comes in ahead of Indiana and Northwestern's all-time records.

(Last 10 years only - limited number of games, obviously: Michigan State, Iowa, Wisconsin and Purdue with better percentages vs the Big2)
 
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Grant Green

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I'm good with that if the regular season record is 11-1.

And I'm not calling for him to be fired, but let's not pretend that he's an elite coach.
Ditto. Certainly not an elite coach, but probably on Dabo level. Like Dabo, he needs two really good coordinators (starting to doubt Yurcich) and a top flight QB (starting to doubt Allar is it). Those factors made Dabo look way better than he actually is. Franklin does great with 4 star players, but he needs to get 1 to 3 5-star players per season to compete with OSU. In the past two games vs OSU, I thought one player essentially made the difference in the game (Harrison this year, Tuimalao last year).
 
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