OK- So tell me who you're going to hire
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I had dinner last night with the former Chief General Counsel at Pitt and his wife. They’re old friends with my father-in-law.The question wasn’t who could afford him. It was who would want him given his record against Top 10/ranked teams.
The answer remains about 75-80 schools would take him in a heartbeat. How many of those are Power 5?. Probably more than you would think.
Now if the discussion is would Ole Miss drop Lane Kiffin or would Florida drop Billy Napier, that’s something different.
He felt that Franklin has done an outstanding job at PSU, but admitted that was from Pitt’s perspective looking up at us. He acknowledged that Pitt just doesn’t have the resources or infrastructure to compete without a Tony Dorsey or Dan Marino type of talent on the field.
I disagreed and it was a good conversation on expectations and what should be possible at Penn State. But the point is that there are other programs that see Franklin in a better light. Whether they can afford him and are appealing to him is another issue.
He wrote and helped approve Wannstadt’s contract at Pitt. I’m sure he wouldn’t wince at some of these figures.
I get that your an unhappy fan, but have you tried a pacifier?
I fail to see the automatic connection between criticism and entitlement. One does not equal the other.
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I'll bet "familiarity breeds contempt " applies to fans and coaches...in addition to explaining the high rate of divorce these days
It's not just Franklin he defends. Criticize any coach and you get the "not qualified to comment because you never coached" mantra.
I was at Purdue in week 1 last year and that game was sewn up if Purdue just burned clock in the 4th qtr. I noted here that I was thankful for Broehm staying pass happy and not burning clock and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I got the "Louisville paid him $X so nah nah nah nah nah nah" mantra. As though making boneheaded coaching decisions and making a lot of money are mutually exclusive.
So no, it's not just Franklin he defends. The macro view is that if you never coached your opinion is meaningless and shouldn't be shared on a discussion board. Group think must prevail. People (Sandy) paid him a lot so that validates unrequited love.
Many of us like JF and think he's a good man and a good spokesperson for the program, but not great on gameday in many instances. Appreciating his good attributes while enjoying discussing (on a discussion board) some of his not so good attributes are also not mutually exclusive.
So……Kyle and Brent fans….. where ya at????? Are they still geniuses?
Fans have access to the portal. I hate to see anyone unhappy over watching a college football team.
Here next season:
”Thanks to Franklin, we’re stuck with BobPSU92 when we could have had MacNit2.0. We deserve better.”
Where is bonehead now? Damn if his stupidity didn’t land him a king's ransom to coach at Louisville. Yesterday he won his 7th game which automatically adds a year to his 6 year deal. If he wins 3 more they add another year. You can interpret my responses as defending coaches. To be fair and accurate, you would understand that I'm pointing out that on game day, coaches make hundreds of calls and decisions. On the other side of the field, the same thing is happening . How can anyone after honest reflection not understand that there will be failure by one team?
Fan reaction...coach is an idiot. LOL
Coach who deserves criticism, Mario Cristobal. No defense for not taking a knee
That's an assertion that is also totally inaccurate. Coaching contracts must be approved by the board of trustees compensation committee.
Yep, he's a great guy and fine representative of The McAndrew Board. But he sucks as a game day poster. This is what we're up against.Here next season:
”Thanks to Franklin, we’re stuck with BobPSU92 when we could have had MacNit2.0. We deserve better.”
True. And the last time the BoT rejected a proposal by PSU's administration was when?
That clearly demonstrates the quality of the proposals put forward. Thorough risk analysis, vetting, evaluation of alternatives, etc., done up front such that the bot can give approval with the utmost confidence.
Criticism: we should run more screen plays. Entitlement: Franklin is never going to win us a national championship.
See the difference?
And yet when Devyn Ford scored a TD against UI a few yrs back and many were calling JF a bonehead for not taking a knee, your reaction was to defend Franklin.
Cristobal deserves criticism. Damned right.
