D@mn straight! Nine more years! Cant’t wait until next year!!
OK- So tell me who you're going to hire
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Well eight more years! Fortunately, fans have always had the option of the portal.
But they still coach/manage. We all know that Franklin is the CEO and doesn’t know football. Why the charade on the sidelines?
if criticism from a message board doesn;t matter, then why should credit matter?
I’m confused as to the point you’re trying to make.
I said before the game that Ohio State was the more talented team. Nothing that I saw on Saturday changed my mind on that.
On offense, the line struggled to give Drew Allar time to throw and Penn State doesn’t have a single receiver on the roster who can consistently win one on one versus good defensive backs. Ohio State didn’t do anything that stood out as being exceptional. Their pass rush was simply too much for Penn State to handle. I thought that Penn State could have leaned into the running game a bit more, but that didn’t happen.
On defense, Penn State simply didn’t have an answer for Harrison Jr. Outside of him, Ohio State didn’t do anything particularly outstanding on offense. It was more attrition by the end. You cannot ask a defense to play as many snaps as they did and hold up for four quarters.
So it really did come down to the fact that Ohio State simply had better football players because nothing I saw from either staff convinced me that they’ll go down in the annals of college football history as legendary coaches.
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But they still coach/manage. We all know that Franklin is the CEO and doesn’t know football. Why the charade on the sidelines?
It's a good question. Let's ask this guy...
With regard to Georgia. I think that when people sit back and analyze this run they’ve had, they’re going to realize how much of an impact Todd Monken made on that program. He modernized their offense and won back to back titles with a walk on.
To be clear, Georgia has had the most talented roster in college football for three years running. I don’t know if they’re as dominant as they’ve been without Monken guiding the offense.
It's not fair to say he doesn't know football. He apparently just doesn't know as much as some who live here.But they still coach/manage. We all know that Franklin is the CEO and doesn’t know football. Why the charade on the sidelines?
I don't know why you're confused. Ohio State had better players and won. We agree. As far as coaching legends....LOL....I don't care and I doubt either HC cares. They have more money than they can count and it will be generations before anyone in their families worry about living the good life.
Oh they care. They care quite a bit. When you’re dealing with people at that level of any organization, you’re dealing with significant egos who are very conferenced with words like legacy and impact.
I disagree. I think they are self motivated and could care less what fanboys think. Their ego manifests itself in the paycheck. We're not talking about the days of JVP. Rockne likely loved Notre Dame. Franklin and Day, no doubt like their working conditions.....but they would be gone in a heartbeat if someone doubled their salaries. The same goes for the entire roster of both schools.
To the subject of the OP................................... Of all the coaches I have seen, Kyle Whittingham
A coach whom intrigues me is Kyle Kyle Whttingham. Hard nosed and disciplined .
A coach whom intrigues me is Kyle Kyle Whttingham. Hard nosed and disciplined .
Wins with inferior talent. Good pick.
He's done some really good things at Utah. Would be a pretty typical 1988 B1G offense. Would be interesting to see what he would do with a good QB and WR's.
But I don't think you get him out of Utah and I don't blame him.
I only listed teams that won every game- since losses are unacceptable.
No - when comparing eras, context is important. Big issue with Paterno is he racked up a ton of wins agains bad teams. But, he could also win when it mattered. The more structure added to football - conferences, conference championship games, etc. the less room you have to succeed. Losing to OSU and Michigan is the worst because they are our primary competition for B1G Championships and CFP appearances. Since everything pre-BCS was a subjective popularity contest, you could afford a loss if you could convince voters you simply had a bad game. Less the case now but does happen. To that end - two losses are unacceptable (in the current environment).
I can’t imagine the misery of some people if they demand absolute perfection in their daily lives and anything else is complete failure.
Failure to get 18 holes in 1 - quit golfing. Tiger and Jack and Arnie are losers! Bowl a 299 - you suck. Don’t catch a fish on every cast - pathetic. I can’t even imagine being the kid of some of these people. God forbid you don’t throw a perfect game on 27 pitches.
Absolutely ridiculous logic here.
Failure to get 18 holes in 1 - quit golfing. Tiger and Jack and Arnie are losers! Bowl a 299 - you suck. Don’t catch a fish on every cast - pathetic. I can’t even imagine being the kid of some of these people. God forbid you don’t throw a perfect game on 27 pitches.
Absolutely ridiculous logic here.
I think this dates back to when there were a number of player-coaches. Some guys like Connie Mack OTOH wore suits
And who have never spent a second on a football field coaching the sport!
Yeah, everyone knows you can't possibly tell if someone is doing a job well unless you've done it yourself. That's why both of you have done nothing but sing the praises of both Trump and Biden. I mean, both those guys know more about politics than you and have actually been President, so you can't possibly offer any criticism of them. Nor can you dare question your attorney if he misses a filing deadline and loses your case. You've never been an attorney and know less about the law, so just sit silently, you have no idea whether he/she did well or not. Your house fell over after it was built? Architect and Engineer must've done everything right, don't say a word, you aren't one.
Do you guys honestly believe it when you say things like this?
Every one of those examples has a significant personal impact in somebody’s life. If PSU football has that same level of impact on anybody’s life as these examples, I feel bad for them.
Has anybody remembered this is a GAME, played by KIDS in exchange for an EDUCATION? If winning every game, and in apparently an ‘impressive way’ is that crucial to someone’s happiness, and they aren’t on the team or in the program, ouch that’s gotta sting.
You just completely destroyed that strawman! Exactly zero people complaining are demanding perfection.
Franklin is 4-15 against OSU and UM with 1-9 against OSU (worse than Purdue, Michigan State, and Iowa in that stretch, so spare me the "nobody can beat them" talk). 3-16 against top 10 teams and 0-10 against them on the road.
Being disappointed with that is MILES away from "demanding perfection."
Hah, man you crush these strawmen, you did it again. Who is talking about their happiness in life? The outcome Saturday impacted my mood for about 10 minutes. I'm hardly frothing at the mouth here. Those guys' point was not that football is unimportant. It's that you can't criticize if you don't know more, or haven't done it yourself. That's what I responded to, because it's absurd.
It's fine to have an opinion, but some self realization of talking out your arse a little bit is also kind of required.
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It’s impacted you enough you come on here and complain and throw a fit for going on 4 days now….
“Throwing a fit.” It’s a message board, we’re both here posting messages.
Only one of us is complaining that the coach of a team of college kids isn’t good enough when 98% of other schools would bend over backwards to have the success he’s had at PSU for 10 years. I’m sure James loses sleep at night that wbcbus thinks he’s not good enough. You deserve better man!!!
Well, since I spent 3 decades coaching, and I regularly watch PSU football with 2 coaches who have had 70 years coaching football, I will listen to them. How many years did you coach? I am done with this ********. Btw… when did I sing the praises of a president?
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So praising that coach of a team of college kids on the board = great. Offering any criticism = throwing a fit.
Do you think I post here because I'm trying to really make James feel it? Or because I think I "deserve" anything? We're just on here discussing a sports team as fans, and for some reason that is unbearable to some of you. I guess it makes you feel better to create some weird idea in your mind of what anyone who disagrees with you is. It must just be some caricature of a frothing lunatic demanding 12-0 season or else his life is misery. No calm rational person could possibly just have a different opinion than you.
Whatever makes you feel better. It's clear that criticism of Franklin bothers you significantly more than his faults bother me.
No and No. But hey he had ties to Joe so let's mention him. It's seems like some want to put the program in reverse for some reason.
Kyle W is an interesting pick, but can he recruit in the northeast and mid atlantic? Didn't Franklin just beat him head to head soundly last year? If we're moving on from JF, that splash better be better then some of these names, but then again this is pure fiction and fantasy.I can't believe Matt R's name hasn't been mentioned yet or Al Golden.
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