But Devyn Ford should not have been given the opportunity to get caught up in the moment and score either.
At least be consistent.
Franklin is never going to win us a national championship because his fundamental offensive philosophy and high offensive staff turnover lead to inconsistent performances and lack of offensive identity which, to date, has proven ineffective against top conference opponents. He has not been able to consistently recruit top talent at key positions on the OL and DL and either can’t develop the battalion of 4* WRs on the roster, is misusing them, or they have been seriously overvalued by recruiting services. His poor in game play-calling, lack of situational awareness, and failure to understand basic clock management has led to unnecessary losses against inferior teams and is unlikely to change after 10 years. He is an otherwise upstanding, likable, hardworking guy who cares about his players and colleagues and would be a fine choice to maintain status quo.
Not sure it's turnover. Saban's Alabama has been where troubled coaches go to rehab their careers. And for the most part he seems to keep hands off and let them do their things.
I sense Franklin, who is an offense-first guy, meddles more than Saban, especially on the offensive side of the ball. If you were shown clips of PSU's offense vs OSU and clips of MY's offense at any of his prior stops, would you even think the same guy was running the offense?
This feels a little like Rahne's offense with Hack. There's only one common thread.
If someone believes we won't win a Natty because we don't call enough screen plays, is that criticism or entitlement?
Things that make ya go hmmm....
You not being able to figure out the difference…things that make you go hmmm.
Maybe it’s not Franklin that has a ceiling, maybe it’s Penn State (like most other schools in the country). He hasn’t lost to many inferior teams and none in the last year and a half yet we haven’t won a NC.
You have a high % of being correct Nostradamous. In 130 years PSU can rightly claim two...perhaps you wish to add 1911 and 12.
It's clearly Franklin holding PSU back.
WE DESERVE BETTER!
If the defense continues to falter, it will be because Franklin is meddling there as well.
No he shouldn't have. Because Ford shouldn't even had been on the field, unless in the deep back position in the victory formation.
Actually, I sense Franklin is way more into CEO-mode with the defense than the offense. He seemed to let Pry do his thing, and seems to be letting Manny do his.
And I give him credit for making a great hire with Manny. And apparently not meddling.
High risk high reward defenses give up big plays on occasion. Unfortunate that it happened twice in the same game.
He was instructed not to cross the goaline. As evidence you merely need to look at the video. Ford immediately looks to the bench knowing he had a brain fart. Regardless, it's not like the PSU D had to let Indiana drive the entire length of the field to score AND get credit for a 2 point conversion.
In any event it's telling that the BWICAC needs to go back 4 years to cry about a coaching mistake. The CAC should be focused on Maryland. It could be a bad matchup for you...but at least you might have something to cry about.
So bad coaching has a statute of limitations?
You (gasp) criticize Cristobal for not taking a knee. Yet deflect to a player's brainfart when it's noted that JF made the exact same strategic mistake.
Fire Franklin! His mistakes are unforgivable and unforgettable. The great thing about coaching is you get to make decisions...fans get to be
right. Why is that?Is this an attempt at serious argument? Probably, from a guy who had to coach football instead of having a real job of significance in industry.
The Franklin critics don't have one game to point to. They have ten years of terrible Franklin performances against top 10 teams and and ranked teams. Not mediocre, not bad, but awful results or worse. Franklin is a bottom feeder, padding his record against the B1G also rans, and failing regularly against them when they get any good. (See Minnesota, Michigan State, Iowa, Indiana) Oh, and toss in there a loss or two against teams like a Scott Frost coached Nebraska or a Maryland.
Do we deserve better? For $8.5 million we should be able to expect victories at least 30 or 40 percent of the time against ranked opponents. Is that too much to ask? I think that sets the mark pretty low.
If I needed a concrete contractor and a company had poor results 80 percent of the time they would not get a look at a contract. You Franklin supporters are ok with less than mediocre results. Your driveways must have cracks from your garage to the street.
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